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  1. Join Date
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    out of court settlement na lang para win-win hahaha

    pero honestly, budget/cheap airfare means cutting corners. yung mga pasahero sisi nang sisi sa cebu pac eh hindi naman secret na madaming reklamo jan, so bakit pa sila dun nag-book?

    tapos hindi din secret ang APEC. so dapat alam nila na malaki tsansang cancelled ang flights nila. kung alam nilang incompetent ang cebu pac, hindi nila aantayin na tawagan pa sila ng cebu pac para ipaalam na ganun ang sitwasyon.

    in short, you get what you pay for.

    ako, i still book cebu pac. pero sobrang baba ng expectations ko jan. i always expect delays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    out of court settlement na lang para win-win hahaha

    pero honestly, budget/cheap airfare means cutting corners. yung mga pasahero sisi nang sisi sa cebu pac eh hindi naman secret na madaming reklamo jan, so bakit pa sila dun nag-book?

    tapos hindi din secret ang APEC. so dapat alam nila na malaki tsansang cancelled ang flights nila. kung alam nilang incompetent ang cebu pac, hindi nila aantayin na tawagan pa sila ng cebu pac para ipaalam na ganun ang sitwasyon.

    in short, you get what you pay for.

    ako, i still book cebu pac. pero sobrang baba ng expectations ko jan. i always expect delays.
    Precisely!

    If you'll book at Cebupac at itatapat mo ng APEC sched mo? Eh gumising ka sa katotohanan na hindi smooth sailing ang byahe mo.

    Again you pay peanuts why expect a red carpet treatment?


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    out of court settlement na lang para win-win hahaha

    pero honestly, budget/cheap airfare means cutting corners. yung mga pasahero sisi nang sisi sa cebu pac eh hindi naman secret na madaming reklamo jan, so bakit pa sila dun nag-book?

    tapos hindi din secret ang APEC. so dapat alam nila na malaki tsansang cancelled ang flights nila. kung alam nilang incompetent ang cebu pac, hindi nila aantayin na tawagan pa sila ng cebu pac para ipaalam na ganun ang sitwasyon.

    in short, you get what you pay for.

    ako, i still book cebu pac. pero sobrang baba ng expectations ko jan. i always expect delays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    I think people are giving Atty Fortun too much attention. Like as if he actually won a major criminal case, other than being a media darling. Only thing Fortun was famous for is representing people like Erap...
    and the Ampatuans

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    That is why I don't understand why people keep on flying cebu pacific when they treat their customers like sh1t. They can't treat customers thar way just because they are a budget airline. I swore to myself I am never riding cebu pacific even for free. I won't patronize a company with no ethics..
    First mura, tsaka mo na iisipin if magka problema. And the mindset of "hindi naman mangyayari saken yan" kaya okay lang yan!

    Second limited airline choices if you're considering a budget for your travel.

    Piso sale? Book na! Hehe

    I flew with cebupac, never naman ako nahassle ng todo todo, same delayed flights gaya ng nararanasan ko sa PAL.

    May mga tao accepted na yung risks when flying with cebupac, nataon lang na si Fortun ang natsambahan, hopefully his move can change or improve how cebupac handle their business better.



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    It may also be pointed out that it is Cebu pacific's duty to provide assistance to atty fortun and his family and for that matter, any other passenger similarly inconvenienced due to delay in the completion of the transport. Therefore, its unilateral and voluntary act of providing monetary assistance is deemed part of its obligation as an air carrier especially when there is delay or cancelled flight. Surely, the defense and arguments of cebupac is that they are not in bad faith and the cancellation of flights is due to fortuitous event like apec but nevertheless, it is necessary on their part to practice extraordinaty diligence for the safety of its passenger and their baggage. hotel accommodations for the passengers should have done by cebupac instead of lip service without putting into reality. They are negligent and im confident that atty fortun will win this civil case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    They could have used the P10B budget to build a new convention center and new villas for the heads of states. Baka may sukli pa.
    A convention center was built for APEC at iloilo. Ano na balita roon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    A convention center was built for APEC at iloilo. Ano na balita roon?
    Natuloy naman. [emoji4]

    http://www.interaksyon.com/business/...in-iloilo-city


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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    A convention center was built for APEC at iloilo. Ano na balita roon?
    imageuploadedbytsikot-forums1448005529.871304.jpg

    Ot: It was constructed by hillmarc's construction corporation and funded by DAP which declared unconstitutional recently by the SC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tj_abs View Post
    imageuploadedbytsikot-forums1448005529.871304.jpg

    Ot: It was constructed by hillmarc's construction corporation and funded by DAP which declared unconstitutional recently by the SC.
    There are only certain provisions in DAP that are unconstitutional, not the whole DAP.

    And before SC declared it as such, it's not illegal. Now, if admin uses DAP again after decision then they should go to jail.

    I think SC even said all projects funded by DAP before the decision had presumption of regularity.


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    "Cebu Pacific Airlines, i am suing you. Itaga nyo sa bato. And i am doing this to teach you people a lesson.
    ×××
    "See you in court. Send your best, it ain’t gonna matter."

    did he backtrack?
    or the fight goes on?

    "For he who fights and runs away
    May live to fight another day;
    But he who is in battle slain
    Can never rise and fight again."

    fight attorney, and fight if you must, then die fighting, tis' where the courage of men tested

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    ^

    Either nasilipan ka na nila

    Or gawain mo din manilip.




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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    ^

    Either nasilipan ka na nila

    Or gawain mo din manilip.




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    Hindi mo naman maiwasan yan even during lfight itself, pag natingin ka sa kabilang row, sideview makita mo yun contours ng side breast. Accidentally naman coz san ka pa titingin sa cebu pacific, ni wala naman tv

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    mundo, andami mo pang satsat. ipayl mo na. patagataga ka pa sa bato dyan. you walk the talk. grandstanding amp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    mundo, andami mo pang satsat. ipayl mo na. patagataga ka pa sa bato dyan. you walk the talk. grandstanding amp.
    Na settled na out of court bro. Lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Na settled na out of court bro. Lol!
    yes bro. makes me wonder pila kahay nasapi sa tangkag. 😦

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    I read sa news that he's still abroad nauna lang family nya.
    Wait nalng tayo nextweek

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    I read sa news that he's still abroad nauna lang family nya.
    Wait nalng tayo nextweek

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    yes bro. makes me wonder pila kahay nasapi sa tangkag. 😦
    Naghinambog lang diay ang manghak. tsk, tsk, tsk.

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    "send your best, it ain't gonna matter" my ass!

    we're just but a tiny speck in the world of litigation. this guy didn't even brag--


    TOP LAWYER. The Philippines' lead counsel against China, Paul Reichler, has defended sovereign states for more than 25 years.


    MANILA, Philippines – In June 1986, a 38-year-old American lawyer defeated his homeland, the United States, in a landmark case that proved big countries cannot simply snub international rulings.

    Paul Reichler won this case for Nicaragua, a poor Latin American country that sued the US for funding rebels against a left-wing government.

    Nearly 3 decades later, he defends another small country against a rising superpower, in fact its third biggest trading partner.

    Reichler, called a "giant slayer," is the Philippines' chief counsel in its historic case against China over the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea).

    From July 7 to 13, he is leading a powerhouse team before an arbitral tribunal at The Hague, Netherlands, to defend the Philippines.

    "I will simply say that the entire legal team that has been engaged by the Philippines believes that the Philippines has a strong case, both on jurisdiction and on the merits," Reichler told Rappler in February 2014.

    He is now a partner at the 7-decade-old firm FoleyHoag in the US. He serves as co-chair of its International Litigation and Arbitration Department.

    Reichler rose to fame in 1984, only 11 years after he finished his law degree at Harvard Law School, cum laude, in 1973.

    Back then, he represented Nicaragua's government before the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in a historic case against the US.

    'US saved face'

    Nicaragua accused the US of funding the contra force to topple the Latin American country's Sandinista government. It also said the US placed mines in Nicaraguan ports or waters.

    The ICJ sided with Nicaragua because the US violated, among other things, "the principle of non-use of force."

    The court ordered the US to pay Nicaragua $370.2 million.

    The US refused to heed the ruling.

    Senior Associate Justice Antonio Carpio of the Philippine Supreme Court said Nicaragua, however, petitioned the United Nations (UN) to force the US to follow the ICJ. It also courted the support of other countries.

    It came to a point it "was costing the US tremendously in terms of reputation," Carpio told Rappler in an interview. "It claims to be the exponent, the number one advocate of the rule of law, yet it was glaringly in violation of international law. The world was telling the US, 'You violate international law.'"

    Carpio said the US eventually "gave Nicaragua half a billion dollars in economic aid." Nicaragua's president, on the other hand, requested the country's parliament "to repeal the law that required the US to pay the damages."

    "Eventually there was compliance, in a way that saved the face of the US," Carpio said.

    And Reichler was behind all these.

    'Largely unknown lawyer' but...

    In the 1980s, his role even merited profile stories.

    In December 1984, the Washington Post attributed to him one of Nicaragua's first victories. The ICJ had said it has jurisdiction over Nicaragua's case.

    "Nicaragua's preliminary victory over the United States in the World Court last week was engineered by a largely unknown Washington lawyer who left jobs at two prestigious law firms as he persisted in representing the Sandinista government," the Washington Post wrote.

    The New York Times (NYT), in February 1988, added that Reichler had been "a legal counselor for the Nicaraguan government since the beginning of the Sandinista days."

    In June 1988, NYT also said: "In the 9 years since the Sandinistas seized power, many Americans have come to their defense. But none has earned their confidence as fully as Mr Reichler, a 40-year-old graduate of Harvard Law School."

    Reichler said in an interview: "There is one issue that I feel strongly about as a matter of principle: that issue is the war the US has financed and directed against Nicaragua through the contras...For me above all as an American, this war has to be stopped. It is illegal, immoral, and contrary to the best interests of my country."

    "I think for the Reagan administration to flagrantly violate international law as it is doing in Nicaragua is not only wrong in itself but contrary to the best interests of the US. It squanders our moral authority as a world leader, and by weakening the system of international law it encourages other states to flout the law with impunity," he said.

    'Representing small countries'

    Since then, Reichler has been known for "representing small countries against big ones," the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) wrote in October 2013.

    In 2012, the lawyer also helped Nicaragua and Bangladesh in separate boundary disputes.

    "In a court, or before an arbitral tribunal, a small state that is weaker militarily, economically, commercially, has the opportunity at least to compete on equal terms with a much larger, more powerful state,” Reichler said as Manila sued Beijing.

    The WSJ asked Reichler in 2013 if his firm does not "worry about offending China" by lawyering for the Philippines.

    Reichler recounted their experience in previous cases.

    He said: "My FoleyHoag colleagues and I faced a choice: fight for justice, or avoid antagonizing the rich and powerful who could, if we cultivated them instead of suing them, become very profitable clients for the firm. Because we became lawyers to fight for justice, we have never hesitated in making these choices."

    Reichler became the Philippines' lawyer after Manila "conducted a global search," a high-placed Philippine official told WSJ. "We wanted the best."

    For one, the American Lawyer publication called him "Mr World Court," having been "counsel in 6 of the World Court's 15 pending cases."

    The Philippines' lawyer against China, the magazine said, "has carved out a unique practice as the giant slayer of public international law."

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    JM

    Love the post about Paul Riechler. 68yo will be a good rep for us pinoys.

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