Crash test comparo MINI vs F 150

[Rediesel]

http://www.bridger.us/2002/12/16/Cra...perVsFordF150/

[ILuvDetailing]

HS! tibay ng mini... though as nails

[odell]

sarap ng naka mini... how about un lumang mini? :D

[ts1n1ta]

hmm very disturbing i knew it nde worth ang f150.
*remembers vandolph's f150*

[odell]

i remember that.. hai.. kawawa naman un gf niya nun..

[mbt]

i think the article and the comments after it are a tiny, tiny bit misleading

1) that F150 was a new design for *1997*, whereas the mini is a recent design especially engineered to meet stricter, more recent crash safety standards. it would be unfair to say that ford neglected to engineer the crash characteristics of the F150 properly, as the IIHS test is not a federal standard test.

2) the 40-mph offset-frontal barrier crash test is NOT an official federal requirement; it is a test conducted by the IIHS, not the NHTSA. the previous-gen F150 satisfies the federal standards for full-frontal (as opposed to offset, which is more punishing to the vehicle structure since the force of the impact is concentrated on a smaller area) crash safety

that said, the F150 is really a scary place to be in if you happen to crash into a tree hehe. however, it also correctly points out that if the F150 and the mini were to crash head-on, the mini would be a total wreck while the F150 would have nothing more than a torn bumper

[notEworthy27]

that said, the F150 is really a scary place to be in if you happen to crash into a tree hehe. however, it also correctly points out that if the F150 and the mini were to crash head-on, the mini would be a total wreck while the F150 would have nothing more than a torn bumper

Tama!

[-emil-]

Tama!

Yes if you use the F150 as a shooting bullet. Not as a safe car to drive. hahaha peace man..

[ts1n1ta]

the F150 is really a scary place to be in if you happen to crash into a tree hehe...

hehehe op kors that's what i meant. Kaya wag na lang sha bangga sa tree... eh? hehehe

[mazdamazda]

i think the article and the comments after it are a tiny, tiny bit misleading

1) that F150 was a new design for *1997*, whereas the mini is a recent design especially engineered to meet stricter, more recent crash safety standards. it would be unfair to say that ford neglected to engineer the crash characteristics of the F150 properly, as the IIHS test is not a federal standard test.

2) the 40-mph offset-frontal barrier crash test is NOT an official federal requirement; it is a test conducted by the IIHS, not the NHTSA. the previous-gen F150 satisfies the federal standards for full-frontal (as opposed to offset, which is more punishing to the vehicle structure since the force of the impact is concentrated on a smaller area) crash safety

that said, the F150 is really a scary place to be in if you happen to crash into a tree hehe. however, it also correctly points out that if the F150 and the mini were to crash head-on, the mini would be a total wreck while the F150 would have nothing more than a torn bumper

good points...

Update 2: Ford has redesigned the F150 for 2004 with an notable advances with regards to safety. In fact the IIHS had named the new F150 a "Best Pick" in the large truck category. Now granted this doesn't change the fact that Ford designed and released the previous generation of F150s knowing there were safety concerns. Further it doesn't change any of the statistics showing larger vehicles cause more havoc on the roads. But it does show that Ford clearly understood the issues with the previous generation and worked hard to alleviate them.

there's a problem with this statement... are they trying to pin Ford for previous generation F-150s? if that's the case, why not ALL manufacturers and not just Ford?

[explorer]

on vandolp's f150 issue....imagine nyo nalang kung ibang sasakyan gamit ni vandolp nun naaksidente sila versus the truck full of cement, both running at high speed at head on collision pa!....blame the f150 for making vandolp still alive (...to make him continue doing all his stup!dity)

again, f150 is the best selling pickup (..and automobile) every year for more than 27 years already. more than 800,000 units are sold every year for more than 10 years already..the americans must be id!ots if they continue buying a pickup which they think inferior to other vehicles when it comes to safety.

[-emil-]

again, f150 is the best selling pickup (..and automobile) every year for more than 27 years already. more than 800,000 units are sold every year for more than 10 years already..the americans must be id!ots if they continue buying a pickup which they think inferior to other vehicles when it comes to safety.

They would not have invaded Iraq (for oil) and afganistan (for gas pipes) if they are not. Peace man. Keep your cool. The picture speaks a million disadvantages for F150.

[alwayz_yummy]

pero sa tests and shown, i would like in a mini than the goliath f-150..

pero,most accidents in the road are against an off-set object...very rare whom will hit a wall...

as for frontal between the 2,obviously the f-150 will run over the mini...paran tao lang yan,sini ba mananalo sa bunguan...bata o middle-age?

[notEworthy27]

dapat siguro palitan ng aftermarket bumpers.

[gearspeed]

wow ang tibay ng mini cooper..

[carlocaraddict]

whoa! mini is so tough!

[explorer]

http://www.bridger.us/2002/12/16/Cra...perVsFordF150/

that link is showing the total deaths per models, but it doesn't statistically show the percentage per volume sold. if i compute it right:

Toyota Avalon - 60 deaths (least deaths, but is that the safest?)
Ford F-Series - 238 deaths (most number of deaths, but is that the unsafest?)

let's see....there's no number of accidents per model recorded, so we have no choice but use the number of units sold per model:

toyota avalon - 30,000 units sold per year (my best guess, but i would beat it can hardly reach that figure)

ford f150 - 800,000 units sold per year

given the above data:

toyota avalon - 60 deaths / 30,000 units sold = 0.002 or 0.2%
ford f150 - 238 deaths / 800,000 units sold = 0.0002975 or 0.02975%

...so the ford f150 is 10 times safer (0.02975% vs. 0.2%) than the toyota avalon (which has the least number of deaths) if computed based on the number of units used (sold) assuming all the units sold have accidents and those presented deaths are true.

[niky]

that link is showing the total deaths per models, but it doesn't statistically show the percentage per volume sold. if i compute it right:

Toyota Avalon - 60 deaths (least deaths, but is that the safest?)
Ford F-Series - 238 deaths (most number of deaths, but is that the unsafest?)

let's see....there's no number of accidents per model recorded, so we have no choice but use the number of units sold per model:

toyota avalon - 30,000 units sold per year (my best guess, but i would beat it can hardly reach that figure)

ford f150 - 800,000 units sold per year

given the above data:

toyota avalon - 60 deaths / 30,000 units sold = 0.002 or 0.2%
ford f150 - 238 deaths / 800,000 units sold = 0.0002975 or 0.02975%

...so the ford f150 is 10 times safer (0.0975% vs. 0.2%) than the toyota avalon (which has the least number of deaths) if computed based on the number of units used (sold) assuming all the units sold have accidents and those presented deaths are true.

Good point.

[boybi]

that link is showing the total deaths per models, but it doesn't statistically show the percentage per volume sold. if i compute it right:

Toyota Avalon - 60 deaths (least deaths, but is that the safest?)
Ford F-Series - 238 deaths (most number of deaths, but is that the unsafest?)

let's see....there's no number of accidents per model recorded, so we have no choice but use the number of units sold per model:

toyota avalon - 30,000 units sold per year (my best guess, but i would beat it can hardly reach that figure)

ford f150 - 800,000 units sold per year

given the above data:

toyota avalon - 60 deaths / 30,000 units sold = 0.002 or 0.2%
ford f150 - 238 deaths / 800,000 units sold = 0.0002975 or 0.02975%

...so the ford f150 is 10 times safer (0.02975% vs. 0.2%) than the toyota avalon (which has the least number of deaths) if computed based on the number of units used (sold) assuming all the units sold have accidents and those presented deaths are true.

you must have missed to read this at the top of the chart:

"The numbers are expressed in fatalities per million cars, both for drivers of particular models and for the drivers of the cars they hit."

[explorer]

you must have missed to read this at the top of the chart:

"The numbers are expressed in fatalities per million cars, both for drivers of particular models and for the drivers of the cars they hit."

sorry, i missed that info. but nevertheless, f series (110 128 238) is not the worst if we really have to look at it because the number of fatalities on the driver of f series versus the driver of the vehicle hit is lower compared to the toyota Toyota Tacoma (111 59 171), Chevrolet Cavalier (146 41 186), Dodge Neon (161 39 199) and Pontiac Sunfire (158 44 202). also, remember that most buyers of f series are using their pickup to haul/carry heavy loads which make it even worse during the collision.