Extending Shackle Length for Lifting Rear

[Engr]

I've read this from http://www.warfs.org/content/view/20/51/
A site for Daihatsu

A good budget way to get some more height in the rear is to fit a set of Longer Shackles - these can either be custom made fairly cheaply or a set from a similar 4wd may fit if you look hard enough ( Jeep YJ front shackles can fit I believe - make sure you get some measurements first though ! ) Do not go more than a 100mm ( 4 inch ) longer shackle - better still keep it to about 50mm ( 2 inches ) longer to be safe. A 50mm longer shackle will give you 25mm ( 1 inch ) lift. ( ie: total lift is half of the extra shackle length ). You will also need longer shocks to suit.

I have a Mit. Adventure, applicable ba ito sa ride ko?

Thanks.

[paj4x4]

If your rig has leaf springs then it will be applicable. Keep in mind that you may have to get longer dampers to compensate for the lift.

[Engr]

If your rig has leaf springs then it will be applicable. Keep in mind that you may have to get longer dampers to compensate for the lift.

Ano po yung dampers? Ano itsura nito?

[paj4x4]

Ano po yung dampers? Ano itsura nito?

Shock absorbers.

[Engr]

nabasa ko kasi sa website na ito: http://www.barneymc.com/toy_root/tec...n/shackles.htm

may isa na nagsasabi na:

I still feel that if you lift a truck with a 2" longer shackle, the truck
isn't lifted a full two inches. It may not be exactly 1/2 that, but it
will only be about 1-1.3" higher.

FWIW, I used a 3"(longer than stock) shackle on my 88 4Runner and my
lift was exactly 2".

The others argument of shackle length = 1/2 lift height gained does not
truly equate on Toyota springs because the axle is not in the middle of
springs but the length=1/2 lift gained is a good rule of thumb in most
cases.

ayaw ko kasing lumampas sa 2inches ang lift. any comments based on your experiences?

[quiksie]

nag shackles lift na din ako on my frontier. Pwede po Engr yun sa adventure. My cousin tried it na. Mura lang po ang shackle lift.

[Engr]

nag shackles lift na din ako on my frontier. Pwede po Engr yun sa adventure. My cousin tried it na. Mura lang po ang shackle lift.

ilang inches ang ihinaba niya from stock? ilang inch ang na-lift sa rear mo?

[quiksie]

Engr mga 1.5 lang siguro ang tinaas or an inch. Hindi ko nasukat yun dati pero noticable yun lift kasi compared sa height ko dati mas tumaas. Tapos torsion crank nalang sa harapan.
My cousins adventure lift is 1 inch sa likod putol springs sa harap ng 1.25" parang nakasubsob ang adventure niya.

[Engr]

salamat po sa mga replies niyo.

may additional questions lang ako:

kung mag li lift ako ng 1.5" or 2";

kailangan bang i-maintain ko yung dating angle of the of the pinion flange or hayaan ko na lang?

yung "Load Sensing Proportioning Valve" (LSPV) kailangan ko din ba itaas?

[Ungas]

...kailangan bang i-maintain ko yung dating angle of the of the pinion flange or hayaan ko na lang?

yung "Load Sensing Proportioning Valve" (LSPV) kailangan ko din ba itaas?...

Yung pinion flange -- propeller shaft angle pwedeng as-is-where-is. Since crossjoint angles can accomodate lifts upto 70mm. Lalo na kung longer wheelbase, di gaanong apektado ang angles.

Pero yung LSPV kelangan adjust 70-80% of your total settled height. Kung di ito adjusted, rear brakes will apply normal braking pressure even if the vehicle is loaded since the spring which should adjust the sensor doesn't have that much yank than it used to.

[alwayz_yummy]

my delica was lifted 2 inches more..in the rear, i used that kind of method...i change the shackle for a longer one..but, te shackle kinda protrudes in the rear(beacuse the shackle i use can be +0, +2, and +4 inches

so far, for my 2 inch up, i didint changed my shocks.

[Engr]

my delica was lifted 2 inches more..in the rear, i used that kind of method...i change the shackle for a longer one..but, te shackle kinda protrudes in the rear(beacuse the shackle i use can be +0, +2, and +4 inches

so far, for my 2 inch up, i didint changed my shocks.

wala ka nang ibang ginawa to avoid changing the angle of the of the pinion flange? wala bang vibrations sa driveline/driveshaft mo?

may LSPV ba Delica?

[alwayz_yummy]

wala ka nang ibang ginawa to avoid changing the angle of the of the pinion flange? wala bang vibrations sa driveline/driveshaft mo?

may LSPV ba Delica?

sir sa 2 inch up ko, sa front obiviosly, i re-aligned the camber, toe, caster alignment....

sa rear, i just changed the shackle...that all...i didnt change other than this....

i think the stock delica under parts is adjusted to accomodate up to 2 inches... maybe if i use the 4 inch setting, then it would be a problem...

i didint recieved any vibration of any kind...and it gave me a good ride height, a more "elf-truck" ride height to be exact..the only slight difference it makes is the way you ride up....the stepboards are more useful now than it was stock..but right now(from july2-13, 2005) i find my lift as inconvenient..for my left ankle is sprained becuse of a common house accident:the stairs.

sir, dont know kung may lspv ung delica ko......pero teka, anu nga pala ung "LSPV"

[quiksie]

engr kailangan mo din mag pa aline ng gulong after the lifts

[OTEP]

Longer shackles are manufactured by Jewel's in Malabon. They are the shop that did my lamp stay.

02 2884340 look for linda.

But I do have to warn you that Jewel's does charge a premium for the quality of work they do.

[Engr]

quiksie, alwayz_yummy, salamat sa mga feedbacks nyo.

from http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/Shackles.shtml

the rear axle has a "Load Sensing Proportioning Valve" (LSPV) that attaches to the rear axle to sense the ride height and by inference, the load or weight on the rear axle. It uses this "Load Sense" to adjust the front-rear brake pressure "proportioning" to keep the brakes balanced. With a rear axle shackle lift, for each inch of lift, you'll want to adjust the LSPV upward 1" to compensate for the lift. If not done, the LSPV "thinks" there is less load in the rear of the truck and it reduces the rear brake pressure.

otep, any idea kung magkano ang +3" na shackles?

thanks everyone.

[alwayz_yummy]

ur welcome...

i think wala naman delica ku nun...kasi pareho naman ang braking power parin,e...

gud luck nalang din!

[OTEP]

May LSPV ang Delica. It's the thingie with the springie coming from the rear axle. Unless hindi na kinabit ulit ng nag-convert. LSPV's are pretty much a standard thing on trucks and commercial vehicles.

Engr,
Tawag ka na lang sa kanila. Tapos na kasi ang project ko with them kaya hindi ako nakakadalaw. hehehe.

[alwayz_yummy]

sir otep, i'll look at it...parang meron ngang ganyan ung van.

[alwayz_yummy]

sir ungas,

panu po ma-adjust po un?sisilipin ko pag ok na paa ko..