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    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/250031/...m-folk-must-go

    alam kaya nung UPA (Urban Poor Associates) executive director Denis Murphy na yung mga pinagtatangol nyang mga tao e nang aabuso na nang gobyerno?
    may paupahan ng 10 rooms/house, may mineral water station, may tindahan, etc. na hindi naman nagbabayad ng tamang buwis. tapos kapag sakuna na, sila ang dahilan. dahil puro basura nila ang nakabara sa daanan ng baha, sila pa yung mareklamo na hindi sila tinutulungan ng gobyerno para irescue agad.

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    Pasasabugin daw yung ayaw umalis...GUD LUCK na lang sa taong in charge. Rereklamo mga militante like KADAMAY, anti maralita daw kasi.





    Last edited by Monseratto; August 15th, 2012 at 10:27 AM.

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    they haven't met a "wimpy", "indecisive" pnoy...ngayon nila malalaman na yun lampalelot and noynoying Kung maaawa or makikinig Sa kanila

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    it's about time they go.

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    This is where our taxes will go!

    Imagine, squatter bibigyan ng government ng pabahay! Tayo nagkanda-kuba sa trabaho para mag-kabahay. Then they will sell the house and squat again. WTF, halos lahat yata na evacuation center puro squatter ang laman (not generalizing here). Tapos nandito tayo na we must heed the call, give, give, give, donate, donate, donate!

    It's honorable to donate what is abundant to you, but to give to people year-in, year-out na matitigas din ang ulo, at mga oportunista ... it defeats that honorable purpose! Ang tulong ba natin, NAKAKARATING sa kailangan talaga ng tulong? These people already know the consequences, pero ayaw pa rin nila makinig, then when tragedy strikes and one of the becomes a casualty ... ang sisi nasa government ... WTF!

    Hay naku .. ang pobreng puso ko! Na-high blood ako sa news na ito
    Last edited by lowslowbenz; August 15th, 2012 at 12:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    Hay naku .. ang pobreng puso ko! Na-high blood ako sa news na ito
    Tawagan mo si Mrs. Jones... dali! :D But yes, its irritating to see that we have to foot the bill for all these who hardly contribute to the taxes collected.

    Yes, they should go... but then, where will they go and how will it be done? Next, how do you keep them where they are brought to? We're working with an LGU already for the relocation of those squatters and really, it's a big pain in the ass given that we're just working with moving some 500 families (almost a year hence and we still have 200+ to go, and threats come in to the site people quite regularly)... let alone moving 100,000 families all around Metro Manila, dealing with various LGUs, etc. It's going to be a herculean task and i'll be quite impressed if they pull it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Tawagan mo si Mrs. Jones... dali! :D But yes, its irritating to see that we have to foot the bill for all these who hardly contribute to the taxes collected.

    Yes, they should go... but then, where will they go and how will it be done? Next, how do you keep them where they are brought to? We're working with an LGU already for the relocation of those squatters and really, it's a big pain in the ass given that we're just working with moving some 500 families (almost a year hence and we still have 200+ to go, and threats come in to the site people quite regularly)... let alone moving 100,000 families all around Metro Manila, dealing with various LGUs, etc. It's going to be a herculean task and i'll be quite impressed if they pull it off.
    National ID System bro,- plus restrictions in the Metro...

    Sabihin ng maraming hindi makatao,- pero some harsh measures have to be adopted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    This is where our taxes will go!

    Imagine, squatter bibigyan ng government ng pabahay! Tayo nagkanda-kuba sa trabaho para mag-kabahay. Then they will sell the house and squat again. WTF, halos lahat yata na evacuation center puro squatter ang laman (not generalizing here). Tapos nandito tayo na we must heed the call, give, give, give, donate, donate, donate!

    It's honorable to donate what is abundant to you, but to give to people year-in, year-out na matitigas din ang ulo, at mga oportunista ... it defeats that honorable purpose! Ang tulong ba natin, NAKAKARATING sa kailangan talaga ng tulong? These people already know the consequences, pero ayaw pa rin nila makinig, then when tragedy strikes and one of the becomes a casualty ... ang sisi nasa government ... WTF!

    Hay naku .. ang pobreng puso ko! Na-high blood ako sa news na ito
    very true! tapos sila pa yung maraming reklamo! mga letse! tayo hirap na hirap sa pagtrabaho makabayad lang sa bahay at lupa na inutang... samantalang sila lilipat na lang don sa mga bahay na ibibigay sa kanila na nanggaling sa ating bulsa... tapos ang dahilan non e dahil nag-squat sila illegaly.. hay pinas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    This is where our taxes will go!

    Imagine, squatter bibigyan ng government ng pabahay! Tayo nagkanda-kuba sa trabaho para mag-kabahay. Then they will sell the house and squat again. WTF, halos lahat yata na evacuation center puro squatter ang laman (not generalizing here). Tapos nandito tayo na we must heed the call, give, give, give, donate, donate, donate!

    It's honorable to donate what is abundant to you, but to give to people year-in, year-out na matitigas din ang ulo, at mga oportunista ... it defeats that honorable purpose! Ang tulong ba natin, NAKAKARATING sa kailangan talaga ng tulong? These people already know the consequences, pero ayaw pa rin nila makinig, then when tragedy strikes and one of the becomes a casualty ... ang sisi nasa government ... WTF!

    Hay naku .. ang pobreng puso ko! Na-high blood ako sa news na ito
    Relaks, joy ride ka muna sa village or punta sa mall at tumingin sa mga propects na saleslady.

    Dapat kasi sa ganyan para walang kaso, sunugin. Eh di walang problema sa pagpapalayas. Tapos i-timbre agad sa mga bombero na 'wag na isalba yan, pagtunan ng pansin yung mga katabing legal occupants.

    Also, sa totoo lang ang dami kayang professional squatters.

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    siguro kung tatagalin lahat ng slums sa gilid ng ilog dito sa metro manila very minimal lang ang baha dito...at lahat ng ilog dito palalimin para makadaan ng mabuti yun tubig ulan...yan sana iprioritize ng goverment tangalin ang mga informal settler jan kesa gawa ng napakamahal anti-flood infrastructure project...
    Last edited by timrev; August 15th, 2012 at 11:58 AM.

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    puso mo slowbenz

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    wala ng pagshootingan ang mga indie films pag mawala ang squatters.

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    “Blow up the houses of people, as if they were bandits, crooks or robbers, and the government has to go in, and bomb them? I think the poor would be shocked to hear those words,” he said.
    not generalizing since there are definitely good and decent people in there, but most of the bandits, crooks, and robbers in metro manila are in squatter areas.

    tanggalin na ang Lina Law at ibalik yung Presidential Decree No. 772

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    Quote Originally Posted by roninblade View Post
    tanggalin na ang Lina Law at ibalik yung Presidential Decree No. 772
    anu ba yun lina law at Presidential Decree No. 772?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timrev View Post
    anu ba yun lina law at Presidential Decree No. 772?
    PD#772
    Section 1. Any person who, with the use of force, intimidation or threat, or taking advantage of the absence or tolerance of the landowner, succeeds in occupying or possessing the property of the latter against his will for residential commercial or any other purposes, shall be punished by an imprisonment ranging from six months to one year or a fine of not less than one thousand nor more than five thousand pesos at the discretion of the court, with subsidiary imprisonment in case of insolvency.

    If the offender is a corporation or association, the maximum penalty of five years and the fine of five thousand pesos shall be imposed upon the president, director, manager or managing partners thereof.
    turns out the Lina Law is actually often misunderstood and abused. I just found this fairly recent article interviewing Lina himself.

    source
    MANILA, Philippines - Private landowners do not need to find relocation sites to evict illegal settlers from their property, former Interior and Local Government Secretary Joey Lina said on Thursday.

    Lina said the issue of relocation for illegal settlers on private land is one of the misconceptions of Republic Act No. 7279 or the Urban Development and Housing Act of 1992, which he helped pass into law and is now often referred to as the "Lina law."

    "If you own the land and somebody squats, whether professional or not, you don't need to give them relocation. [Squatters] can get relocation only from the local government unit and only if they are occupying government land. If they are not given land, then the LGU should give them the equivalent of 60 days in daily wage. This is according to the principle of eviction of settlers in a humane manner," he told radio dzMM.

    "It would be unjust for private landowners to lose their property to settlers. It is really government's responsibility to ensure that families have decent housing," he added.

    Lina said demolition of illegal shanties should be done following the guidelines as enumerated in the law.

    He noted that the eviction of illegal settlers can be handled at the barangay level since it falls under their jurisdiction.

    "You can ask the barangay to stop [the settlers]. If they don't do anything, then he is liable for violating the law. Walang building permit as provided under the National Building Code. The executive of the local government can also evict if he declares the structure a nuisance," he said.

    Lina, meanwhile, said it is customary that private landowners ask a local court to order the eviction of illegal settlers

    "Under our system even without the Lina Law, they can't take the law in his hands. They have to go to court for an ejectment. but if the LGU just moves, they have the power to enforce the National Building Code to order the eviction and demolition of illegal structures," he said.

    kulang lang talaga ng political will to relocate the squatters. hopefully this current initiative continues.

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    Aalis ba mga yan sa Happy Land........

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    The poor would be “shocked” to hear this, added Murphy, a former Jesuit priest who had been working with the urban poor in Metro Manila since cofounding the UPA.
    Shocked din ako.

    That after all of these years na alam naman ninyong kayong mga illegal settler, aka, squatters, ang isang malaking dahilan sa pagbaha sa lugar natin,- makakapal pa rin ang mga mukha ninyong manisi ng gobyerno at ng ibang tao!

    T*ngn* ninyo!

    POLITICAL WILL - ISULONG NA!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Aalis ba mga yan sa Happy Land........
    di pa ngayon...mag eeleksyon pa eh....kung aalis man sila eh mag rereturn of the comeback din yan

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    relocate? wala yan ... taon-taon naman meron ganyan balita ... taon-taon din nababaha

    next year uli ganyan ang balita!


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    kaya minsan daw yun owner my insider sa loob ng squater taz sasadyain my iwanan nakasinding candle sa loob ng inuupahan bahay ayun sunog...

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