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**Doc Diesel** · July 22nd, 2003 02:41 PM

Have you ever experienced something like this:

1. When running 100 to 120kph, breaking down slowly to reduce speed will in turn make your vehicle shake as in shaking that the wiper blades also shake.

2. Squeaky fan belts.

3. Although making an 18 L/km, engine tends to respond late on stop and go like motion. I know it's and A/T but this is different.

Replies would be highly appreciated.

Doc Diesel

**BlackMagic** · July 22nd, 2003 03:28 PM

Havent experienced that with our car. ITs a Carnival M/T though.

**vinj** · July 22nd, 2003 06:55 PM

We dont have a Sedona but i've driven one before (2001 model, automatic)... I noticed that the engine really lags from when you accelerate from standstill. I think part of it could be due to the weight as I read before in C/D that the Sedona is quite heavy.

**mikey177** · July 23rd, 2003 12:00 PM

Nope, haven't experienced those conditions, but ours has a manual tranny too.

mk · July 23rd, 2003 12:32 PM

sa akin naman starex 99 a/t....mdyo similar ito sa carnival, ewan ko lang sa sedona na u.s made......same tayo sa breaks.... kapag 100 mph takbo mo lalo na sa highway....pag inapakan mo break pedal mangiginig talaga ang buong car.... i think this is normal due to the vans weight.

**mikey177** · July 23rd, 2003 03:09 PM

Originally posted by mk
sa akin naman starex 99 a/t....mdyo similar ito sa carnival, ewan ko lang sa sedona na u.s made......same tayo sa breaks.... kapag 100 mph takbo mo lalo na sa highway....pag inapakan mo break pedal mangiginig talaga ang buong car.... i think this is normal due to the vans weight.

100 mph = 166+ kph

man, given the condition of the NLEX, i never got my van to go that fast

**benchph1** · July 23rd, 2003 03:21 PM

carnival A/T , no shuddering when braking from 100 kph, average fuel consumption is 9-10 kilometers/liter, but my belts are squeaky when i start it the morning, once it has warmed up. wala na? anyway why did you ask?

**IJD180** · July 23rd, 2003 04:12 PM

00 carnival a/t 88,000

no squeaky belts (replaced at 65t km)
shuddering brakes only at really low speeds
consumption 10kpl highway 7kpl city

engine responds late if
(a.) You are used to a gasoline vehicle or
(b.) your air filter is really dirty and is clogged na. replace it na.

**benchph1** · July 23rd, 2003 09:26 PM

maybe doc diesel has a safety concern for us carnival/sedona owners. lets here him out.

**Ungas** · July 23rd, 2003 11:24 PM

Doc Diesel::: This may offer some kind of help:

1. Brake pads not balanced due to wear and tear. Does your unit have drum at the rear? If so, rear pads have tendencies of uneven wear resulting heavy vehicle shaking. Try to change brake pads. Or have the front discs check for any warp.

2. Squeaky fan belts, it maybe adjusted too tight for the belts or a pulley is misaligned.

3. Restricted stock filters? Too high back pressure from exhaust pipes? Wait a minute here... you were suppose to check the fuel delivery system at your shop right? :lol:

**Doc Diesel** · July 24th, 2003 02:10 PM

I'm doing this as a favor to a client. We've already checked the fuel system and even found out that it was below the specs. so we calibrated it.

yung braking, squeaky fan belts and late acceleration has been a nagging problem for this client of ours. he has gone back to the casa for countless times and still no remedy to the problems. In fact the squeaky fan belt came out after the casa did something on the engine that was not supposed to be done.

He's asking me to ask a few friends who has the same vehicle for opinions and or comments which might be useful for him.

Doc Diesel

**Ungas** · July 24th, 2003 02:20 PM

Base from my experience, brake shudder occurs on drum brakes when the upper part is thinner than the lower parts. Only solution is to change them or re-bond the pads. If the rears are on disc, culpirt would have to be the front discs, overheating could cause little warpage tht tend to shake the whole vehicle.

Baka po in-adjust ng casa yung belts, either too tight or too loose for the belt to get some grip on the pulleys. Try using ribbed belts or some belt grip type adhesives.

HTH :D

**wulf** · July 24th, 2003 03:08 PM

carnival 2000 matic, no to items 1 &2,#3 should be expectd, i guess, with a heavy, matic diesel van. solved mine by replacing air filter w/ k&n.it now accelerates like a gas-powered,manual sedan

**OTEP** · July 24th, 2003 11:38 PM

Brake shudder can also occur if your rotors are warped. And it being a Kia, medyo madali mag-warp ang rotors niyan. I warped mine in a year.

**IJD180** · July 25th, 2003 12:04 PM

wulf,

post ka naman ng pic ng kia mong na naka K&N

Ijd180

**kimpOy** · July 25th, 2003 12:38 PM

Late acceleration baka naman barado lang ang ..........mental block! argh! yung tip ni kupaloids arghhh!

**wulf** · July 27th, 2003 08:08 PM

IJD180

sori ha, dont know how e. pano ba?

**altec** · August 9th, 2003 04:05 AM

2003 Sedona LS manual, 2 months pa lang pero after reading yung problem ng client ni doc diesel, worried na ako. So far, minor problems pa lang ang experience ko, like misaligned arm rest, defective ash tray cover, weak foot brake.

**mikey177** · August 12th, 2003 11:24 AM

hi altec.

come to think of it, my foot brake was also weak when i first got the unit from the factory... mahina yung kapit pag downhill yung parada ko. had it adjusted at the casa during my first PMS, and its been all right ever since.

**altec** · August 12th, 2003 11:38 PM

mikey, ok na ang foot brake ko, so with the others I mentioned. So far, the only other thing I am not satisfied with is the wipers. Parang luma, it leaves a film for a second or two if you set it at intermittent before it disappears. The problem is if continuous ang wipers, continuous din ang film. Don't notice that with my other cars epecially kung bagong palit. Ganun ba talaga? What the casa did was to tighten it daw, whatever it meant. Pero ganun pa rin

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