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    From the looks of it... the upper House will be dissolved. Good riddance.

    GMA agrees to 2007 elections
    By Paolo Romero
    The Philippine Star 11/02/2005

    President Arroyo has agreed to proposals to hold elections for a new parliamentary government in 2007 once a new Constitution is ratified next year by the people, a move that is seen to affect the remainder of her term until 2010.

    A ranking Malacañang official said the President made the commitment to former President Fidel Ramos and Speaker Jose de Venecia Jr. during a private meeting on Monday afternoon somewhere in Makati City.

    The official, who was privy to the meeting, said it was hastily arranged by De Venecia and was held shortly after the President landed at the Villamor Air Base from a visit to Davao City after 3 p.m. Instead of going to Malacañang, Mrs. Arroyo’s convoy proceeded directly to the meeting, the source said.

    "The President said she agreed to the holding of parliamentary elections in 2007 but the President would still finish her term until 2010," the official told The STAR on condition of anonymity.

    The leaders, the official said, agreed that the sooner a shift in the form of government is implemented, the more politically and economically stable the country would be.

    Ramos’ staff said the former president left yesterday morning for Taiwan. De Venecia could not be reached for comment as he is still in the provinces.

    A ranking administration official confirmed that the meeting took place and said other matters, including issues affecting the ruling Lakas-Christian Muslim Democrats, were also discussed.

    It was the first time that the President made a statement outlining a precise timetable for moves to amend the Constitution. She had previously skirted questions on cutting short her term by saying this is up to Congress to decide when it writes the transitory provisions.

    Mrs. Arroyo’s decision to agree to parliamentary elections would have implications on her powers in the remainder of her term as the new members of parliament would have to elect a prime minister as head of government.

    The move to have parliamentary elections in 2007 is a year longer than the timetable outlined by Ramos. His original proposal was to hold the elections by 2006 to give the embattled Mrs. Arroyo a "graceful exit."

    Ramos, chairman emeritus of the Lakas-CMD, has repeatedly warned Mrs. Arroyo — who continues to fight off calls for her to resign — against reneging on her campaign promise to push for Charter change and shift the present form of government to a parliamentary system.

    The President, who has survived an impeachment battle in Congress and remains the target of destabilization attempts by opposition members, repeatedly stressed there is an urgent need to change "the degenerated political system" that engenders destabilization and gridlocks between the Senate and the House of Representatives, and between the legislature and the executive branch.

    She earlier said such gridlocks cause delays in the passage of legislation. She also cited the recent hospital detention of National Security Adviser Norberto Gonzales by the Senate as another reason to shift to a parliamentary system.

    The President, in her State of the Nation Address last July 25, pushed for amendments to the Constitution through a constituent assembly where both houses of Congress would sit as one Charter-amending body.

    Last September, Mrs. Arroyo formed the 55-man Consultative Commission to assist Congress in amending the Constitution. The body is expected to come up with a draft constitution by the end of the year.

    De Venecia said the draft constitution would be ready for ratification by next year. He said senators who have terms until 2010 would automatically be members of the new parliament.
    Elections now, please

    Meanwhile, Senate Minority Leader Aquilino Pimentel Jr. pressed anew for the holding of a snap election and disputed the view of certain political quarters that the move would require an amendment to the Constitution.

    Snap elections can be held if both Mrs. Arroyo and Vice President Noli de Castro will heed the political opposition’s call for them to resign, he said.

    Pimentel claimed Mrs. Arroyo’s resignation would forestall a move by the public to resort to extrajudicial, possibly violent means of throwing her out of office.

    In case of an Arroyo-De Castro resignation, Pimentel said Senate President Franklin Drilon would immediately assume office as acting president and call a snap election in 45 days.

    "And therefore, the snap elections (are) the only feasible, constitutional and peaceful solution to the political crisis that has long been hounding our country," Pimentel said.

    He said he is not interested in putting out an opposition candidate, and pointed out that Mrs. Arroyo is barred from running in the snap elections because the Constitution prohibits the incumbent president from running for a second term.

    Mrs. Arroyo, who was elected vice president in 1998, assumed the presidency on Jan. 20, 2001 after then President Joseph Estrada was forced to step down in the aftermath of the EDSA People Power 2.

    "Since Noli is not covered by the prohibition, he can run for president," Pimentel said, adding that the snap election will give the people the opportunity to elect a new president who can effectively run the nation.

    He stressed that the snap election should be held immediately and not in 2007 as proposed by some Anti-Arroyo groups, particularly members of the so-called Black and White movement.

    "It is important that we should take this action in order to prevent further deterioration of the situation in the country, economically, socially and politically," Pimentel said.

    The snap election would also remove De Venecia and Ramos from the picture, according to Pimentel, who added that these two men should not be given a chance to maneuver and further prolong Mrs. Arroyo’s stay in power. — With Christina Mendez

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    Report sa radio pumayag nga daw siya sa election for parliamentary pero gusto pa din niya tapusin term niya hanggang 2010

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    sabi ko na nga ba si ICB ang unang mag-rereact dito eh.

    it could only be, IF, the amended constitution will take effect... otherwise, mukhang di uubra yan... OR;

    GMA herself, would dissolve both houses of congress, declare martial law, and call for a snap election, just like what Marcos did years back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy_gilmore
    GMA herself, would dissolve both houses of congress, declare martial law, and call for a snap election, just like what Marcos did years back.
    That is a very far fetched idea... please be informed of our consitution...

    Marcos is able to declare Martial Law without the approval of Congress since the 1935 Constitution doesn're require Legislative approval:

    (2) The President shall be commander-in-chief of all armed forces of the Philippines, and, whenever it becomes necessary, he may call out such armed forces to prevent or suppress lawless violence, invasion, insurrection, or rebellion. In case of invasion, insurrection, or rebellion or imminent danger thereof, when the public safety requires it, he may suspend the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus, or place the Philippines or any part thereof under Martial Law.
    For the 1973 Constitution, the Prime Minister can declare Martial Law:

    Section 12. The Prime Minister shall be commander-in-chief of all armed forces of the Philippines, and whenever it becomes necessary, he may call out such armed forces to prevent or suppress lawless violence, invasion, insurrection, or rebellion. In case of invasion, or rebellion, or imminent danger thereof when the public safety requires, it he may suspend the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus, or place the Philippines or any part thereof under martial law.
    For our current constitution... Congress needs to approve that:

    Section 18. The President shall be the Commander-in-Chief of all armed forces of the Philippines and whenever it becomes necessary, he may call out such armed forces to prevent or suppress lawless violence, invasion or rebellion. In case of invasion or rebellion, when the public safety requires it, he may, for a period not exceeding sixty days, suspend the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus or place the Philippines or any part thereof under martial law. Within forty-eight hours from the proclamation of martial law or the suspension of the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus, the President shall submit a report in person or in writing to the Congress. The Congress, voting jointly, by a vote of at least a majority of all its Members in regular or special session, may revoke such proclamation or suspension, which revocation shall not be set aside by the President. Upon the initiative of the President, the Congress may, in the same manner, extend such proclamation or suspension for a period to be determined by the Congress, if the invasion or rebellion shall persist and public safety requires it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy_gilmore
    sabi ko na nga ba si ICB ang unang mag-rereact dito eh.

    it could only be, IF, the amended constitution will take effect... otherwise, mukhang di uubra yan... OR;

    GMA herself, would dissolve both houses of congress, declare martial law, and call for a snap election, just like what Marcos did years back.


    Damage control lang yan kasi mahirap na kung pati si FVR bumaligtad na ng tuluyan.

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    mazda...mag lawyer ka na kaya!

    hahahahah

    good points..interesting ang nangyayari jan ah...hmmm

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    hilo na ako..

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    Diba sinabi nya di sya tatakbo for president 3 years ago? tado talaga mga politiko sa atin!

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    GMA's PR machine sucks...can't say the same for her political machine though. makapit pa sa tuko!

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    Mga kawatan!

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    nakow...

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    GMA has long been supporting the change to Parliamentary system even before the presidential elections, so cutting her term by 2007 is no big deal to her. She might even get re-elected "yet again" kung totoong marami pa ring sumosuporta sa kanya.

    Ang tanong: Who will be the Prime Minister?

    Jos kow pow, wag naman sanang si Joe De Venecia.

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    Boy Ferrari...

    Based on the reports... the Executive office will still hold court until 2010. Only the Legislative branch will be affected by this on 2007... namely the abolition of the upper House or to put it lightly, the consolidation of Congress into a single House.

    From this, you can deduce what their proposed "new" form of government will be... a President & Congress / Parliament will still be elected by the people... but a Prime Minisiter will be appointed / nominated by the Parliament. This will resemble closely Germany's form of government. The President will then be less powerful and be closely relegated to ceremonial functions "only". The President might still veto laws, represent the country abroad, be the commander-in-chief, etc. but the day-to-day running of the country will fall to laps of the Prime Minister.

    Though I have a strong feeling that JDV will be gunning for the PM position. He has enough political clout to gain a majority of Congress' vote. FVR can also make a comeback through this.

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    let's welcome change ... lagi naman sigaw ng lahat palpak sistema ng Pilipinas. eto may bago proposal sistema, either will work or not work ... but still there's hope.

    for those who will argue na eh d ganon nanaman, sila sila din mga pulitiko/congressman uupo dyan. hayaan na lang muna natin for the 1st few years.

    at least a new system is in effect, tayo mga kabataan susunod na makaayos nyan -> the efficient generation coz puro computer-literate na tayo. pag unicam na, di na natin kelangan mga senador na hinde mo maintindihan kung ano ba role nila sa Pilipinas. Kaya tumataas ang VAT, electricity, text, telecommunication dahil sa lukewarm approval nila ng laws. napipilitan mga negosyante tuloy ipasa sa tin yun mga pang-lagay nila sa mga senador na yan, add to fact, that they have bigger share of the pork barrel.

    pag may problema tayo, yun na lang representative ng lugar natin sa parliament ang kakausapin, d na nakakalito.

    simple lang naman dapat ang role ng gobyerno, to service the people. let's start from the basic. eliminate all redundant agencies, na kunwari pang counter-check ng ibang agency. pampalito lang and lalo pa magastos.

    sana nga sa susunod pang-merge ang 13 municipalities ng M.M, gawin na lang 6 municipalities na lang ang metro. parang maeliminate ang redundant mayors/v. mayors etc. damihan na lang councilors and kagawad. 6 mayors arguing in conference table with MMDA are better than having 13. saka dapat talaga wag-13, malas eh!
    Last edited by oldblue; November 2nd, 2005 at 06:44 PM.

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    Ano kaya kung maging Prime Minister si Miriam Defensor-Santiago? Ang lakas niyang sumipsip kay GMA lately eh, pansin nyo ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyFerrari
    Ano kaya kung maging Prime Minister si Miriam Defensor-Santiago? Ang lakas niyang sumipsip kay GMA lately eh, pansin nyo ba?

    Malamang! Yan ang sukli ng pag-sipsip niya kay GMA.

    He-he! Meron na tayong PM....... Praning Minister!

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    yun mga opposition di nila nakikita opportunity dito, field an opposition PM, then maintain an admin Pres. yan ang check and balance to the max hehehe

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    i'll only believe it when it happens ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpink
    i'll only believe it when it happens ..
    Yup, meron pang referendum na mangyayari. So botohan na naman bago maging Parliament ang gubyerno. Another round ng accusations ng dayaan ulit.

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    nalilito na ako sa gobyerno natin hehe...

    para sa akin eh okay pa rin yung 1987 constitution, kahit ano ipalit natin form of government eh mga sakim pa rin mga yan..

    teka, pag parliamentary na, sino na lang pede iboto ng mga tao?

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