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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    yung kasabay namin sa legoland kanina 18 sila sa group. they are suppose to go home tonight and they only found out 2 days ago that their return flight was cancelled. they are rebooked for saturday and sunday. they need to pay 2-3 extra hotel days. naghihimutok, bwisit daw na apec hehehe!

    their tickets were booked 2 months ago but cebpac only informed them of the cancellation of the return leg when they checked in. ogags talaga.

    OT. pangit legoland malaysia. don't bother, waste of money. for P2500 per pax there are a lot better options elsewhere.
    Its fine for kids, but definitely not for adults. Its freaking hot and theres nothing else nearby to see. If youre a foodie, maybe you'll enjoy the nearby food establishments but then its not the safest place to roam around for tourist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    yung kasabay namin sa legoland kanina 18 sila sa group. they are suppose to go home tonight and they only found out 2 days ago that their return flight was cancelled. they are rebooked for saturday and sunday. they need to pay 2-3 extra hotel days. naghihimutok, bwisit daw na apec hehehe!

    their tickets were booked 2 months ago but cebpac only informed them of the cancellation of the return leg when they checked in. ogags talaga.

    OT. pangit legoland malaysia. don't bother, waste of money. for P2500 per pax there are a lot better options elsewhere.
    I dont even bother to look st my friends FB photos when they post their trips sa Petronas and Legoland and Malaysia.

    I just dont see anything there interesting at all. have you seen Jaime Ride n Sekk episodes, dun pa lang makikita mo na how unintersting Malaysia is, sayang money

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    If ever, I wonder how he will present himself as a witness.

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    The staff claimed that we were sent an email on Nov 17, that the flight was canceld. We did not receive that email.
    It's a matter of he said, she said. If CebuPac can prove that an automated email was sent to passengers of the cancelled flight, then there's no case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty View Post
    If ever, I wonder how he will present himself as a witness.
    that would be very interesting to see him testify in the witness stand. generally, lawyers are bad witnesses. they tend to anticipate the questions and defensive, if not combative, in their answers. remember how kim henares (bir) and conchita carpio morales (ombudsman) testified during their cross examinations conducted by the late serafin cuevas.

    i testified once too. i read the transcript afterwards. i was ashamed at myself and swore never again.

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    OT

    You tried doing that atty?


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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
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    You tried doing that atty?


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    never had. even if i had, i never would. i'd engage a competent one to handle it. you'd lose your objectivity. you wouldn't see the case in the eyes of the judge. you become personally involve and that is dangerous to your case.

    BTT

    we had a korean client who filed a case against cebu pacific. that's why i know there's no cebu pacific listed in the SEC. part of their ploy.
    it is important to know the exact name and address of the company and its representative because the court process server or sheriff would not be hard put to look for it during the service of summons. if the summons is not properly served, the court will not acquire jurisdiction over the defendant. if the court does not acquire jurisdiction over the defendant, any decision against the latter will be void.

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    I see him sometimes in the Church in BF Almanza. I heard he is a very active parishioner there. He is actually a very nice fella. Just put yourself in his shoes. He is very, very pissed. Cebu Pacific could've made the announcement in their webpage about the situation in Manila, for one. & I have never heard of a Filipino airline booking passengers in hotels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    I see him sometimes in the Church in BF Almanza. I heard he is a very active parishioner there. He is actually a very nice fella. Just put yourself in his shoes. He is very, very pissed. Cebu Pacific could've made the announcement in their webpage about the situation in Manila, for one. & I have never heard of a Filipino airline booking passengers in hotels.
    i heard from the grapevine that his practice is not that prolific anymore unlike his older brother sigfrid's. anyhow, he is a very competent advocate. he cross-examined the former cpnp during erap's impeachment pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    i heard from the grapevine that his practice is not that prolific anymore unlike his older brother sigfrid's. anyhow, he is a very competent advocate. he cross-examined the former cpnp during erap's impeachment pretty well.
    I think he is more humble than Sigfrid. Sigfrid is married to a Remulla of Cavite, for one & you know how moneyed that family is (a Marcos crony). He also stays in BF Almanza, which is not like a Ayala Alabang. He probably has a team of lawyers or maybe Sigfrid will represent him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    I think he is more humble than Sigfrid. Sigfrid is married to a Remulla of Cavite, for one & you know how moneyed that family is (a Marcos crony). He also stays in BF Almanza, which is not like a Ayala Alabang. He probably has a team of lawyers or maybe Sigfrid will represent him?
    OT:

    had a chat with jonvic once when i was buying an xv for my wife at subaru alabang. i didn't know it was him. i was just checking the legacy and he happens to walk in and check it too. was just a casual conversation about the car and how good it looks in indigo blue. an SA approach him, he chat abit with her for like 10-15mins, he points to the car a few times then hes off.

    what strikes me is he doesnt have an alalay, bodyguard or a driver. for some prominent guy like him to roam around like that, he must have no enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    i heard from the grapevine that his practice is not that prolific anymore unlike his older brother sigfrid's. anyhow, he is a very competent advocate. he cross-examined the former cpnp during erap's impeachment pretty well.
    They had differences on how to run their law office. Kaya they decided that he just leave and open his own practice.


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    Yep anyone experienced being booked in a hotel by a LOCAL carrier due to delayed/cancelled flights?


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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Yep anyone experienced being booked in a hotel by a LOCAL carrier due to delayed/cancelled flights?


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    Few years back. PAL cancelled our flight to HK. Can't remember the reason. I'll post later, I'll ask my mom kung ano reason. They checked us in sa century Sheraton. Also owns by Lucia tan. With breakfast and shuttle service from and to airport.

    While it's not local but CX Ilan beses na ako nabigyan hotel sa HK. Plus HK$500/day allowance and 3-4 times na ako upgraded to business class ng CX, back in the '90s katakot-takok na cancelled flights ang PAL. Nakapila na kayo para sumakay tapos ma delayed or cancelled pa. Uupo na lang kayo Sa sahig dahil baka mawala pila

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    I think he jjust felt empowered dun sa video sa APec, wherein a Filiipino and his fellow Philmugger had an intense one on one question with a Malaysian Speaker na big investor sa Cebu Pac

    Hanapin nyo video na yun sa fb, parang no holds barred straight-talk

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    trivia:
    sometime in 1963, senator fernando lopez (who later was elected as vice president of the philippines in 1965 for second time, the first was during the time of elpidio quirino) reserved first class accommodations with Pan-American airline for the trip from Tokyo to San Franciso. however, for some reason, during the flight, their first class accommodations were relegated to a mere tourist class. they protested to no avail. later they filed a civil suit for damages against the airline. lopez was represented by atty. vicente j. francisco (lawyer of marcos during the nalundasan murder trial).

    after hearing, the trial court rendered a decision ordering pan-am to pay lopez:
    (a) P100,000.00 as moral damages;
    (b) P25,000.00 as attorney's fees

    on appeal (which reached all the way up to the Supreme Court), the high court, in its 1965 decision, modified the decision of the trial court and awarded lopez:
    (1) P200,000.00 as moral damages;
    (2) P50,000.00 as attorney's fees. (these amounts were huge at that time)

    the SC justified the increase in moral damages because senator lopez was then senate president pro tempore, and international carriers like pan-am should know the prestige of such an office.
    the lawyer's fee was also increased because of the professional standing of atty. francisco in the legal community.

    so, the moral of the story, to get a sizeable amount as damages from airline companies in case like this, you get the services of somebody like estelito mendoza or florentino feliciano, and, most of all, you better be a somebody, like vice president fernando lopez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    trivia:
    sometime in 1963, senator fernando lopez (who later was elected as vice president of the philippines in 1965 for second time, the first was during the time of elpidio quirino) reserved first class accommodations with Pan-American airline for the trip from Tokyo to San Franciso. however, for some reason, during the flight, their first class accommodations were relegated to a mere tourist class. they protested to no avail. later they filed a civil suit for damages against the airline. lopez was represented by atty. vicente j. francisco (lawyer of marcos during the nalundasan murder trial).

    after hearing, the trial court rendered a decision ordering pan-am to pay lopez:
    (a) P100,000.00 as moral damages;
    (b) P25,000.00 as attorney's fees

    on appeal (which reached all the way up to the Supreme Court), the high court, in its 1965 decision, modified the decision of the trial court and awarded lopez:
    (1) P200,000.00 as moral damages;
    (2) P50,000.00 as attorney's fees. (these amounts were huge at that time)

    the SC justified the increase in moral damages because senator lopez was then senate president pro tempore, and international carriers like pan-am should know the prestige of such an office.
    the lawyer's fee was also increased because of the professional standing of atty. francisco in the legal community.

    so, the moral of the story, to get a sizeable amount as damages from airline companies in case like this, you get the services of somebody like estelito mendoza or florentino feliciano, and, most of all, you better be a somebody, like vice president fernando lopez.
    Hindi ba kukuriputin ng cebu pac lawyer, like get a pro bono or something. Parang photographer, free exposure naxwalang bayad

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    Nag-update si Atty. Fortun sa fb nya ... na-book sila for the 1am Nov 20 flight ... nasa ere na sila siguro ngayon

    UPDATE RE: CEBU PACIFIC PROBLEM
    A lawyer-friend from Cebu Pacific called me at 6pm to inform me that the airline could fly me and my family back to Manila at the 1am flight this morning.
    nataranta yata cebupac

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinyo View Post
    Nag-update si Atty. Fortun sa fb nya ... na-book sila for the 1am Nov 20 flight ... nasa ere na sila siguro ngayon



    nataranta yata cebupac
    Pano naman yung ibang Pinoy that he claims awang awa sya? And the lesson that he promises to teach CebuPac? Threat lang pala para makauwi agad? 😕

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    JM

    Ano contents ng Airline Passenger Bill of Rights?

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