First time going to Baguio and Sagada driving a 4WD rig

[nicolodeon]

Mga masters, expert advice naman dyan.

It would be my first time next week to go to Baguio, then Sagada driving a 4WD vehicle. Bale route naming family, Baguio muna then to Sagada after one or two days. Balak ko is to pass through Marcos hi-way.

Now, since first timer ako using a 4WD vehicle, I was wondering sana if you guys can give me advice on when and where should I engage my 4WD system.

For example, on steep ascents sa Marcos, should I use 4L? Am I correct to assume na, if I do engage my 4WD, I have to stop, place my A/T stick on 'N', engage the 4WD system, then drive on?. To disengage, stop, place stick on 'N', disengage 4WD and do a reverse for several meters until I hear the hub-lock disengage. Am I right? When descending, what do I do?

On rough terrain going to Sagada, should I use 4L or 4H?

Any info or advice would really help me. Thanks in advance.

[luckytruck]

what 4WD vehicle are you using? it will give us an idea on the type of system you have.

andy

[nicolodeon]

We would actually be using two vehicles, both Delica Starwagon A/Ts.

[mbt]

what is your vehicle?

for part-time 4wd vehicles, 4H should only be engaged on loose or low-traction surfaces. this includes mud, rutted trails, clay, sand, etc... pwede na rin yung gravel and grass. on sealed surfaces, high-traction surfaces like pavement, DO NOT engage 4H or you may damage your drivetrain components and will have difficulty steering.

4L is meant for more difficult stuff like steep ascents and descents on low-traction surfaces, or stuff where you'll wonder if your vehicle can actually manage the terrain hehe. for gravel roads that are relatively flat or for gentle inclines, 4H will usually be sufficient. mabagal ang takbo ng sasakyan in 4L. for paved roads on steep hills, use 2H. on pavement, always use two-wheel drive. for alternating low-traction and sealed surfaces, switch to two-wheel drive on sealed surfaces.

when in 4L (i don't think you'll need to engage 4L for the trip youre planning), resist the temptation to ride the clutch (for a manual) and resist the temptation to overuse the brakes on descents (for a matic).

for full-time 4wd, e.g. Super Select 4wd of mitsubishi, i think you can manage the whole way without locking your center diff. but for sections where traction may be scarce, engaging the center diff lock gives the same effect as engaging 4H in a part-time vehicle.

[luckytruck]

super select ba ang delica?

andy

[nicolodeon]

Hindi po 'ata super select. Hindi sya full-time 4WD.

[garyq]

I can comment only on the Marcos Highway leg. No need to go 4WD for this part of your trip. I would turn OD off though or kung kakapusin pa shift from D to 2. Steep ascent lang naman diyan is after the tunnel. Hataw ka lang after the tunnel and the bridge, as in turn off A/C then go fast. Aabot ka nun sa taas. Pag kinapos shift down sa 2 which is ok 'til 80-100kph. Enjoy and balitaan mo kami. 4d56 ba yan na auto? (auto tranny pala in-assume ko)

[nicolodeon]

Yep. 4d56 na A/T. Thanks for the info.

[FrankDrebin]

Baka kaya naman ng 4x2? Kasi kung yung mga Sarao at mga taga-roon naka-kotse pa yung iba eh kayang-kaya eh.

[jim]

Sa Marcos no prob sa mga 4x2 Diesels. Lalo na sa 4x4. Dati L300 dala namin fully loaded kayang-kaya.

[20vanda01]

Marcos hi-way nga kinaya ng lite ace ko dati, with 6 people and bags. What more of a diesel 4x4 rig?

OT:
Honestly, hindi ba talaga kaya ng 4x2 coming from Baguio to Sagada? Let's say mga AUV?

[amboy]

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Honestly, hindi ba talaga kaya ng 4x2 coming from Baguio to Sagada? Let's say mga AUV?[/QUOTE]

kayang kaya ng 4x2 from baguio to sagada. advantage lang 4x4 going to sagada if its raining and the road is wet, kasi when you reach the mt. province portion of the road na, it's 95% unpaved so if its raining you'll be driving in mud.... literally.

[nicolodeon]

Thanks for all the info. Much appreciated!!! Balitaan ko kayo kung ano nang-yari. Panibagong experience na naman no. Yahoo!

[vinj]

Manila - Baguio: Mo problem with that as long as you know how to use your gears properly and don't get scared of revving to the higher rev range. If you're driving a matic, make use of manual shifting to the lower gears or turn the o/d off, especially when you're on a descent.

Baguio - Sagada: 4x2's can hack the trip, especially now that it's dry season. Maybe the most you'll be using would be 4WD high if you encounter loose gravel/slippery portions.

I'd be concerened more with the condition of your rides, especially since the vehicles concerned are RHD converted units. Make sure your suspension and other parts are up to the task... The Baguio - Sagada route can be quite bumpy.

Check all your fluid levels (change oil?), brakes, check/replace your fan belts, clean the air filters, check your tires and your spare, bring a good/strong tow rope... if you have none, you can buy one along the way in one of those surplus shops in Mabalacat, Pampanga.

Happy motoring.

[4xfoot]

try to check you're spare tires... mabato ang daan sa sagada...

[garyq]

things i do when going on a long trip: check all belts(palit or i always have spares with me), extreme tape for hoses na baka mag leak, spare tyre (repair kit kung biglang mabutasan), all liquids(brake fluid, atf, coolant), spare bulbs (especially headlight and brake lamps), spanners and drivers, flashlights. I do this as my ride is also ex-rhd so better safe than sorry.

[amboy]

Mga masters, expert advice naman dyan.

It would be my first time next week to go to Baguio, then Sagada driving a 4WD vehicle. Bale route naming family, Baguio muna then to Sagada after one or two days. Balak ko is to pass through Marcos hi-way.

Now, since first timer ako using a 4WD vehicle, I was wondering sana if you guys can give me advice on when and where should I engage my 4WD system.

For example, on steep ascents sa Marcos, should I use 4L? Am I correct to assume na, if I do engage my 4WD, I have to stop, place my A/T stick on 'N', engage the 4WD system, then drive on?. To disengage, stop, place stick on 'N', disengage 4WD and do a reverse for several meters until I hear the hub-lock disengage. Am I right? When descending, what do I do?

On rough terrain going to Sagada, should I use 4L or 4H?

Any info or advice would really help me. Thanks in advance.

no need to engage your 4wd going up to marcos hi way (or kennon rd/naguillan road for that matter). going up marcos hi way on 4x2 only is more than sufficient.

going to sagada however, if its not raining and the road is dry no need to engage your 4wd also, 4x2 is more than sufficient. if it's raining however and the road is wet, you'll find going on 4H would be helpful specially the mt. province side of the road as its 95% unpaved up to sagada. just remember to bring tools and spare of everything as there's no one that can help you there should you run into car trouble.

hope this helps.

[bad driver]

guys,

using an AT on downhills....

my dad tells me that I should put the tranny to a lower gear (d2 or sa Invecs 2, second gear) para tumulong ang engine breaking para di kami mahulog sa bangin

Is this the proper way or should I leave the AT alone and just use the breaks to control my speed...? ok na ata mapudpod breaks ko than gastado ang tranny dba?


thanks

[amboy]

guys,

using an AT on downhills....

my dad tells me that I should put the tranny to a lower gear (d2 or sa Invecs 2, second gear) para tumulong ang engine breaking para di kami mahulog sa bangin

Is this the proper way or should I leave the AT alone and just use the breaks to control my speed...? ok na ata mapudpod breaks ko than gastado ang tranny dba?


thanks

yes you can leave ur gear on D and just use your brake to control your descent, however this is not advisable. if you use your brake too often on downhill drive, your brake pads will heat up and you will slowly loose stopping power on your brake. in severe casis, you might actually loose brake power completely. So down shift when you go downhill to assist your brake. this is true for M/T or A/T. Don't worry about over revving your engine or stressing out your A/T gear as A/T are designed to shift higher (e.g. from 2 to D) once it senses unusually high rev on certain gear. hope this helps.

[mbt]

depends how long the downhill stretch is

kung maiksi lang, like city streets, okay naman yung brake-controlled descent

pero kung ilang kilometro yung pababa, tulad ng pababa ng baguio, di naman pwedeng naka-preno ka the whole way, sunog brakes mo nyan. 3rd gear or 2nd gear ka niyan mostly, depending on the road. syempre, that doesnt mean that you dont use your brakes to control your descent even with some engine braking assistance