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    mga sir,may nabili ako elf na computer box,4hg1,bigla nalakas menor pag naka neutral,pag naka kambyo bigla na lng nakadyot,may naka pagkwento sa akin pwede daw pa convert sa manual,posible ba yon?ano po gagawin para maging manual na?thanks!!!

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    I don't profess to be an expert, but AFAIK for that to happen, you will have to change the injection pump to its mechanical type counterpart, most likely among other things too. Have you tried fixing the idling problem? A Bosch or Denso accredited diesel center should be helpful if your friendly neighborhood mechanic comes up empty. It might even be cheaper than converting to an inferior mechanical pump.

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    dito kasi ko sa majayjay laguna sir,medyo malayo,try ko tanong sa nagcarlan,dami naman assemble jeep don,baka kaya nila.ala kaya epekto sa performance ng makina pag pina manual?

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    pwede gawin manual yan may kinakatay din ung kapitbahay namin na ganyan matic pinapalitan ng manual tanny

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    manual po transmission nya,ang convert eh yong makina

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    Quote Originally Posted by yobo View Post
    manual po transmission nya,ang convert eh yong makina
    alam ko yung idling nyan control by computer box and meron din mga temperature sensor. hindi ko pa naencounter magconvert nyan kasi even injection pump controlled ng computer din

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    Quote Originally Posted by yobo View Post
    dito kasi ko sa majayjay laguna sir,medyo malayo,try ko tanong sa nagcarlan,dami naman assemble jeep don,baka kaya nila.ala kaya epekto sa performance ng makina pag pina manual?
    I have never heard of people converting a 4HG1 from electronic to mechanical, though I have heard of this being done with the 4JG2 and the 1KZ-TE. Assuming you were able to successfully convert it to mechanical pump, expect a power decrease, higher emissions and most likely louder engine noise and higher fuel consumption.

    For such problems, I normally consult Central Diesel. You can first call them or chat with them on Facebook to see if they can fix the problem without doing any conversions. I highly recommend them over doing a conversion, which can be hit and miss and definitely very costly.

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    san po shop ng central diesel?

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    Quezon Ave beside Capitol Medical Center. If you're coming from far away, it would be wise to call first.

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    thanks sir,try muna ako dito sa mga malalapit,nakakatakot ilayo elf,baka mag ala montero,hehehe,bigla kasi nadamba pag sinumpong..

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    Any shop naman siguro na merong computer diagnostics tool. Good if there are any nearby your location. Maybe you can even bring it to an Isuzu dealership if you want.

    Idling lang naman problema mo diba at wala nang iba? Gano karami ba ang tinataas kapag nakaneutral, at ano ba ang normal na idling niya?

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    opo,yong bigla lng nataas idle nya,check ko bukas kung ilan normal at kung ilan tinataas,pwede din ba dalhin sa isuzu dealership kahit sa subic galin ang elf,ayon sa unang may ari?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yobo View Post
    opo,yong bigla lng nataas idle nya,check ko bukas kung ilan normal at kung ilan tinataas,pwede din ba dalhin sa isuzu dealership kahit sa subic galin ang elf,ayon sa unang may ari?
    Locally available naman ang Elf na 4HG1, so they should be able to look at it. I don't know if they would be willing to do so, though some casas do accept servicing gray market imports. It is still money after all. If they do, you may have to pay extra though. Wala namang kawalan magtanong, perhaps you can drop by and inquire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yobo View Post
    opo,yong bigla lng nataas idle nya,check ko bukas kung ilan normal at kung ilan tinataas,pwede din ba dalhin sa isuzu dealership kahit sa subic galin ang elf,ayon sa unang may ari?
    second hand kasi yan then ilan owner na pinagdaanan nyan. Me posibilidad na luto na iba wiring nyan, problema mahirap itrace yan dapat need mo scanner pra makita error at dapat din me error reader ka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS12 View Post
    second hand kasi yan then ilan owner na pinagdaanan nyan. Me posibilidad na luto na iba wiring nyan, problema mahirap itrace yan dapat need mo scanner pra makita error at dapat din me error reader ka.

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    oo nga sir,kasi nung minsan,inaayos ko mga wiring sa tabi ng makina,bigla namatay makina,pero start din naman agad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yobo View Post
    oo nga sir,kasi nung minsan,inaayos ko mga wiring sa tabi ng makina,bigla namatay makina,pero start din naman agad.
    Problema din kc pag pinalitan mo yung mga connector nyan iba iba lalo na pagdating sa computer box

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    oo nga sir,hirap pala pag computer box,medyo maselan,nung una,mag pass light sana ako,ang naitaas ko ay yong sa wiper,umilaw yong exhaust brake,pag nag menor,kusa namemreno elf...

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    Kelangan talaga dito yung diagnostics tool. Mahirap na mag DIY di tulad ng mga sinaunang modelo.

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    kung sa province ka hahanap ka ng me diagnostic tool mahirap minsan kasi hindi match sa computer box nung unit. Pag nde na mabasa talaga baka computer box na palitan mo.

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    Best bet talaga ang Denso or Bosch diesel center. Kung hindi naman titirik ang truck, best to give it a go.

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