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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    People saw what they wanted to see during the debate.

    Save for Poe's undoubtedly stalwart performance, people's judgment for everyone else was simply reflective of who they were rooting for before the debate.


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    Indeed.

    Looking at the rabidly pro-Duterte and rabidly pro-Mar camps... both agree that Grace was second place.

    If only our elections were decided like that... Everyone ranks the candidates according to their favorites... You get five points for first, four for second, three for third, etcetera.

    Poe would win.

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    I'm impressed with how she was able to hold her own. Of course, there are questions as to how she would implement the programs she put forward... but it's obvious that she was the most prepared of the majors.

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    Miriam... sharp brain. Sharp tongue. But realistically, she's a spent force. She should just step aside so as not to divide the votes.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Mali dyan alam mo kung ano, mataas din IQ ni MR. Wharton grad ba naman.

    Siya yung nagrerecite may sense kamo.


    People who make no sense, can't or won't make sense of people who make sense.

    Don't try to make sense of people who make no sense...or else you will lose your sense :D

    GP was surprisingly calm and confident, considering she's the rookie..though a bit too "academic" for me. MR harped a bit too much about the Daang Matuwid, but he did give relevant answers. Yung isa ang solusyon sa lahat ay pagiging decisive(as if somebody coached him on that), the other one talked about his pen*s, and the other lady isn't the same dragon lady of old -- the Miriam i know would not have let that swipe at his son go unanswered with unbridled fury and hifalutin' English.
    Last edited by badkuk; February 22nd, 2016 at 11:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xninjax View Post

    i wouldn't say Binay was bullied during the debates. Save for MR, i thought the other candidates were very cordial to him, even Miriam.

    Duterte appeared more like a DOM than a siga to me.

    GP...yeah, i'll give him that.

    Miriam..pano maging topnotcher e parang hirap magsalita?


    MR: walang sense? Baka hindi lang po naintindihan ng FB poster yung sagot niya


    Doesn't take a genius to know this came from a Binay lackey.

    (btw, who takes a selfie with the camera covering his face? If he wanted anonymity he could've just done away with the photo...)
    Last edited by badkuk; February 22nd, 2016 at 11:22 PM.

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    TRANSCRIPT: Presidential debate in Oro

    Sunday, February 21, 2016

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    Photo taken from the Twitter account of Comelec Spokesperson James Jimenez.
    Photo taken from the Twitter account of Comelec Spokesperson James Jimenez.

    HERE is the transcript of the presidential debate held at Capitol University, Cagayan de Oro City, on Sunday afternoon.

    Opening statements
    Senator Miriam Defensor-Santiago: "We are rich in natural resources, in people resources, and yet...we are one of the poorest countries in the Asean community. Why are we so poor? Because everybody wants the money of the government in his own pocket. What our country needs is a shared sense of destiny."

    Mayor Rodrigo Duterte: "Senator Santiago is one of the two qualified to become president....There is so much corruption in government. If I become president I will get rid of criminality, drugs and corruption. Just give me 3 to 6 months. I will deliver."

    Senator Grace Poe: "It is only fiting that we meet here in Mindanao...(It is so rich yet..)Why is Mindanao poor? I propose to allocate 30 percent of the national budget for Mindanao."

    Former secretary Mar Roxas: "To whom will we entrust our children's safety? On a thief, on someone who is short-fused, or someone who has just learned how to drive? You have known me for a long time."

    First round
    The first round focused on each candidate's track record. In alphabetical order, a candidate answered a question from the moderators, then another candidate either asked a follow-up or commented on the response.

    Q for Binay: "How did you amass your real property and wealth? A: I either inherited or bought these over 3 decades."
    Santiago: "Did Binay acquire his properties before he was elected or when he was already in office?"

    Q for Santiago: "You have attended fewer than 10 plenary sessions in the 16th Congress. Why are you running despite your illness?"
    Santiago: "It's my right to run under the Constitution. Sickness does not disqualify you...Eh, hindi ako pinatay ng guardian angel ko!"

    Duterte: "I will not go into a debate with Ma'am Miriam. She's telling the truth. I do not see Senator Santiago passing away in the next 20 years."

    Q for Duterte: "Are you a role model for the youth? Are your qualities those we need in a president?
    Duterte: As long as I do it in accordance with the law, I will continue to kill criminals...I will use the military and police to go after drugs. I do not deny anything...If I become president, it will be bloody."

    Q for Poe: "You’ve the thinnest resume among the candidates. Have you served enough to become president?"
    Roxas: "A president cannot be an on-the-job trainee. There is a proper time for everything. Mahalaga ang malinis na karanasan."

    Q for Roxas: "Given your track record, how can you prove that you will be an effective president?
    Roxas: At DOTC, we conducted the bidding for over 100 projects, without anomalies."
    Binay: "I will not succumb to paralysis by analysis...The people of Leyte are livid with Roxas for his failures ("kapalpakan") after Yolanda."

    Second round
    Topic: "One in every 4 families fell below the poverty line as of 2014. How will you reduce poverty without giving consumers a raw deal?"

    Binay: "We will modernize agriculture by modernizing post-harvest facilities, attracting more capital for infra (among others)."

    Poe: "Irrigation should be free. Crop insurance should be expanded. We need agro-industrial zones."
    Poe: "Public schools should offer free lunch. The poorest Filipinos are in agriculture; they need subsidies. When importing, let's consider the plight of farmers."

    Santiago: "Promises are easy to make. Which president has ever reduced poverty? Where are we going to get the money for these programs?"
    Q for Santiago: "The Philippine economy has grown but many Filipinos remain poor. How would you redistribute wealth?"
    Santiago: "Let's expand the budget for health, education, rural infrastructure, social welfare. We can decrease sub-taxes, like real estate tax."

    Roxas: "We have safety nets, like Philhealth. I will continue this if elected as president."
    Q for Roxas: "How will you improve the lives of fishers and protect our seas?"
    Roxas: "Access to low-interest credit and modern tech, like radars, are essential. They also need post-catch facilities and access to markets."

    Duterte: "I cannot rebut what he has said because that is all true. The problem is we have so many problems to solve. Implementation is the key."
    Q for Duterte: "How will you fight rice cartels and price manipulation?"
    Duterte: "Sus, Ma'am. I'll do it in 3-6 months. I will arrest smugglers, build food terminals, establish credit coops with P1B per region."

    Binay: "Leaders cannot be effective if they are not decisive. That is why nothing is being done against smuggling."
    Third round
    Questions for this final round focused on Mindanao's issues, and were gathered via social media.

    Q for Duterte: "How will you prevent irregularities in infrastructure projects?"
    Duterte: "64% of projects are in Metro Manila. Mindanaoans are angry because we are not getting a fair share of tax revenue...That's why people clamor for federal government."

    Roxas: "Mindanao today has twice the amount of infra in 5 years than it did in Estrada, Arroyo years. But yes, that's not enough."

    Duterte: "Wala akong nakitang tuwid na daan. Puro kulubot naman yan."

    Q for Roxas: "How will you solve the problem of drug cartels? Do you favor restoring the death penalty?"
    Roxas: "We will go after cartels. But it's not just a police problem. It will take all of us coming together."
    Binay: "The problem is enforcement. Our leadership is not decisive. I am decisive."

    Q for Binay: "How will you support the bill against political dynasties?"
    Binay: "We need to define clearly what a dynasty is. Why should we limit the number of qualified candidates who can win in an honest election?"
    Santiago: "Self-interest keeps Congress from enacting an anti-dynasty law. To end them, we can amend the Constitution."

    Q for Santiago: "Are you in favor of the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement, as one way to counter China's influence?"
    Santiago: "I am against the Edca. It should've first passed the Senate, not just the executive department...Let us stand for our sovereign rights."

    Poe: "I agree with Senator Santiago. The Senate needs to review Edca. We must put the country's interests first. We can also strengthen our military, the way Singapore has. Let us take a leadership role in the Asean."

    Q for Poe: "Will you push for the Bangsamoro Basic Law or will you pursue a new agreement?"
    Poe: "We need a transparent, inclusive, sustainable talks and agreement and consult everyone, including Christians in Mindanao...we also need to invest more in the growth of Mindanao."

    Duterte: "Unless we pursue federalism, nothing can appease Mindanao. I would offer not only the BBL, but federalism. You have to right the historical wrongs committed against Mindanao."

    Closing statements
    Each candidate gets 60 seconds to say why should they be the next president.

    Binay: "Given my experience and my record of helping the poor, I believe underspending needs to end. Underspending leads to underperformance. That's why our infrastructure needs are not being met."

    Santiago: "We are looking for a real leader. This is not a personality contest or entertainment. There should be academic excellence, as head of the class or at least an honors student. The leader should have shown professional and moral excellence. Good luck to you and good luck to all of us."

    Duterte: "Nganong nia man ko diri. I am here because I love our country. I am a native of the Philippines...it seems nobody is minding the store! If you choose me and God wills it, I will get rid of drugs, suppress crime and stop corruption in government in 3 to 6 months."

    Poe: "This is not about candidates but about what's important to you. For Mindanao, I will rehab the power system, provide more jobs, fight corruption. My first executive order will require Freedom of Information. Yes, I am new, but our problems are not new and we have tried to fix them with old solutions."

    Roxas: "Why do I want to be president? Gusto ko maging maayos din ang buhay ninyo, malaya sa gutom, malaya sa takot, malayang mangarap." (Sun.Star Cebu)

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    #685
    Napapansin ko na parang robot sumagot si poe ,naka program na lahat. While si roxas naman ay parang taong grasa kung magsalita. Nag mamakaawa at puro pangako.

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    #686
    Quote Originally Posted by XploY View Post
    Napapansin ko na parang robot sumagot si poe ,naka program na lahat. While si roxas naman ay parang taong grasa kung magsalita. Puro pangako.
    I will get rid of drugs, suppress crime and stop corruption in government in 3 to 6 months.
    Yan naman parang baliw.

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    #687
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Yan naman parang baliw.
    hahaha. "what if" mangyayari yung sinasabi ni duterte? everybody happy dba? except dun sa mga criminal. sa totoo lang hindi talaga ako naniniwala sa sincerety ni roxas at poe. kasi tried and tested na yung failure nila. they both have the chance and the power to make this a country a better place -- peaceful, prosperous, etc. but... it never happen.

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    #688
    That transcript seems very incomplete. i distinctly remember shaking my head when this happened:



    Duterte on girlfriends: Anong gagawin ko sa karga-karga ko?


    afaik a transcript should log *everything*; if the transcriber is going to "pick out" the relevant parts, then there's subjectivity.
    Last edited by badkuk; February 23rd, 2016 at 12:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XploY View Post
    hahaha. "what if" mangyayari yung sinasabi ni duterte? everybody happy dba? except dun sa mga criminal. sa totoo lang hindi talaga ako naniniwala sa sincerety ni roxas at poe. kasi tried and tested na yung failure nila. they both have the chance and the power to make this a country a better place -- peaceful, prosperous, etc. but... it never happen.
    What if mangyayari?! Kabaliwan lang yan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    That transcript seems very incomplete. i distinctly remember shaking my head when this happened:



    Duterte on girlfriends: Anong gagawin ko sa karga-karga ko?
    Yes its not complete. Hinanap ko yung sinabi ni duterte na 19M lang yung napunta sa entire region 11. While a certain city received 64M? Kaya may disparity talaga sa hatian ng yaman.

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