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    Ayan na mga mandaraya...........


    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/02...lot-foil-polls



    Comelec says report is still unverified

    MANILA, Philippines - A Commission on Elections (Comelec) official said on Tuesday that reports of possible disruption of the May 10 poll results through jamming of telecommunication signals may just be part of a bigger plan to foil the May 10 automated elections.

    "As a matter of prudence, we should accept the possibility that [a possible effort to delay the transmission of votes] is just a tip of the
    iceberg," Comelec spokesman James Jimenez told radio dzMM.

    Jimenez was reacting to a suggested scenario of radio dzMM anchors Ted Failon and Pinky Webb that attempting to delay the transmission of counted votes by the Precinct Count Optical Scan (PCOS) machines through mobile network signals may be part of a bigger play to manipulate the results of the May 10 elections.

    The Comelec spokesman said the possibility cannot be discounted, and the poll body is taking the matter very seriously.

    However, he added that reports of people planning to use signal jammers may also be planning to just "undermine the confidence of the [automated elections] system."

    "Right now, we are looking at the more obvious [reason]: to undermine the confidence of the system and to create confusion," he said, clarifying that what the signal jammers can do is only to delay the transmission of the results.

    Still no confirmation

    Jimenez, meanwhile, clarified that the Comelec has yet to confirm the veracity of reports that 5,000 units of signal jammers have been smuggled into the country.

    "Even now, we have not verified that report," he said.

    He added that the information was not supposed to leak to the media while they were still trying to confirm the reports. "We are still trying to verify if there was really a shipment and who is the consignee."

    Jimenez said Monday that the Comelec is already working on counter-measures to prevent the signal jammers from disrupting the transmission of the votes to the main servers of the automated system.

    Hard to identify jammers

    Edgardo Cabarrios, chief of the National Telecommunications Commission's (NTC) common carriers authorization department, told ABS-CBN's Umagang Kay Ganda that they can trace a signal jammer if it is in use.

    Cabarrios, however, said that it would be very hard to identify the person holding or using a signal jammer because of its size.

    "It can be traced because it emits a signal, but it would be very hard to identify the person using it because it's too small," the NTC official said, adding that a signal jammer can even be smaller than the average-size of a cellular phone.

    Cabarrios said the NTC has not identified which stores are illegally selling signal jammers locally. He added that not a single jammer has been arrested.

    He said that with the reports by ABS-CBN News about the signal jammers, the NTC's enforcement unit is now planning to conduct inspections in stores that could be illegally distributing signal jammers.

    Cabarrios said that based on a law created in 1931, an individual who will be caught using, selling and smuggling signal jammers can be fined fees of P2,000 to P5,000 per unit and possible imprisonment.

    Jammed PCOS testing?

    Jimenez also told radio dzMM that the PCOS testing conducted in the Pateros-Taguig area last week could also have been disrupted by a signal jammer.

    "I guess that it's a possibility," he said.

    He added that it was unusual that the PCOS machines failed to transmit votes in Pateros and Taguig due to weak mobile network signals, but the people using cellular phones near the machines were able to use them.

    "Last night, I was speaking to someone who knows these things. The jammer might have been a small device, close to the transmitter to jam it," he said.

    Jimenez added that the Comelec is also looking into the possibility of controlling the number of people near the PCOS machines during transmission to avoid the possibility of jammers infiltrating the crowd inside polling precincts.

    The Comelec spokesman said if jammers succeed in blocking GSM transmission, they can always use the Broadband Global Area Network (BGAN), where the transmission of votes are done via satellite.

    He said that the Comelec has been advised that the BGAN signals are not affected by signal jammers.

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    at least the COMELEC is not denying such problem may occur.

    and they have contingencies in place.

    and hopefully, only the transmission of results is affected and not the election results itself.

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    kung 5,000 jammers ang inimport malamang hindi pang local elections lang ang target. if comelec would not be able to transmit the data from the precinct then they would have to travel some distance to get to a hardline. dun pwedeng magkaproblema. tsk. good luck to us all.

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    Sana masunog ang mga utak nila kapag sinusubukan na nila ang kanilang mga jammers...

    9202:toothbrush:

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    might be a good idea to use HARM on 'em jammers
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Palagay nyo, sino kaya ang nag-finance ng 5,000 jammers na yan? Talagang gagawin talaga ang lahat, makapandaya lang.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Palagay nyo, sino kaya ang nag-finance ng 5,000 jammers na yan? Talagang gagawin talaga ang lahat, makapandaya lang.......
    Who else would have the financing, government backing, and personal gains when they rigged the election enough to claim an electoral "win"?

    Arroyo and cohorts of course.

    Power corrupts....

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    Edgardo Cabarrios, chief of the National Telecommunications Commission's (NTC) common carriers authorization department, told ABS-CBN's Umagang Kay Ganda that they can trace a signal jammer if it is in use.
    yeah right... it might be "easy" to trace a single signal. How about if there are a dozen sources in the area? Standard signal triangulation will not work.

    And it would be easy enough to mount the signal jammers on vehicles (like cars, auvs, and even motorcycles/scooters) that can be moved at regular intervals to prevent standard signal triangulation.

    The jammers don't have to be located at 5000 different poll stations. They just have to be located at poll stations where the favored political candidates are weak. So you can place 5 jammers at 1000 polling stations where the favored political candidate is weak and that will be enough to offset the final poll tally.

    Given that it is already concluded that the presidential winner for the 2010 elections will be a minority winner, this scenario might be the one that will be played out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Palagay nyo, sino kaya ang nag-finance ng 5,000 jammers na yan? Talagang gagawin talaga ang lahat, makapandaya lang.......
    jammers can only delay transmission of results maybe (or hopefully) by at most an hour. it cannot change the result of the counting.

    and we have 80,000+++ counting machines against 5,000 jammers.

    anyway, this automation will have its problems for sure. but it is a step forward as compared to manual counting.

    speaking of delay, we are used to two months (for presidential position) of waiting for the canvassing result. i think a few days or weeks of waiting will be a big improvement.

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    BTW, I don't believe only in 5,000 jammers are out there. Only 5,000 of who knows how many jammers are out there were detected as there were smuggled into the country.

    So if 5,000 jammers were shipped in one smuggling operation, there can be a dozen other shipments that went undetected.

    And it's only Feb 2010. The ones who smuggled the jammers have three more months to bring in more equiptment and not necessarily through the usual shipping ports.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; February 7th, 2010 at 04:31 PM.

5,000 units of signal jammers to disrupt 2010 elections?