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    #21
    I think all brand new.

    Del Monte assembled Isuzu bus cost around 10-12 million brand new compared to a CBU (take note) Chinese made for less than 8 million brand new (kinglong-CNG ready)

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    Yeah pero di hamak naman mas maganda quality ng gawang pinoy kesa gawang intsik. hehehe. Tuwing sumasakay ako ng china bus natatakot ako e. Baka matanggal bigla turnilyo sa gulong maaksidente yung bus. :bwahaha:
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    Quote Originally Posted by jatcos View Post
    ^^Pilipinas Hino also assembles Toyota commercial vehicles like Hi Ace and some CKD's and China Buses.

    Hi Ace (new ones) are Japanese CBU , Only Vios and Innova are the local ones assembled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Yeah pero di hamak naman mas maganda quality ng gawang pinoy kesa gawang intsik. hehehe. Tuwing sumasakay ako ng china bus natatakot ako e. Baka matanggal bigla turnilyo sa gulong maaksidente yung bus. :bwahaha:
    Most Kinglong bus sold here uses Nissan and Cummins Engines with ZF transmissions.. They use parts from supplier,only difference with locals is the price..

    Builders operate in partnership with engine and chassis supplier for example-
    Delmonte Motorworks for Isuzu
    Pilipinas Hino for Hino
    Santa Rosa/ Columbian for Nissan Diesel, MAN, Daewoo
    Centro / Almazora for Mitsubishi and Mercedes Benz

    They also re-build, re-model, transplant bodies/ engines using old chassis.

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    hmmm meron na palang brand new locally assembled vehicles. (even though it have platforms from other established car companies.)

    sabi na nga ba, yung mga kinglong buses are of chinese origin. my instinct tells me that the design is rather chinese looking. hehehe though it's good that they do use Japanese engine and transmission. (not sure where ZF tranny and cummins engines originate.)
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    Truck body maker Centro expands

    Malaya Business Insights
    Dec22, 2009


    Local truck body manufacturer Centro Manufacturing Corp. is expanding its operations despite the recession.


    The company just announced the arrival of new state-of-the-art hydraulic press brake and shearing machines signaling the start of its major modernization program.


    The new equipments are expected to provide greater flexibility in Centro’s stamping capability as they can process up to 10-foot long metal sheets. This will eliminate the joints when using the standard 8-foot long metal sheet, which is not only unsightly but is also prone to corrosion. This is also perfect for vehicles requiring rear bodies longer than 8 feet.


    These new stamping equipments are also expected to improve the quality of the metal parts; increase the output and productivity of the stamping plant and; consequently, increase the daily production output of Centro’s two plants in Novaliches and Maguyam, Cavite.


    Centro president Raphael T. Juan said with these capital investments, Centro customers can expect even better products and services from the country’s first and only ISO-certified truck body builder.


    "These investments also are critical as we plan to increase the production output of our Maguyam plant in Cavite to augment the production output of our main Novaliches plant. We will thus be in a better position to serve the needs of both the north and south dealerships of our customers, as we expect our market segments to grow further next year in view of the coming national elections and the resulting added money in circulation," Juan added.


    Industry sales figures from the Chamber of Automotive Manufacturers of the Philippines Inc. (CAMPI) show that as of the third quarter of 2009, only two market segments were not hurt by the global recession -- the light commercial vehicle (LCV) and the trucks and buses segments. Both of these are Centro’s market segments, with the LCV alone by growing by 8.9 percent, from 34,015 units last year to 37,045 units this year.


    Juan said according to CAMPI, the LCV segment remains the strongest and most resilient segment compared to others, backed by sales of the popular pick-up trucks, vans and compact wagons.



    This is in part due to the Filipino’s entrepreneurial spirit as the dual-purpose LCV is ideal for business use on weekdays and family use on weekends. Campi also expects a sales boost starting the last quarter of 2009 and thereafter, fueled by seasonality and replacement sales as a negative after-effect of typhoon Ondoy.
    Good news and good move!!

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    On Centro Manufacturing, INc.


    Top manufacturer of truck bodies expands Cavite plant

    http://test.bworldonline.com/main/content.php?id=8205
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    Posted on 10:21 PM, March 29, 2010

    Businessworld Online

    CENTRO Manufacturing Corp., a supplier of truck bodies to big-name vehicle assemblers, has set up a new production line at its Cavite plant in anticipation of higher sales this year, an official said in a statement yesterday.
    The additional line will manufacture bodies for the new Mitsubishi light truck model dubbed “L300 FB Exceed,” Centro Manufacturing President Raphael T. Juan said.

    The launch of the new model should cause sales to rise over the 3,800-unit annual average and thus spur more orders for truck bodies, Mr. Juan said without elaborating.

    Centro Manufacturing had forecast a 55% sales volume growth for 2010 in line with the projected uptick in the economy. This is better than the 29.6% increase seen last year.

    With the expansion, the 14-year-old firm now has four production lines. Fifty workers were added to the existing 211.

    Aside from Mitsubishi Motors Philippines Corp., other vehicle assemblers served by the firm include Isuzu Philippines Corp., Suzuki Philippines Corp., Toyota Motor Philippines Corp., Mitsubishi Motors Philippines Corp., Hyundai Asia Resources, Inc. and Ford Motors Philippines. -- J. A. D. Hermosa

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    Quote Originally Posted by jatcos View Post
    Most Kinglong bus sold here uses Nissan and Cummins Engines with ZF transmissions.. They use parts from supplier,only difference with locals is the price..

    Builders operate in partnership with engine and chassis supplier for example-
    Delmonte Motorworks for Isuzu
    Pilipinas Hino for Hino
    Santa Rosa/ Columbian for Nissan Diesel, MAN, Daewoo
    Centro / Almazora for Mitsubishi and Mercedes Benz

    They also re-build, re-model, transplant bodies/ engines using old chassis.


    There are also local backyard minibus assemblers using imported engines and parts with locally made bodies and parts.

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    Hello all .... i am living in England and have worked as a vehicle body builder for 30 years now , building refrigerated vehicles , busses , coaches , dropsides , i can mig , tig both stainless and aluminium , arc and gas weld . i am looking to move to the philipines in the next 18months to be with my girlfriend ...

    Can any one tell me what the chances of work are like in the body building trade in the philipines


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    Jobs... Not so good with the local companies, but maybe with the OEMs like Mitsubishi.

    Obviously, not going to pay anywhere near as well as in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJCarEnthusiast View Post
    hmmm meron na palang brand new locally assembled vehicles. (even though it have platforms from other established car companies.)

    sabi na nga ba, yung mga kinglong buses are of chinese origin. my instinct tells me that the design is rather chinese looking. hehehe though it's good that they do use Japanese engine and transmission. (not sure where ZF tranny and cummins engines originate.)
    Cummins is one of the biggest makers of Heavy Duty Diesel engines. Cummins is an American company.
    ZF on the other hand is one of Germany's biggest Transmissions and Driveline manufacturer. they supply gearboxes and driveline products to premium brands like Mercedes Benz, BMW and Jaguar Land Rover

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    Try the following companies: Centro manufacturing, Inc. Almazora, StaRosa Motors, Del Monte.

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    Why is it not one makes a Fiber Glass FB body? Be 1/2 be weight, no rust, quicker to produce, more stream line and the vehicle would use less fuel.

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    Truck company battles the giants




    Published on Thursday, 23 August 2012 00:00
    Written by IRMA ISIP



    Columbian Manufacturing Corp. (CMANC) yesterday said it is unfazed by competition from second-hand and brand-new buses sold at basement prices.

    Through its partner, Daewoo Global Bus Corp. of Korea, CMANC even thinks of exporting in the future.

    Mario Regis, general manager of CMANC, said the company has assembled 700 buses the past three years. It has signed a technical licensing agreement with Daewoo Global as exclusive official distributor, assembler and importer of Daewoo buses in the Philippines.

    Despite growing importation of completely built-up (CBU) units, CMANC said it supports completely knocked down (CKD) operations to create more jobs, and develop more products for both local and export markets.

    In the coming years and as the conditions and timing permit, Daewoo Bus Global is looking into introducing some alternative fuel variants such as compressed natural gas (CNG), hybrid, and electric buses.

    Regis said the market for locally-made buses, especially for a commuter city, is not that good because they have to compete with second-hand buses from Korea and brand-new units from China.

    CMANC’s locally-made Daewoo buses are priced at between P5 million and P7 million while second-hand imports cost below P2 million. Brand-new buses from China are remarkably lower at about P4 million.

    Regis said second-hand buses are now eating up 20 percent of the market for buses.

    “We offer operators buses that are reliable, fuel-efficient with good after-sales service that would ensure commuters better riding comfort,” Regis said.

    CMANC assembles buses in Sta. Rosa, Laguna using CKD packs and engines from Korea. The company produces stamped parts and builds bus bodies.

    According to Regis, other local components such as outriggers, tires and batteries are purchased from local sources.

    Regis said in the future, CMANC would bring in Daewoo’s technology for buses that run on compressed natural gas.

    “But for now, the infrastructure is not yet ready,” he said.

    Regis said CMANC’s partnership with Daewoo is proof of the local manufacturing industry’s growing presence.

    He said the healthy CKD operations in the Philippines have other players in the Asia-Pacific region sitting up and taking notice.

    In fact, Daewoo Bus’ head office in Korea is looking into introducing other eco-friendly models to serve both the local and export markets.

    CMANC currently has three bus models: BV115, BS106 and BF106.

    Regis said major bus operators are among CMANC’s main customers.

    At the 4th Philippine International Motor Show last week, CMANC showcased CMANC’s Philippine-made and designed bus model BV115, and for educational purposes the BS106 structural display unit.

    Established in 1955, Daewoo Bus is a global manufacturer of large buses.

    Through its global sales network and distributors in 60 countries, it supplies its products worldwide. Daewoo buses meet global quality standards for customer safety, comfort and even feature eco-friendly technology, according to Regis.
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    At the end of the day... selling price vs overhead costs will dictate the winner.

    Problem with Philippines is the ridiculously expensive electricity with expensive labor costs. Plus the inability to take advantage of economies of scale with the tiny local market and the red tape if units were exported (plus the problem of the strong peso).

    Any proper businessman will see it clear as day.

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    The BV115 Daewoo Bus model provides great performance, fuel-efficiency, safety, and comfort to both driver and passengers alike. It has elegant styled exteriors and a comfortable, modern interior. It's also rugged and tough, made specifically for the Philippines' tropical climate and the roughest road conditions in the Philippines. Meanwhile, BS106 is powered by a 240 engine and its hollow steel frame is more lightweight but is still structurally durable.

    Source: The Korean bus that Pinoys made - Yahoo! News Philippines
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    Isuzu notes shift in preference of buyers to brand new trucks


    Published on Friday, 21 June 2013 00:00
    Written by IRMA ISIP



    As other truck manufacturers shift more and more to importation and despite the prevalence of second-hand trucks in the country, Isuzu Philippines Corp. (IPC) is adding two more truck models to its lineup due to robust demand.IPC yesterday launched the Forward FRR and FVM medium-duty trucks at Isuzu Truckfest at the Le Pavilion, in a move to affirm leadership and take advantage of the market’s preference now on brand-new trucks.

    IPC president Nobuo Izumina said the company has noted a shift in preference of buyers specially entrepreneurs to buy brand-new trucks that they can rely on for 8 to 10 years.

    Takashi Tomita, executive vice president of IPC, said the company expects the newly launched 10.6-tonner FRR and 25-ton FVM trucks to sell very well as a new addition to the already bestselling light-duty trucks, the N and F series, all of which are assembled in the Philippines.

    IPC accounts for 70 percent of the light truck market and holds the number one position in the segment for the past 14 years.

    Tomita said Filipinos are now having second thoughts about used trucks that may be half the price of new ones but last them only two years.

    With new brand-new trucks, entrepreneurs experience less down time thus ensuring efficiency.

    “At at this moment 90 percent of the demand of trucks hers is occupied by second hand. Some are converted from right hand to left hand and that is not safe. We want customer to use brand new trucks. (We want to) change the market trend,” he added.

    IPC targets to sell 3,000 units of trucks, including its imported line, the heavy-duty E and C series.

    Joseph Bautista, assistant division head for sales of IPC, said at 3,000 units, the company still has the volume for local assembly even as other truck makers have increased importation of brand-new trucks which now enjoy zero tariff if imported from Japan.

    At 3,000 units, that is barely 8 percent of the truck market which is about 24,000 a year, mostly served by second-hand.

    Industry reports said companies like Mitsubishi, Hino, Fuso are taking advantage of the Japan-Philippines economic partnership agreement to import their trucks at zero duty rather than assemble them locally.

    Bautista said IPC is maintaining its completely knocked down (CKD) operations for light and medium duty trucks as assembly provides it the flexibility to make the trucks based on the specifications demanded by customers.

    He said even at zero tariff from Japan, trucks assembled from CKD remain competitively priced.

    Besides, he said, trucks that are imported completely built-up face capacity issues every now and then.

    Izumina said IPC would increase the sourcing of local parts, depending on the competitiveness in price and quality.

    For the trucks, all parts particularly engine and transmission are sourced from Japan with minimal parts only coming from local sources like batteries, tires, some pipings and tubings.

    “The local parts industry is still geared towards the passenger car segment,” said Bautista.

    Bautista said IPC trucks are in demand for construction, deliveries and for mining, especially the big trucks.

    He said even RORO services are a growing market.“The market is evolving. Customers want reliability,” he said.

    The Forward FRR, priced at P1.95 million is ideal for aluminum vans, compactors, mixers etc. Bodies are built by accredited IPC builders at an additional cost.The FVM , priced at P3.1 million, is ideal for up to 18-ton payload like carriers for softdrinks.IPC, which assembles 90 percent of the vehicles it sells locally, maintains as high as 35 percent in local content for its Asian utility vehicle, the Crosswind.The company targets to sell 13,000 units this year. Its plant in Sta Rosa has a capacity of 12,000 units but is using around 10,000. IPC has 500 employes.

    source:Malaya Business News Online - Philippine Business News | Online News Philippines - Isuzu notes shift in preference of buyers to brand new trucks

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