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    Ampatuan victims open to negotiated settlement due to delay in trial



    Tired of the slow pace of justice, relatives of 14 of the 58 fatalities in the November 2009 Ampatuan massacre had signed an agreement with an “emissary” of the accused to negotiate the settlement of the murder case for P50 million.

    But no settlement has been reached to date: The “emissary,” identified as Jun Chan, was killed in an ambush en route to his farm in Barangay Sulit in General Santos City a month after the agreement was signed.

    The agreement with Chan was reached the third week of February, and Chan was killed on March 25. But the proposed settlement surfaced only recently when an heir of one of the victims decided to provide the details to highlight how precarious their situation is—financially and security-wise—as victims living in Mindanao.

    Lawyer Harry Roque confirmed in radio interviews that four of the 14 heirs who signed the agreement with Chan are his clients.
    The source, who attended the two meetings with Chan but ended up not signing the agreement, said the meetings were held in a mosque in General Santos on the second and third weeks of February. Chan was accompanied by a man they called “Prof,” but the heirs came without their lawyers, the source said.

    Source: Ampatuan victims open to negotiated settlement due to delay in trial

    Why is the ampatuan massacre case taking way too long? It is not like that ah.

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    Ask sec. delima... why?

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    Justice system sucks...period. Bawat galaw pwede ireklamo hangang Supreme Court...

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    diba lalapit na sila sa UN kasi di nagalaw ang kaso... baka ma tulad yan kay Polpot... yung vietnam killing fields buhay pa ba yon?

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    appointed public prosecutors by delima sucks... pinalitan pa yung magaling, pinalit eh kaibigan nya... that is why it is taking tooo long...!!!

    balita ko dyan 114 witness daw ang ihaharap!!!!

    bakit hindi nalang pumile ng 4 lang sa 114 witneses na credible at magagaling... para tapos agad...

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    Patay na si Pol Pot.

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    Dati ng mabagal bago pa si delima ang andiyan e.....

    Sa tinagal ko na sa mundong ibabaw simulat sapul mabagal na ang hustisya sa pilipinas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Dati ng mabagal bago pa si delima ang andiyan e.....

    Sa tinagal ko na sa mundong ibabaw simulat sapul mabagal na ang hustisya sa pilipinas...
    ganun talaga sir at may tinatawag tayong due process...

    sir dba mas bibilis kung 4-5 lang witness ang presinta ng prosecution kesa naman 114-120?

    at isa pa sir... special case itong ampatuan case... yung judge dito almost everyday ang hearing, simula 9.am umaabot ng 5pm minsan 7pm pa bago matapos... ( sabi nga ng isang judge.... kung pwede lang masubukan ng taong bayan maging judge para malaman nila na hindi pala pwedeng madaliin ang paglilitis....

    unlike yung regular cases... every 2-3 months ang schedule ng hearing.... depende pa sa calendario ng husgado yan....

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Dati ng mabagal bago pa si delima ang andiyan e.....

    Sa tinagal ko na sa mundong ibabaw simulat sapul mabagal na ang hustisya sa pilipinas...
    meron namang mabilis ang hustisya pag mahirap ang akusado sigurado may hatol agad kaya marami din naka kulong na walang kasalanan dala lang ng kahirapan

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    nakakasilaw talaga ang salapi!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightRock View Post
    meron namang mabilis ang hustisya pag mahirap ang akusado sigurado may hatol agad kaya marami din naka kulong na walang kasalanan dala lang ng kahirapan
    ayan ang hindi totoo sir... (JUDICIARY LEVEL)

    kwentong barbero lang ang mga ganyan...

    sa direct examination palang... mahuhuli na ang mga inconsistencies.. eh may cross pa... etc..etc... then ang batas pa natin dapat beyond reasonable doubt....

    mas madalas na mangyari ang may kasalanan ang hindi nakukulong...

    pwede lang manyari ito sa PULIS level... illegal detention, planted evidence, abuse of authority... pero sir pag dating sa husgado... SASABUNIN ang mga tiwaling pulis na yan.... at mapapawalang sala ang mga akusado...

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    ganun talaga sir at may tinatawag tayong due process...

    sir dba mas bibilis kung 4-5 lang witness ang presinta ng prosecution kesa naman 114-120?

    at isa pa sir... special case itong ampatuan case... yung judge dito almost everyday ang hearing, simula 9.am umaabot ng 5pm minsan 7pm pa bago matapos... ( sabi nga ng isang judge.... kung pwede lang masubukan ng taong bayan maging judge para malaman nila na hindi pala pwedeng madaliin ang paglilitis....

    unlike yung regular cases... every 2-3 months ang schedule ng hearing.... depende pa sa calendario ng husgado yan....
    Ilang pahina kaya ang kasong ito sa SCRA? Hahaha

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    hindi kaya maubos ang kayaman ni ampatauan kung 50M per person?

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    when money talks, everybody listens

    balak siguro ng mga panyeros ... uubusin pera ng mga ampatuan ... para kahit na mapawalan-sala (huwag naman), wala na silang babalikan na kayamanan, wala na kapangyarihan, madali na sila resbakan ng kaaway nila

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    Di ba sa US merong mga juror bat di ba tayo pde magkaroon ng juror sa korte?

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    Farce of the decade

    Its barely acceptable to have a negotiated settlement if you accidentally run over someone who is crossing in the wrong place
    Much less in a massacre

    I mean where else in the world will a massacre end in a negotiated settlement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jansky View Post
    Di ba sa US merong mga juror bat di ba tayo pde magkaroon ng juror sa korte?
    Like the jurors who acquitted OJ Simpson and Imelda Marcos? A jury system has its issues.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by viper888 View Post
    Farce of the decade

    Its barely acceptable to have a negotiated settlement if you accidentally run over someone who is crossing in the wrong place
    Much less in a massacre

    I mean where else in the world will a massacre end in a negotiated settlement?
    Only in the philippines sir. As the old saying goes justice delayed is justice denied.

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