Glow Plugs(White and Blue smoke)

**pparado** · January 12th, 2005 01:13 AM

rediesel: nagpalit kasi ako ng glowplugs sa 4d56t a few months ago, because of hard-starting...

but, prior to that...starting was one-click! kahit sa umaga, sa cool weather ng Baguio...

after replacing the glowplugs with something that cost ard Php 180.00 each, one-click starting na even in the mornings.
Pero, just a week had passed and bumalik na naman sa hard starting (in the mornings) pag napatakbo na ang makina, one click naman na sya throughout the rest of the day. And then the hard starting issue resumes in the morning after the engine has 'slept' overnight.

pinalitan ko ulit ng glowplugs dahil nga sa nagkaganun ulit...might the glowplugs be of inferior quality?

mayroon kayang glowplugs that are better than others? or that is 'compatible' with the 4d56t?

I will also take a look then at the relays as per: KCBoy

AC · January 12th, 2005 01:32 AM

ganyan din po prob ko.. 4d56... but.. ndi ko na uli pinalitan.. magastos eh.. ngayon ino-on ko nalang heater 5x.. ok lang kaya yun?

**paj4x4** · January 12th, 2005 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by pparado

rediesel: nagpalit kasi ako ng glowplugs sa 4d56t a few months ago, because of hard-starting...

but, prior to that...starting was one-click! kahit sa umaga, sa cool weather ng Baguio...

after replacing the glowplugs with something that cost ard Php 180.00 each, just a week had passed and bumalik na naman sa hard starting (in the mornings) pag napatakbo na ang makina, one click naman na sya throughout the rest of the day. And then the hard starting issue resumes in the morning after the engine has 'slept' overnight.

pinalitan ko ulit ng glowplugs dahil nga sa nagkaganun ulit...

mayroon kayang glowplugs that are better than others? or that is 'compatible' with the 4d56t?

I will also take a look then at the relays as per: KCBoy

pparado,

i suggest you get the your glow plugs from el dorado or atco. if i remember correctly a piece sells for at least over P500. i had the glow plugs of my gen 1 paj changed last year and i have never encountered this hard starting problem...even in the morning and even in the morning in baguio.

the glow plugs from el dorado are more expensive but it'll definitely give you peace of mind - one click palagi.

paj4x4

**Rediesel** · January 12th, 2005 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by pparado

rediesel: nagpalit kasi ako ng glowplugs sa 4d56t a few months ago, because of hard-starting...

but, prior to that...starting was one-click! kahit sa umaga, sa cool weather ng Baguio...

after replacing the glowplugs with something that cost ard Php 180.00 each, one-click starting na even in the mornings.
Pero, just a week had passed and bumalik na naman sa hard starting (in the mornings) pag napatakbo na ang makina, one click naman na sya throughout the rest of the day. And then the hard starting issue resumes in the morning after the engine has 'slept' overnight.

pinalitan ko ulit ng glowplugs dahil nga sa nagkaganun ulit...might the glowplugs be of inferior quality?

mayroon kayang glowplugs that are better than others? or that is 'compatible' with the 4d56t?

I will also take a look then at the relays as per: KCBoy

Did you change all 4 ?

Baguio cold weather, use your heater x2 what I mean is heat it after the pilot light turns off do not start heat it again, after the pilot turns off then start, surely start yan.

Eldorado OEM yan, kung gusto mo hanap ka na lang sa Masangkay o Benavidez, makakakita ka ng OEM pero medyo mababa presyo.

**Belisarius** · January 12th, 2005 02:12 AM

Here's my two cents worth, the white smoke is usually present during start up and sometimes if the weather is cold, up to engine reaching operating temperature, and black smoke if put in the wrong gear like slow speeding up using too high a gear like that driver of mine. My 1995 hiace with 84k km starts with one click after the preheat light goes out, never changed the glow plugs yet.

**pparado** · January 12th, 2005 02:19 AM

paj4x4,

guess that is what i wanted to hear!

I have heard that there are glowplugs that are more expensive than others...pero alin kaya ang gamit ng mga tsikoteers sa kanilang 4d56t....(do you have a brand name for these?) i am in baguio kasi e...

maraming salamat!

Rediesel,
yes, I changed all 4 at the same time (on both occassions)

I will try your suggestion re: heating. wala nga lang yata yung pilot light sa akin...i hear a 'tik' after a few seconds of switching the car on...then that is when i crank the engine...(yun siguro yun ano?) I will try yung 2x na sinabi mo...

tenk yu din po

**paj4x4** · January 12th, 2005 02:28 AM

el dorado carries OEM stuff - MMC. they rarely suggest a replacement part...pag la na stock sa mitsu plant ng OEM

**Doc Diesel** · January 12th, 2005 07:56 AM

based on our calibration experience....

white smoke can be caused by a cold engine not reaching yet its normal operating temperature or an improperly calibrated nozzle tip inside your injector.

blue smoke can be caused by a good nozzle tip but it maybe the wrong part meaning incompatible [e.g. 2C nozzle used in 4D56] which may give a wrong spray pattern altering the engine's running condition.

try the plugs din, if it doesn't work then check your injectors.

**Field Master** · January 12th, 2005 03:58 PM

Doc Diesel: Medyo OT: I have my 4 injectors nozzle replaced at your shop last August 2004 as the spray pattern is out of spec already. I just observed last week that the second nozzle assembly (parts screwed on top of engine block)is wet with engine oil. Apparently the oil is coming out from the thread between assembly and engine block. Is this a cause of concern or a minor job of tightening the assembly will do the trick? My ride is 2.8 A/T FieldMaster.

**jim** · January 12th, 2005 04:06 PM

kung one-click sya dati baka yung voltage nung ipinalit mong glow plugs mas mataas kesa sa original. check the voltage load of your relay. dapat match ang voltage load nun dun sa voltage ng glow plugs mo.