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    Romski,

    Improving the mileage includes better tires than doesnt have much drag. Aerodynamic body also helps it go further. Sana they hear this... hehehe...

    Just my 2 cents.
    Last edited by drey; August 2nd, 2007 at 06:52 PM.
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    I got a pic from my friend in greenpeace

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    is this the chinese all stock version? bec if it is, for pete's sake we can do better than this ourselves, right?

    lemme see...
    minimize frontal drag by decreasing steepness angle upfront (more curves if you may) and relocate the spare wheel somewhere like behind

    is that a laminated glass windshield or perspex which is a third lighter?

    open air and no a/c- airy, yes but has significant drag and not so nice during showers.

    reshape those funny looking fenders

    rework on those flashlight sized headlights

    change the motif, the vehicle should be evident that it is pilipino. it should be a moving advertisement/s

    change the wheels?

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    I got this from Philippine Star. Now, with the MOve of both Greenpeace and MVPMAP to LOCALIZE the NEW E-JEEPNEY--Isa na ako sa masugid na tagasuporta ng E-PHUV!!!

    For The Philippines and Mother Earth!!!!!

    RP-made electric jeepneys eyed for export to Asian neighbors
    By Ma. Elisa P. Osorio
    Sunday, August 5, 2007
    The locally-assembled electric jeepney (E-jeepney) will likely be exported to neighboring Asian countries after local auto parts makers said they will help make the project commercially viable.
    The Motor Vehicle Parts Manufacturers Association of the Philippines (MVPMAP) said they will support the project proponent, Green Renewable Independent Power Producer (GRIPP), in localizing the assembly of the pollution-free public transport vehicle.
    “We will call it the E-PhUV and this will complement our other projects such as the PhUV (Philippine utility vehicle) itself, PUJ (public utility jeep) refleeting program and our One-Brand Project,” MVPMAP vice president Pia Mirasol said.
    Currently, two units of the E-Jeepney are being pilot tested in Makati CityBacolod. while four others are being tested in
    The engine of the 12-seater E-Jeepneys are imported from Guangzhou, China. When charged in an ordinary wall outlet for eight to 10 hours, the E-Jeepney could run for 100 kilometers at a maximum speed of 40 kph.
    Mirasol said the MVPMAP agreed to support GRIPP in localizing the assembly of the E-Jeepney and in making the project viable and replicable, not only domestically but also internationally.
    She said the association will provide technical assistance such as product design, improvement and provide development and provide the parts needed to come up with a locally-assembled version of the E-Jeepney that would help make the project commercially viable and acceptable to the export market.
    Mirasol explained that MVPMAP will fold in the E-Jeepney into its own PhUV program so that its assembler, local parts suppliers and buyers will also receive the same benefits given to the local program.
    GRIPP’s E-Jeepney is one of three components of Greenpeace’s Climate Friendly Cities Program, an integrated strategy for promoting sustainable transport and waste management through the use of renewable energy-based technologies. The two other components are a depot that will serve as a charging station and maintenance center for the fleet and a power plant consisting of a generator, a solid anaerobic biodigester and a gas engine from which electricity will be generated from organic wastes
    ”We not only reduce pollution but also minimize organic wastes by putting them into good use. Furthermore, this E-PhUV project will provide additional livelihood to over 50,000 direct workers dependent on the local parts making industry for survival”, Mirasol said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    is this the chinese all stock version? bec if it is, for pete's sake we can do better than this ourselves, right?
    lemme see...
    minimize frontal drag by decreasing steepness angle upfront (more curves if you may) and relocate the spare wheel somewhere like behind
    is that a laminated glass windshield or perspex which is a third lighter?
    open air and no a/c- airy, yes but has significant drag and not so nice during showers.
    reshape those funny looking fenders
    rework on those flashlight sized headlights
    change the motif, the vehicle should be evident that it is pilipino. it should be a moving advertisement/s
    change the wheels?
    Hi Helios! Great suggestions there.
    If you can spare some time sketching, please don't hesitate to post. We all know MVPMAP is watching this forum.
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    I'm all for making the e-Jeepney a truly pinoy made product, even if its fabricators are generally foreign. Pardon me for observing, however, that the design development of the vehicle is incomplete for Philippine use. It is environment-friendly, but until certain issues are addressed and resolved, it remains passenger-hostile.

    We all know what killed Sarao. It was the FX and its airconditioning. People chose to ride the FX because of its thermal comfort and filtered air. Aside from the speed factor, the FX basically provided protection from the elements: air and noise pollution, heat and humidity, wind and rain. The e-Jeepney provides NONE of these -- so far.

    The globe is warming, and Metro Manila is asthma country. People will try out the e-Jeepney for the novelty of it, but will soon listen to their lungs. I for one would hate to be trailing a smoke belcher, or passing near a puddle while riding an e-Jeepney.

    The designers appear to have stopped midstream as soon as they saw that the green technology was already workable. Solarco president Robert Puckett affirms: “This is just to keep people aware and open their minds that there are alternative engines -- we’re not talking about bodies but engines -- in a market that can clean the environment” (PDI, July 5). It is a serious mistake for designers to focus primarily on the contraption or machine, instead of providing for the people who are supposed to use it.

    In its present form, this concept vehicle is more appropriate for theme parks and highly sanitized (European) historical centers where traffic of combustion engine vehicles is highly restricted and clean air laws are observed to the last iota. Its present specs define a generic electric vehicle, and it seems to have been labelled with a Pinoy name - jeepney - (like the Indonesian Kijang was renamed "Tamamraw FX") just to capture the Philippine market.

    Bottomline: Government has to be more serious about going after belchers and cleaning up the air, while the electric utility vehicle designers need to be more humane in finalizing their incomplete e-Jeepney design.

    The project is laudable. Sayang naman if they don't carry it to completion.
    Last edited by dprox; August 5th, 2007 at 11:26 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    is this the chinese all stock version? bec if it is, for pete's sake we can do better than this ourselves, right?
    yes you can! and it's high time someone did this... bakit greenpeace pa ang gumawa di ba?

    the idea of Greenpeace is to sell the concept here in the Philippines simply to move the country towards using renewable energy. wala naman pera ang greenpeace masyado so those jeeps launched in makati are not the best in terms of electric vehicles.. may mas hi-tech pa dyan. this e-jeep will be tested for 6 months...madami pang kelangan gawin, pwedeng baguhin at ayusin. these aren't for business purposes either.

    so far, makati and bacolod city have committed to doing this. si bacolod underway na ang talks for the bio-waste plant. this will produce jobs too. plus this was all done putting into consideration the future role of the jeepney operators etc.

    let's not put it down please ...

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    regarding bio-diesel...in it's own right...it is a good thing because it is cleaner...unfortunately, the big manufacturers of biodiesel are denuding the indonesian forests to plant palm oil to make biodiesel... they are chopping down trees at a rate of 300 football fields an hour. hard to believe? it's a guinness book world record. so technically, this seems better to help solve global warming, but given that this directly causes climate change from all the chopping of the trees...what now is our option?

    on the other hand, if you go electric...it saves us on the pollution part...but plugging into the electric grid, if fired by a coal plant..ganun din..coal is the no.1 contributor to climate change. your option now is either electric, but from a renewable source...or if you really want to keep your gasoline engines..then go for smaller engine capacity.

    mahirap to go green! nakakaloka!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchywitch View Post
    yes you can! and it's high time someone did this... bakit greenpeace pa ang gumawa di ba?

    the idea of Greenpeace is to sell the concept here in the Philippines simply to move the country towards using renewable energy. wala naman pera ang greenpeace masyado so those jeeps launched in makati are not the best in terms of electric vehicles.. may mas hi-tech pa dyan. this e-jeep will be tested for 6 months...madami pang kelangan gawin, pwedeng baguhin at ayusin. these aren't for business purposes either.
    It's not just Greenpeace, but Solarco a viable alternative energy enterprise that is behind this laudable (but incomplete) venture. They have the resources to fully develop the vehicle. The question is whether they have the awareness and the talent to do so.
    so far, makati and bacolod city have committed to doing this. si bacolod underway na ang talks for the bio-waste plant. this will produce jobs too. plus this was all done putting into consideration the future role of the jeepney operators etc.

    let's not put it down please ...
    Nobody is putting it down. In fact, I can assure you that anybody who opposes this effort will be off-topic in this thread. Tsikot Design & Research Forum is here precisely to foster and cultivate filipino-designed vehicles, translation: to give positive design and styling recommendations on how to improve and complete worthy projects.
    regarding bio-diesel...in it's own right...it is a good thing because it is cleaner...unfortunately, the big manufacturers of biodiesel are denuding the indonesian forests to plant palm oil to make biodiesel... they are chopping down trees at a rate of 300 football fields an hour. hard to believe? it's a guinness book world record. so technically, this seems better to help solve global warming, but given that this directly causes climate change from all the chopping of the trees...what now is our option?
    Option? Hmmm.
    I guess you chop the heads off those who don't display any sign of having brains.>[SIZE="1"]JOKE[/SIZE]<
    on the other hand, if you go electric...it saves us on the pollution part...but plugging into the electric grid, if fired by a coal plant..ganun din..coal is the no.1 contributor to climate change. your option now is either electric, but from a renewable source...or if you really want to keep your gasoline engines..then go for smaller engine capacity.

    mahirap to go green! nakakaloka!!!
    We shouldn't lose heart. I checked out Solarco (apparently an MNC, but with significant roots in the Philippines) and found its alternative energy research, operations and prospects to be very encouraging. Mukhang OK naman sila. Seems they'd rather look up to the sun rather than disturb the earth. :thumbup:
    Although as you say "nakakaloka" ang green technology, with outfits like them, we can look forward and expect our dependence on fossil fuels to diminish ... gradually.
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    Actually Greenpeace has it pretty much covered. They set-up a company partnered with Solarco called Gripp. This company has gotten a grant from the Dutch government, so may pera sila. They put up Gripp just to make sure the program is launched properly and that it becomes commercially viable.

    The electric jeepney is just one part of the program. They also plan to put up charging stations and a biodigester depot that will get its power from our garbage. So that solves the coal plant issue.

    This project is well thought of and it took them 3 years to research.

    Ill try to get more info from my friend in Greenpeace and post it here.

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    All true!

    I say 'nakakaloka' because actually trying to change your habits or go as green as you can is so difficult. Especially more so if you are the obsessive compulsive type. Pero OT na yan. Sorry.

    So back to jeeps. The Dutch grant mentioned was for the whole study and the production of the prototype jeeps. But from hereon it is really up to the local municipalities to make this real. Bacolod is the first city to commit to Greenpeace & Gripp to be the 1st Green City in the Philippines. Now after seeing the electric jeepney, Binay wants a ride on the environment bandwagon. Let's watch Bacolod and Makati race towards this.

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