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    ^ That is an absurd generalization. Just because one is a believer does not mean automatic salvation. True faith and belief in God means "talking the talk and walking the walk". Moreover you are implying that only atheist can have the time to do good? Hope you can expound more on that last sentence.

    BTW: Born again, INC etc or those religion that says that you need to be part of their group first before being saved are just fools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    BTW: Born again, INC etc or those religion that says that you need to be part of their group first before being saved are just fools.
    that's the funny thing about Christianity -- the many divisions, sects, groups, spinoffs

    isa lang naman ang God nila

    but they can't agree on what's the right way to practice their religion
    Last edited by uls; May 7th, 2012 at 01:22 PM.

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    ^^ Kaya nga I'm wondering bakit meron na naman ganitong thread eh diba may moratorium na?

    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    that's the funny thing about Christianity -- the many divisions, sects, groups, spinoffs

    isa lang naman ang God nila

    but they can't agree with each other on what's the right way to practice their religion

    I do believe some of them are really for business while others are born out of a different interpretation of the bible or other religious stuff. Tao lang eh. Normal yan na may iba-ibang punto de bista.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Yan ang difference between religious and atheist. Most believers in any religion think that they have the golden ticket to the fabled heaven or eternal life; and waste their time preparing for it. While atheist don't have time to wait for it and try to do their best with their life.
    i dont know where you guys get the idea that we the faithful are already heaven-bound. everyday, I read on my fb from my freinds, thank you lord for this day, lord we praise you, thank God etc. etc. maybe these are the people you are talking about.

    they literally are ass-lickers who think that whenever they praise him, they will get that golden ticket that you're talking about.

    the only thing you're proving here are your biases/stereotyping towards us, and it only reveals that you are close-minded, inspite the fact that you claim you are freethinkers (or open-minded).


    take for example *uls, si *uls ang pinakapambato nyo when it comes to explaining logical things. but he too resorted to personal attacks when the going gets tough

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    i don't know about other people and i'm not referring to other people

    i'm referring to you OB

    from the sound of your posts feeling mo heaven-bound ka

    dahil di ka atheist. dahil di ka mass murderer. at dahil di ka bakla (your examples). feeling mo mas mahal ka ng Diyos?

    quoting you :
    kaya mas mahal ako ng diyos
    again, you sound like the Pharisee who thinks he is favored by God coz he is not a robber, an evildoer, an adulterer, or a tax collector

    sure ka sa heaven punta mo OB?

    100% sure?

    overconfident ka dude

    he who exalts himself will be humbled dude
    Last edited by uls; May 7th, 2012 at 03:47 PM.

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    Yan ang difference between religious and atheist. Most believers in any religion think that they have the golden ticket to the fabled heaven or eternal life; and waste their time preparing for it. While atheist don't have time to wait for it and try to do their best with their life.

    ang sasagot ng beilever -- "eh paano kung may God pala, sa impyerno ka pupunta"

    basically it's a bet

    believers are betting there's a God kasi mahirap na kung sa impyerno mapunta. staying on the safe side ang believer. wala naman daw mawawala kung maniwala sila

    very effective talaga ang concept of "hell" no?

    scares the sh*t out of people
    Last edited by uls; May 7th, 2012 at 12:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ang sasagot ng beilever -- "eh paano kung may God pala, sa impyerno ka pupunta"

    basically it's a bet

    believers are betting there's a God kasi mahirap na kung sa impyerno mapunta. staying on the safe side ang believer. wala naman daw mawawala kung maniwala sila

    very effective talaga ang concept of "hell" no?

    scares the sh*t out of people
    bec. religion acknowledges one fear, fear of God.

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    ^ naalala ko tuloy post mo before, uls...

    for atheists

    if there's no god -- you were right after all. hinde mo sinayang time mo for mass etc. etc.
    if there's a god -- you go to hell

    hehehe wala lang naalala ko lang

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    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    ^ naalala ko tuloy post mo before, uls...

    for atheists

    if there's no god -- you were right after all. hinde mo sinayang time mo for mass etc. etc.
    at hindi na-cloud ang perception mo dahil sa relihyon

    if there's a god -- you go to hell

    hehehe wala lang naalala ko lang
    galing ng nag imbento ng relihyon no?

    bigyan mo ng incentive mga tao sumali sa relihyon mo... tell them they'll live in blissful joy and everlasting happiness in heaven

    if that doesnt work threaten them with pain and suffering and eternal torment in hell para sumali
    Last edited by uls; May 7th, 2012 at 01:08 PM.

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    Going in circles as always. Is there such thing as heaven and hell? Besides what the church tells you, has anyone ever came back from the dead and testified there is life after death?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Going in circles as always. Is there such thing as heaven and hell? Besides what the church tells you, has anyone ever came back from the dead and testified there is life after death?
    Hell has long since been existing in the mythologies in the symbolism of Hades or the Underworld. in pre-Christianity, it had the same concept of place where evil people are destined.

    in most cultures, Hell is described as a very hot fiery place where souls are being punished/tortured. maybe it's specific location is in the Earth's inner core or maybe in our Sun or maybe in a Black hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    Hell has long since been existing in the mythologies in the symbolism of Hades or the Underworld. in pre-Christianity, it had the same concept of place where evil people are destined.

    in most cultures, Hell is described as a very hot fiery place where souls are being punished/tortured. maybe it's specific location is in the Earth's inner core or maybe in our Sun or maybe in a Black hole.
    Now when in hell did mythologies become a fact of it's existance? "maybe" the location somewhere in middle earth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Now when in hell did mythologies become a fact of it's existance? "maybe" the location somewhere in middle earth?
    it exists. in the Smithsonian museums sa D.C. pa ito ah, there is a dedicated room there on the search of Troy. why dedicate so much effort on that mythological place?

    been reading and reading mythology on how the greek champions traveled to hell and back, and I'm agreeable that hell is in fact located underground of Siberia. why do you think the world knows little of the entire Russian continent, russia is 2x bigger than America. bec. it's off limits there tlaga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    it exists. in the Smithsonian museums sa D.C. pa ito ah, there is a dedicated room there on the search of Troy. why dedicate so much effort on that mythological place?

    been reading and reading mythology on how the greek champions traveled to hell and back, and I'm agreeable that hell is in fact located underground of Siberia. why do you think the world knows little of the entire Russian continent, russia is 2x bigger than America. bec. it's off limits there tlaga.
    o ayan ha... ang impyerno daw nasa ilalim ng Siberia

    haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    it exists. in the Smithsonian museums sa D.C. pa ito ah, there is a dedicated room there on the search of Troy. why dedicate so much effort on that mythological place?

    been reading and reading mythology on how the greek champions traveled to hell and back, and I'm agreeable that hell is in fact located underground of Siberia. why do you think the world knows little of the entire Russian continent, russia is 2x bigger than America. bec. it's off limits there tlaga.
    Iyan nga malamang ang Hell Freezes Over....



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    true. i've been humbled so many times by God. andun na yun I lost all my savings, andun na yun I lost my business, at ang pinaka-matindi of all I lost all my motivation to pursue my goals/ambitions, all bec. of unplanned things that happened to me that made me out of focus / emotional / in despair.

    and then, if I will analyze now my life, who am I now? I have this great body (like Brad Pitt's Body), I am healthy. even though i'm not richer, whenever I walk in to restaurant or party or just pass by, people stare at my physique. and I didn't even plan it, kasi sa sobrang naghirap ako, ang kinakain ko lang hotdog saka bacon saka tuna saka lettuce and wheat bread. average of P35/meal. and then bigla ako napunta sa Europe sa USA all unplanned. I had no money to fund for this but somehow, nakapunta ako sa mga places na'to. and when I'm there, it seems that He speaks to me bec. my mind is focused on historical things that had lessons.

    add to that, nagkabarkada pa ako ng mga bakla. why? bec. wala eh yun mga totoong lalaki nagkaron ng inferiority complex about my body kasi mga lousy looking naman tlaga karamihan sa'tin lalo na yun may asawa at anak. bec. of these homo***uals, I attained a body like this. and to think I hated to be with them all my life. at times they talk about God like you atheists, but I don't correct them kasi nga eh sino na maka-kakagym buddies ko? mas importante na dapat fit ako for me to better to face the hardships in life. tapos ang nangyari sobra lalo ako naging appealing sa mga girls even models bec. of my physique.

    truly, God works in mysterious ways.


    you atheists, you don't know what you're missing. you try to have total control of your lives. but that's not it, I tell you. I'm telling this to you not bec. I'm a Pharisee but bec. I'm sharing / opening you to possibilities. submit your lives to him para magkaroon ng kulay ang buhay and not always be intellectual/smart. it will be rollercoaster ride but it will be a meaningful life. you will not be judged by your merits (as some Christian scholars point out) but by your views/acceptance of ins/outs of your religious experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    I have this great body (like Brad Pitt's Body)
    wahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    true. i've been humbled so many times by God. andun na yun I lost all my savings, andun na yun I lost my business, at ang pinaka-matindi of all I lost all my motivation to pursue my goals/ambitions, all bec. of unplanned things that happened to me that made me out of focus / emotional / in despair.

    and then, if I will analyze now my life, who am I now? I have this great body (like Brad Pitt's Body), I am healthy. even though i'm not richer, whenever I walk in to restaurant or party or just pass by, people stare at my physique. and I didn't even plan it, kasi sa sobrang naghirap ako, ang kinakain ko lang hotdog saka bacon saka tuna saka lettuce and wheat bread. average of P35/meal. and then bigla ako napunta sa Europe sa USA all unplanned. I had no money to fund for this but somehow, nakapunta ako sa mga places na'to. and when I'm there, it seems that He speaks to me bec. my mind is focused on historical things that had lessons.

    add to that, nagkabarkada pa ako ng mga bakla. why? bec. wala eh yun mga totoong lalaki nagkaron ng inferiority complex about my body kasi mga lousy looking naman tlaga karamihan sa'tin lalo na yun may asawa at anak. bec. of these homo***uals, I attained a body like this. and to think I hated to be with them all my life. at times they talk about God like you atheists, but I don't correct them kasi nga eh sino na maka-kakagym buddies ko? mas importante na dapat fit ako for me to better to face the hardships in life. tapos ang nangyari sobra lalo ako naging appealing sa mga girls even models bec. of my physique.

    truly, God works in mysterious ways.
    thank you OB for that reply

    really... salamat talaga

    hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    thank you OB for that reply

    really... salamat talaga

    hehehe
    hay salamat. we Christians should rejoice at nabawi na natin si *uls. you should also celebrate *uls with your family, lumabas naman kayo this weekend and give em the good news

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    hay salamat. we Christians should rejoice at nabawi na natin si *uls. you should also celebrate *uls with your family, lumabas naman kayo this weekend and give em the good news
    hahaha

    alam mo ba baket ako nag thank you sayo?

    kasi masaya ako sa post mo

    coz with that post you proved to everyone may sayad ka talaga (well, alam na namin yan pero lalo mo pinatunayan hahaha)

    kaya as far as this thread is concerned the debate is over

    you just flushed your credibility down the toilet

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