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    My friend called me from Israel. He told me that he's thinking why Filipinos are treated that way. Before boarding the plane heading to Israel (nasa hong kong airport sila), all filipino were separated from all boarding passengers and took their hand-carried bags. They fall in a separate line entering the plane. They only got their personal bags when they are already at the door of the plane. The crew opened and inspected all their personal belongings.

    According to him. only filipinos were treated like that on that flight. Others were just carry their bags and board the plane without hazzle.

    Ang masakit pa pagdating sa israel nakita nila na yung mga baggage nila was forcefully opened. Sira yung mga security lock ng mga bag nila. At let me emphasize ng FILIPINOS lang daw ang ginawan ng ganun.

    Grabe..anu tingin ng mundo sa atin?

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    Well, its not so much as hating being a Filipino compared to racial profiling and discrimination.

    We can probably give them a dose of their own medicine by making their nationals take their flights from the old Domestic Airport and giving them a body cavity search before they board any aircraft.
    Last edited by Altis6453; July 2nd, 2008 at 02:31 PM.

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    those incidents have to be validated, then Philippine consular attaches should lodge formal complaints to the host countries.

    the problem is that our economy is dependent sa OFW's kaya madalas ma-exploit at ma-descriminate ang mga kababayan nating umaalis. mababa kasi ng employment opportunities dito sa bayan natin.

    hate being a Filipino? no, it's my God given citizenship and there's a lot of world famous Filipinos e.g. Manny Pacquiao, ...hehehe

    kaya lang maraming ring notoriety ang pinoy e.g. fraud, corruption, crab mentality, etc. (meron yata nito sa isang thread)

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    Israel = chronic Islamic terrorist target

    Known Islamic terrorist groups Abu Sayyaf and Jamal Islamiya = Philippines based

    understand?

    Don't take it too personally

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Israel = chronic Islamic terrorist target

    Known Islamic terrorist groups Abu Sayyaf and Jamal Islamiya = Philippines based

    understand?

    Don't take it too personally
    Yeah, but being a Filipino knowing your kababayans experiencing that nakakasama ng loob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lugarai View Post
    Yeah, but being a Filipino knowing your kababayans experiencing that nakakasama ng loob.
    True! Masakit lunukin pero what can you do? Those people have every rights to search the targeted citizen of the said country specially Phils is also a haven of terrorist groups, just to protect there citizens and country. We dont have this problem before till those terrorist start popping up in the Phils. Since you dont know your enemy is, everything is suspicious.

    It is a matter of pride. Remember, the "pinoys" are the one going into that country as a vistors or worker...... not them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Israel = chronic Islamic terrorist target

    Known Islamic terrorist groups Abu Sayyaf and Jamal Islamiya = Philippines based

    understand?

    Don't take it too personally
    yap +100000 ako dyan.

    mga suspected bombers lang ang ginaganun eh. malamang na may nag feed sa kanila na tsikin maigi ang mga pinoy.

    don't take it too personal man. resulta nga yun ng mga pinaggagawa ng terorista/asg sa atin eh and as far as the Israelis are concern these terrorists/asg are Pilipinoes as well.
    Last edited by dbuzz; July 2nd, 2008 at 07:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lugarai View Post
    My friend called me from Israel. He told me that he's thinking why Filipinos are treated that way. Before boarding the plane heading to Israel (nasa hong kong airport sila), all filipino were separated from all boarding passengers and took their hand-carried bags. They fall in a separate line entering the plane. They only got their personal bags when they are already at the door of the plane. The crew opened and inspected all their personal belongings.

    According to him. only filipinos were treated like that on that flight. Others were just carry their bags and board the plane without hazzle.

    Ang masakit pa pagdating sa israel nakita nila na yung mga baggage nila was forcefully opened. Sira yung mga security lock ng mga bag nila. At let me emphasize ng FILIPINOS lang daw ang ginawan ng ganun.

    Grabe..anu tingin ng mundo sa atin?
    If I was there, I would've asked why. More than likely, they would've given an answer.

    That's what your friend should've done. Then, there'd be something more solid to discuss.

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    Of course i love being a Filipino! And i think you're topic is not related to the problem your discussing... its suppossed to be "Filipinos being hated..." or something like that. Hehe!

    For me there's nothing wrong if they insist na Filipinos lang ang may thorough inspection kasi nga may mga terrorist din sa bansa natin. But one thing na hindi maganda dun e bakit binuksan ng sapilitan yung bags ng walang pahintulot??? Wala po bang notice dun sa place na yun na ganun ang gagawin nila? Baka mamaya may terrorista na dun or magnanakaw? hehehe!

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    almost ten years na rin ako bumubiyahe at halos 4X din ako sumasakay ng plane palabas ng bansa at pabalik pero hindi ko pa naman naexperience ang ganung treatment o sa mga kasama kong pilipino na bumibiyahe rin palabas at pabalik ng bansa, siguro sa israel lang ganun ang treatment satin kasi puro walanghiya talaga mga hudyo kahit saang sulok sila ng mundo mapunta may naiinis sa kanila dahil sa ugali nila sa klase ng trabaho ko madalas ako makaencounter ng jewish at talaga namang mapapatay mo sa kurot.

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    May nagkwento din sa akin ng ganyan.....Hindi nga lang sa israel....sa dubai or abu dhabi ata....

    Babae ito.....Nakaupo na sya sa upuan ng airplane.....pinalipat sya dahil meron iba passenger na hindi filipino na gusto yung pwesto ng upuan nya.... So hindi lang ito dahil meron tayo abu sayaf.... Talagang mababa tingin sa atin.....

    Sa boracay meron incident na tinawag nung foreigner yung hostess ng "come here monkey"

    Imagine ah sa sarili na natin bansa tinatawag tayo unggoy.... Kung susuntukin ba yung foreigner eh mababago pa yung perception nya sa mga pinoy?

    May problema talaga tayo....Kailangan natin ayusin....Mga simpleng bagay hidni natin maayos.....Kasalanan natin yun....

    Kaya ako pag pupunta ng ibang bansa eh mas gugustuhin ko kung saan konti ang Filipino....

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    ito yung post ko 16years ago (July 2nd, 2008 11:07 PM)



    Quote Originally Posted by suv View Post
    May nagkwento din sa akin ng ganyan.....Hindi nga lang sa israel....sa dubai or abu dhabi ata....

    Babae ito.....Nakaupo na sya sa upuan ng airplane.....pinalipat sya dahil meron iba passenger na hindi filipino na gusto yung pwesto ng upuan nya.... So hindi lang ito dahil meron tayo abu sayaf.... Talagang mababa tingin sa atin.....

    Sa boracay meron incident na tinawag nung foreigner yung hostess ng "come here monkey"

    Imagine ah sa sarili na natin bansa tinatawag tayo unggoy.... Kung susuntukin ba yung foreigner eh mababago pa yung perception nya sa mga pinoy?

    May problema talaga tayo....Kailangan natin ayusin....Mga simpleng bagay hidni natin maayos.....Kasalanan natin yun....

    Kaya ako pag pupunta ng ibang bansa eh mas gugustuhin ko kung saan konti ang Filipino....

    Hangang ngayon walang nagbago perception sa peeenoise.

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    disappointing news coming from Israel of all places. they should remember that they are a nation of victims of racial discrimination and persecution. tapos inuulit nila sa iba

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    Kasalanan din natin yan, wala tayong respeto sa sarili natin.

    Imagine kawawa tayo pag tayo ang nasa bansa ng dayuhan, pero pag sila ang nandito abay nilalagay natin sila sa pedestral.

    Then here comes media "How's your stay in the Philippines?"... "Do you love it here?"... worst "How do you find our Filipinas?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by lugarai View Post
    My friend called me from Israel. He told me that he's thinking why Filipinos are treated that way. Before boarding the plane heading to Israel (nasa hong kong airport sila), all filipino were separated from all boarding passengers and took their hand-carried bags. They fall in a separate line entering the plane. They only got their personal bags when they are already at the door of the plane. The crew opened and inspected all their personal belongings.

    According to him. only filipinos were treated like that on that flight. Others were just carry their bags and board the plane without hazzle.

    Ang masakit pa pagdating sa israel nakita nila na yung mga baggage nila was forcefully opened. Sira yung mga security lock ng mga bag nila. At let me emphasize ng FILIPINOS lang daw ang ginawan ng ganun.

    Grabe..anu tingin ng mundo sa atin?
    I actually got a reply from the email I sent to the Israeli Embassy in DC. Before I reply with a follow-on email, there are several things I need:

    1. Was it an Israeli carrier/airline?

    2. Were the Filipinos also segregated upon entry to Israel or only while at Hong Kong Airport?

    3. Were customs in Israel noticeably stricter to Pinoys than other foreigners?

    Add: I have taken in interest in this because my wife's nephew had worked previously in Israel. He had a very pleasant time there which contradicts what I'm hearing here.

    I also want to make sure it's not the Hong Kong authorities who've had incidents with Pinoys before like the life vests thefts in another thread.
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; July 8th, 2008 at 07:09 AM.

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    I got the following reply from the Israeli Embassy and I quote:

    "Again, thank you for your inquiry. We apologize, but we are unsure of
    the specific instance you are referring to. The policy of the Israeli
    Embassy is not to engage in rumors. If you can bring a specific case
    when Philippine Nationals were singled out to our attention we will
    further investigate the situation.

    Thank you."


    I replied back and quoted the thread starter's original post. Hopefully, they're looking into it.

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    I hope Israel will not be another racial bigot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpdm View Post
    I hope Israel will not be another racial bigot...
    That would be out of their character based on the experiences of my wife's cousin. He worked at a hotel in Israel for a time and had a very pleasant stay.

    With this incident, there's really not enough to go on. Do we know for sure that it's Israel and not Hong Kong that's making it difficult for the Pinoys? The fact that it happened in Hong Kong and not at Israel itself raised my doubts. The Hong Kong authorities have had a long history of incidents with Pinoys and their less-than-fair treatment of Pinoys has been noted before. Also, while Hong Kong may seem like it's old British days, it's now under the PROC's watch. Push comes to shove, the PROC is still an authoritarian regime.

    Me, I'd at least wait and hear the Israelis' side. Like some said, it may have been security precautions as the main reason. But, we won't know for sure until we hear their side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    That would be out of their character based on the experiences of my wife's cousin. He worked at a hotel in Israel for a time and had a very pleasant stay.

    With this incident, there's really not enough to go on. Do we know for sure that it's Israel and not Hong Kong that's making it difficult for the Pinoys? The fact that it happened in Hong Kong and not at Israel itself raised my doubts. The Hong Kong authorities have had a long history of incidents with Pinoys and their less-than-fair treatment of Pinoys has been noted before. Also, while Hong Kong may seem like it's old British days, it's now under the PROC's watch. Push comes to shove, the PROC is still an authoritarian regime.

    Me, I'd at least wait and hear the Israelis' side. Like some said, it may have been security precautions as the main reason. But, we won't know for sure until we hear their side.
    Thanks for the initiative Sir Jun. I'll contact my friend and will get the details we need. Thanks again..

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