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**woodfire** · June 1st, 2003 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by vinj

According to some Nissan peeps... it'll be starting at 1.1M roughly for the 2.0 4x2 a/t model. The 2.5L 4x4 will be in the 1.3+M range. I have no clear cut idea on the impact of the new tax laws should it be implemented but i'm guessing that the 2.5L model price could get lower slightly at the least.

can nissan sell the bolt-on factory-supercharger to the 2.5 version? in the u.s., the x-trail has an optional supercharger.

**OTEP** · June 1st, 2003 10:20 PM

woodfire,
Yung X-TERRA ang may supercharger sa U.S. It uses the 3.0L V6 that used to power Pathfinders.

Wala pa yatang X-trail sa USDM.

gretzy,
May image problem ata yung mga kakilala ko. Or masyado lang silang sosyal. Hehehe.

**gretzy** · June 1st, 2003 10:34 PM

OTEP, approx. how much is the carnival? di ba sirain ang starex?

**OTEP** · June 2nd, 2003 12:01 AM

gretzy,
Carnivals are around Php 1.1M. Better ask the Carnival Cult here. Hehehe. Dalawa ang trim levels niya. Regular RS and upmarket LS. Mas loaded ang LS pero far from bare ang RS.

Hyundais have made significant improvements in quality over the past few years. Although not up to Toyota or Honda levels, expect ownership to be a relatively benign experience. The Starex is basically a mechanical clone of the Space Gear (due to the Mitsu-Hyundai partnership back in the day). It will accept Mitsubishi parts and can be serviced by the Mitsubishi people.

3 years warranty naman siya for peace of mind.

But the Carnival is more car like in every aspect. Mas maganda ang ride and ang comfort levels since hindi truck design ang pang-ilalim ng Carnival.

**gretzy** · June 2nd, 2003 12:17 AM

OTEP, gusto ko sana si papa na magbasa dito, kaya langbaka mapunta syang pitstop, lagot ako. :mrgreen:

maganda nga din carnival.

**OTEP** · June 2nd, 2003 12:25 AM

gretzy,
You can always print this.

hehehe.

**gretzy** · June 2nd, 2003 12:57 AM

oo nga naman. :D thanks!

**vinj** · June 2nd, 2003 01:09 AM

I'm not so familiar with the USDM models that Nissan has (have not been reading too much US Magazines anymore due to the cost) but from what i know, its the Frontier/Xterra platform that has a supercharged engine (3.5L V6?)... Sana nga totoo yung narinig ko na rumor in Nissanbayan that the 350Z will be released here.

The Carnival is one heavy bugger... I read in C&D (CARandDRIVER) before that its really much heavier then the other minivans in the US. I guess this was the reason why the matic models experiences a lag when accelerating from standstill... Once its running, ayus na yung performance (sibak yung Frontier ko

)... the weight would also mean that the car could feel more stable at high speeds as well. What just bothers me about the Carnival is that i see some new units that emit black smoke when accelerating.

One thing you should do is to do some dealer-hopping to get specs, see the cars, and even arrange for a test drive if possible... this will help you in deciding what ride to get.

On AUVs and some Pinoys who wouldnt be caught dead in them... thats quite an image problem on their part i guess. :? I myself would not mind having a diesel Revo in my garage.

Why dont you make a powerpoint or flash presentation when you talk to your dad about the car choices? Make sure its complete with graphs, projected maintainance costs, and resale value after several years... hehe :D

**OTEP** · June 2nd, 2003 01:37 AM

The Carnival is heavy and slow by US standards.

But so would be the case of the Space Gear, Starex and even the Venture.

Kia used proven SUV techinques (steel reinforcements, etc.) to achieve a rigid and rattle free body.

And yes, a Carnival will eat my truck on every measure of speed.

**wolfpack** · June 2nd, 2003 08:16 AM

Resale value and reliability TOYOTA Hi-ace but yes its a bit to big for a family of 5

Size wise the Mini SUV's wont be ideal for out of town trips Because of thier size.

Nissan's are quite expensive to maintain

Best compromise long term usage, Get the Toyota Hiace. if "form" is a consideration The GM Venture is your best bet. Other wise a 4x2 Pajero is the closest i can think of for your requirements (if you have no plans of running on muddy surfaces)

**gretzy** · June 2nd, 2003 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by vinj

Why dont you make a powerpoint or flash presentation when you talk to your dad about the car choices? Make sure its complete with graphs, projected maintainance costs, and resale value after several years... hehe :D

Actually im planning to. :mrgreen:

Some car dealers here in bicol called them up n are asking them to test drive some of their new models, maybe nextweek, i hope they'll come up with a decision then. :wink:

**wolfpack** · June 2nd, 2003 08:18 AM

OOOpps consider a 4x2 Expedition..........

**kimpOy** · June 2nd, 2003 09:30 AM

a family of five, cruisng around the metro sedona gets my vote
but a little adventure from time to time, 4x4 patrol is for me

**mikey177** · June 2nd, 2003 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by gretzy

how much is the carnival?

Carnival Sedona RS --> P905,000 M/T
Carnival Sedona LS --> P1,115,000 A/T

The RS lacks the sunroof, air bags, ABS, and CD changer, but I've never regretted choosing it over the LS. Besides, I don't have a million bucks to spare for a van

One problem I foresee, if your folks opt to get the Sedona is that I'm not aware of any Kia dealers in the Bicol area. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Regarding the black smoke... yes, I also experienced that when my Sedona was about two months old... nakakahiya humataw sa hiway during that time. But I brought it to the casa and told them about the problem during my 5,000-km PMS, and they made some adjustments... also told me to have the air filter cleaned/replaced periodically as this is one cause of incomplete combustion. Ngayon, ok na ako humataw sa hiway... problema lang, puro lubak na naman ang NLEX

**gretzy** · June 2nd, 2003 11:19 AM

la nga kia dealers here. but they often go to manila to visit me. ok pala carnival. :wink:

maganda din pala venture, saw their ad.

**papa tots** · June 2nd, 2003 12:52 PM

if the existing tax system is applied on the x-trail, the prices would be somewhere around ...

4x2 2.0L 1.175M
4x4 2.0L 1.325M
4x4 2.5L 1.4M

**gretzy** · June 2nd, 2003 05:40 PM

papa tots, prices yan ng sedona?

**kiper** · June 2nd, 2003 07:25 PM

gretzy,

crosswind XUVi na lang kasi..!!

un maganda pa un..!!

may videoke pa sa loob..pwede ka nila tulugan sa long drive..!!:mrgreen:

**Kennon_road** · June 2nd, 2003 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by gretzy

bulldog, nagandahan nga mom ko dun, and mas mura pa sa CRV nasa 1.1M daw. :D

ang gulo ng isip nila! :mrgreen:

wow mura 1.1 ah :wink: , go for starex 2000 up model, eksaktong eksakto to sa family. Pero ok din siguro CRV, kaya pala nagtatanong ka kay dayunyor ng presyo nung crv, pareho tayo, balak kung palitan sedan namin to CRV, pero mukhang sa starex ang final choice ko, unless babaan ni dayunyor yung price he he :D

**gretzy** · June 3rd, 2003 09:50 AM

pumunta kaming resort kagabi, overnyt, kunwari konti lang dadalhin namin ng sisters ko, kaya kotse lang dala, nung paalis na, binaba na namin mga dadalhin naming pillkows, naloka si papa, hassle ng maglipat ng gamit sa van. :mrgreen: kaya, magdedecide na sila dis weekend, naibida ko na tuloy sa kanya mga suggestions nyo, bili na ata sa weekend. :lol:

thanks guys! :wink:

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