Dingel-The Reclusive Pinoy "Inventor"

**jpdm** · December 22nd, 2008 08:21 AM

Even if Dingel's claims can be dismissed as a hoax...

In theory, can a vehicle run with a hybrid system running on fuel and water?

**ghosthunter** · December 22nd, 2008 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by jpdm

Even if Dingel's claims can be dismissed as a hoax...

In theory, can a vehicle run with a hybrid system running on fuel and water?

if you want rust to form inside your fuel system and engine, go right ahead. :borg:

**jpdm** · December 22nd, 2008 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by ghosthunter

if you want rust to form inside your fuel system and engine, go right ahead. :borg:

..if you directly mix water in your fuel system, right?

That is not what Im pointing out, sir.

What I mean sir is, what if another gadget (processing the water into fuel)is added (like the reactor Dingel is claiming)in the car that will assist the regular gas/diesel engine...

....in theory, will it work?

The Japan made water powered vehicle made me curious.

Do you think its a hoax also and the car might end up with rusted engine?

**docgorio** · December 22nd, 2008 09:34 AM

I'm very surprised Federico Pascual of Philstar hasn't mentioned the Dingel case yet...

He and my brother were daring him to have a closed circuit test wherein he will load water and only water into his tank complete with video/photo documentation as well as press coverage.

Guess what?? He refused!!!!!

So what does that tell you?????

**jpdm** · December 22nd, 2008 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by docgorio

I'm very surprised Federico Pascual of Philstar hasn't mentioned the Dingel case yet...

He and my brother were daring him to have a closed circuit test wherein he will load water and only water into his tank complete with video/photo documentation as well as press coverage.

Guess what?? He refused!!!!!

So what does that tell you?????

Relax lang sir.

Well, from your personal experience perhaps indeed Dingel is not confident that his "invention" works.

**LadyRider** · December 22nd, 2008 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by jpdm

Relax sir.

Well, from your personal experience perhaps indeed Dingel is not confident that his "invention" works.

Sir jpdm siguro nga Mr. Dingel had a dream that one day magiging successful ang invention nya.

Kaya lang all dreams must come to an end. Pero ang masakit doon ay naging masaklap ang ending nya.

**jpdm** · December 22nd, 2008 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by LadyRider

Sir jpdm siguro nga Mr. Dingel had a dream that one day magiging successful ang invention nya.

Kaya lang all dreams must come to an end. Pero ang masakit doon ay naging masaklap ang ending nya.

Yes, I agree.

I thought he has done something good for local auto industry...

But the estafa conviction is definitely an eye opener.

Im just surprised as to why these Taiwanese investors (who are known to be tech savvy like my friend in TECO)were convinced to give a substantial amount to Mr. Dingel...

Even the former Solicitor-General Chavez is attesting the authenticity of Dingel's "invention."

Well, Im leaning towards the idea that its more of a hoax with the personal experience of a tsikoteer when Dingel refuses to demo his "system."

Anyway, abangan ang susunod na kabanata.......

And indeed, Dingel should return th money to the Taiwanese....

**jpdm** · December 22nd, 2008 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by jpdm

Even if Dingel's claims can be dismissed as a hoax...

In theory, can a vehicle run with a hybrid system running on fuel and water?

Just got this old article (2001) maybe to partially/indirectly answer my own question.....although water is not processed within the car...and the water was already converted into fuel (hydrogen) before it was pumped into the car.

[SIZE=3]The BMW Clean Energy system involves [SIZE=4]liquid hydrogen produced [SIZE=5]from water [/SIZE]using solar power. [/SIZE]Hydrogen as a motor fuel is the answer to many environmental problems since there are no harmful emissions, no depleting of resources, and no danger to the atmosphere.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]Since the 70's, BMW has been researching the future of mobility. The fruit of the research is the new BMW 750hL hydrogen powered vehicle. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=2] The heart of the 750hL is a [SIZE=4]hybrid, 12-cylinder combustion engine[/SIZE] with two independent electronically controlled fuel induction systems. These systems allow the 750hL to run on either gasoline (petrol) or hydrogen.

The 750hL has a hybrid 12-cylinder combustion engine capable of running on either gasoline or hydrogen. The 5.4-liter engine has two independent, electronically controlled fuel induction systems. The hydrogen engine offers excellent torque and acceleration, while the specially insulated 140-liter tank for the liquid hydrogen provides a range of 400 kilometers. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]The Process:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2] Electricity generated from solar power is used to split water into hydrogen and oxygen. Oxygen is released into the atmosphere, while hydrogen is liquefied and stored at a very low temperature (-253 °C). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=2] During internal combustion, the hydrogen combines with oxygen. The resulting energy powers the vehicle, while the hydrogen is returned to the environment as water. Harmful emissions are virtually eliminated.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2] By cooling hydrogen to -253 degrees Celsius, hydrogen is shrunk to a thousandth of its original volume. 70 layers of aluminum and fiberglass sheets between the exterior and interior vehicle walls insure that the liquid hydrogen remains at extremely low temperatures.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2] The car gets electricity from a newly developed fuel cell battery that converts hydrogen into electric current, and because it has several cells in series, it supplies enough power to keep the climate control running even when stationary.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2] Working with Shell Oil Company, BMW has developed a technology for dispensing hydrogen from a filling station's pumps into a car's fuel tanks. The world's first fully automatic hydrogen filling station was opened in May 1999 at the Munich Airport.[/SIZE]

Perhaps technology in the future can put the processing of water into fuel within the car's system.

**jpdm** · December 22nd, 2008 10:55 AM

Select Year

[SIZE=5]BMW 750hL[/SIZE] The Ultimate Clean Machine

[SIZE=3]The BMW 750hL, a production ready car demonstrated at Expo 2000, is the culmination of three decades of research on hydrogen powered vehicles. The 750hL is a car powered by sunlight and water.[/SIZE]

The car of BMW...
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**tony_talabis** · December 22nd, 2008 11:50 AM

Kawawa naman si mr. Dingel. Pati siya naniwala na sa stir niya. Eto na lang ang gamitin ninyo mga bossing. Alam niyo ba na ang kamote ay pwedeng gamitin na alternative fuel?

Step 1. Kumain ng 5 kilong kamote.

step 2. matulog at lagyan ng stopper ang butas ng puwet.

step 3. gumising ng walang tangalan ng stopper sa puwet.

step 4. Kumuha ng compressor.

step 5. isaksak ang suction ng compressor sa butas ng puwet at iutot ng matindi ang hangin sa tiyan na naipon at tangalin ang hose pag tapos na umutot.

step 5. ikabit sa fuel rail ng sasakyan ang outlet ng compressor at lagyan ng clamp.

step 6. start the engine at takpan ang ilong o dili kaya buksan ang aircon at isara ang bintana agad.

WARNING: Huwag iwan tumatakbo ang makina sa saradong lugar kamukha ng garage ng motel at sa mall at mamamatay kayo sa halimuyak ng utot na di nasunog.

Ayos ba mga bossing!!!! Merry Christmas po sa lahat ng tsikoteers!!!!