China taking Philippine Islands

**ray_noel** · July 8th, 2021 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

we need more maritime patrol aircrafts even recon planes.

Recon planes Tapos mag cracrash during operation…

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**Yatta** · July 8th, 2021 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by dr. d

... the history of why the usa mothballed its vaunted f-14...

The USA did not mothball its F14s. They were all ground up to the last bolt so Iran would not have any part to use.

**dr. d** · July 8th, 2021 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Yatta

The USA did not mothball its F14s. They were all ground up to the last bolt so Iran would not have any part to use.

ah yes.
my bad.

**bloowolf** · July 8th, 2021 09:38 PM

Sunk: How China's Man-Made Islands Are Falling Apart and Sinking Into the Ocean | The National Interest

China using PH soil to build islands in WPS; probe sought - group | Global News

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**kisshmet** · July 8th, 2021 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by dr. d

... the history of why the usa mothballed its vaunted f-14...

Mothballed or retired?

F14 TOMCATS were retired and replaced by F18 hornets for the US navy

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**dr. d** · July 8th, 2021 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by kisshmet

Mothballed or retired?

F14 TOMCATS were retired and replaced by F18 hornets for the US navy

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from what i understand,
the usa may have retired their f-14s, but the latter did not retire to the retirement home, i.e., mothball center.
to prevent iran from getting spare parts from these retired planes to maintain iranian f-14s, the usa had them destroyed to very small pieces.
usa didn't want to have them or their allies, going up against iranian f-14s.

similarly,
some folks feel china won't provide us their planes, so's they won't have to fight these planes in the future.

**kisshmet** · July 8th, 2021 11:33 PM

^I thought the US navy retire plane models so they could replace it with something better that can destroy all lesser capable planes including the one they replace it with

That way they dont have to worry about their enemies acquiring spare parts for all the planes they have exported as they can simply blow it up in the sky with the more advanced planes they got

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**dr. d** · July 8th, 2021 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by kisshmet

^I thought the US navy retire plane models so they could replace it with something better that can destroy all lesser capable planes including the one they replace it with

That way they dont have to worry about their enemies acquiring spare parts for all the planes they have exported as they can simply blow it up in the sky with the more advanced planes they got

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you are correct, po.

the word "spite" was used by some writers, to explain why the usa destroyed the retired f-14s.
they say that the us didn't have to do it, for the reasons you mentioned above, but they did it, anyway.

**Yatta** · July 9th, 2021 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by kisshmet

Mothballed or retired?

F14 TOMCATS were retired and replaced by F18 hornets for the US navy

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Basically out of spite.

This is what happened to all the old US F-14 Tomcats - We Are The Mighty

There are a lot of Tomcats on display in museums and as gate guardians. But those are just empty shells.

**Wh1stl3r** · July 9th, 2021 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by bloowolf

Sunk: How China's Man-Made Islands Are Falling Apart and Sinking Into the Ocean | The National Interest

China using PH soil to build islands in WPS; probe sought - group | Global News

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Buti nga sa kanila. I don't know how those guys who sell our own soil to the enemy can sleep at night. Sabagay kung yung tao nga sa taas mahimbing ang tulog sa kulambo, paano pa kaya sila.

**Yatta** · July 12th, 2021 06:58 PM

Statement from the PRC Embassy Annex aka Malacanan

On Hague ruling anniversary, Palace claims fishermen lying about China aggression

President Rodrigo Duterte's spokesman said Filipino fishermen are lying when they say Chinese boats are hindering them from fishing in some parts of the West Philippine Sea, a body of water which lies within the country's exclusive economic zone.

**Devastator** · July 12th, 2021 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Yatta

Statement from the PRC Embassy Annex aka Malacanan

On Hague ruling anniversary, Palace claims fishermen lying about China aggression

President Rodrigo Duterte's spokesman said Filipino fishermen are lying when they say Chinese boats are hindering them from fishing in some parts of the West Philippine Sea, a body of water which lies within the country's exclusive economic zone.

Screwed by their own government.