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    Boracay goes on e-trike
    by Alena Mae S. Flores

    Boracay in Panay is turning to electric tricycles to support the government’s thrust toward alternative sources of fuel.

    Energy Jose Rene Almendras told reporters at the awarding rites of “Bright Now! Do Right. Be Bright. Go E-trike!” design competition that the island paradise resorts was lining up more than 100 e-trikes in what is seen as a move to back its green campaign as well.

    He said the present demand of around 100,000 e-trikes in local government units comes amid plans of Cabanatuan in Nueva Ecija and Puerto Princesa in Palawan to join the pro-environment bandwagon.

    Almendras said tricycle drivers would be able to own units through a government program.

    “It will be rolled out through the Tricycle Regulatory Board of the LGUs,” he said.

    Allen Marie Pilares, of Batangas, won first place in the E-Trike design search along with Julius Valiente of Quezon City and Norielle Ace Serrano of Mapua Institute of Technology, second and third placers, respectively.

    According to Almendras, Japanese engineers will help turn the winning designs into prototypes for the production model.

    “What we need to finalize is the design, we want the e-trike to be safer than the existing tricycle. Once we’ve selected [the design], we will bid it out, hopefully we will get the cheapest, most affordable price, it will go to the lowest bidder who can produce the e-trike, according to the standards we have set,” he said.

    Almendras said government is tapping part of the $300 million clean fund of the Asian Development Bank for the manufacture of the e-trikes.

    The e-trike program is a partnership between the department and ADB, which will finance the roll-out in the next two years.
    SOURCE: Boracay goes on e-trike | Manila Standard Today

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    Just curious, anyone still see much of the electric trikes in THE FORT area?

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    and where does the electricity come from to charge the etrikes?

    from AKELCO (Aklan Electric Cooperative)

    where does AKELCO buy electricity? from IPPs

    and how do the IPPs generate electricity? they use coal and diesel

    hehehe

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    para sa boracay okay na yang e-trike. para di na maglagay ng gas station dun hehehe.
    gas or electric meron talaga mas appropriate na lugar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    and where does the electricity come from to charge the etrikes?

    from AKELCO (Aklan Electric Cooperative)

    where does AKELCO buy electricity? from IPPs

    and how do the IPPs generate electricity? they use coal and diesel

    hehehe
    business minded ka talaga idol!!! hehehe


    Madalas power interruption sa isla di ba?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrismarte View Post
    business minded ka talaga idol!!! hehehe


    Madalas power interruption sa isla di ba?...
    realistic lang hehe

    pa-green-green sila di naman nila inisip saan galing ang kuryente haha

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    the govt is behind the etrike project and the ADB is funding the project

    the ADB is, syempre, a bank. so it makes money by lending money. the borrower is the Phil. govt

    it's a half billion dollar project

    to push this project forward the ADB invited etrike manufacturers

    the Japanese:
    Presentation by Japanese E-Trike Manufacturers and Investors | Asian Development Bank

    the Koreans:
    Presentation by Korean E-Trike Manufacturers | Asian Development Bank

    who wouldnt want a piece of the 500 million dollar pie diba?

    in the end it's still about the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    and where does the electricity come from to charge the etrikes?

    from AKELCO (Aklan Electric Cooperative)

    where does AKELCO buy electricity? from IPPs

    and how do the IPPs generate electricity? they use coal and diesel

    hehehe
    Going beyond the source of electricity to recharge the trikes, the other issue is the proper handling of worn out batteries for either recycling or disposal. Typical handling by local battery shops results in lead contamination of the immediate and surrounding areas and this does not yet consider the potential of lead contamination of the ground water supply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrismarte View Post
    Madalas power interruption sa isla di ba?...
    TOMO!!!! Walang gana minsan mag-isip eh. Buti sana kung may solar charging station, maging masaya pa ako na talagang kawanggawa. Until then, business nga as usual yan.
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    This would go well together with a solar installation... which they should have included in the project, as it would do well for other purposes.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    When cars was first conceptualized it was also mocked by great majority. Claiming that their horses and bandwagon are much better and cannot be replaced by this new mode of transportation......Fast Forward..100years and look where we are now. That goes as well to the Wright brothers. Let's give it a try and see how it goes...it takes a single baby step to start moving.

    And also though electricity came also majority from Fossil fuels, but still lbs per lbs it will be more economical to have electricity mode of transport compared to ICE internal combustion engines. Agree also the drawback will be the handling of battery waste..a Plan should also be in place in handling those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Going beyond the source of electricity to recharge the trikes, the other issue is the proper handling of worn out batteries for either recycling or disposal. Typical handling by local battery shops results in lead contamination of the immediate and surrounding areas and this does not yet consider the potential of lead contamination of the ground water supply.
    I think they still have issue regarding there sewage water disposal...tapos eto nanaman, maaring problema nanaman ng proper handling/disposal (na sana kinonsider nila bago mag decide).

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    This would go well together with a solar installation... which they should have included in the project, as it would do well for other purposes.
    unfortunately most projects like this are half-baked at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggs View Post
    When cars was first conceptualized it was also mocked by great majority. Claiming that their horses and bandwagon are much better and cannot be replaced by this new mode of transportation......Fast Forward..100years and look where we are now. That goes as well to the Wright brothers. Let's give it a try and see how it goes...it takes a single baby step to start moving.

    And also though electricity came also majority from Fossil fuels, but still lbs per lbs it will be more economical to have electricity mode of transport compared to ICE internal combustion engines. Agree also the drawback will be the handling of battery waste..a Plan should also be in place in handling those.
    The problem with the electric car is clear. The current ideal battery (lithium ion) to be used cost too much. The affordable variant (lead acid) has too many short comings (heavy, low power density, short service life, environmentally toxic if not handled properly). We are already far beyond the early days of the motor car.

    Also this is not a matter of R&D. It is a product & business study where everything should have been considered before things are set in motion. Unfortunately, the way things are being done, it would end up as a bunch of cobbled up half-thought fixes... something that should have been planned out from the start to ensure financial stability and efficiency of the project.

    Thinking like yours has led us to our current predicament with short comings with the local clean air act.

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    Well, am just giving them a chance. At least though half baked merong small step and eventually when the prices of the Lithium batts are more affordable then that's the next phase. We need to be always positive though we really felt thats its half baked. I definitely agree to you guys..its some sort of quick patch job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggs View Post
    Well, am just giving them a chance. At least though half baked merong small step and eventually when the prices of the Lithium batts are more affordable then that's the next phase. We need to be always positive though we really felt thats its half baked. I definitely agree to you guys..its some sort of quick patch job.
    Half-baked plans will result the project coming to a nothing in two years.

    By the time lithium batteries would even become close to being affordable, the vehicles in the project would have been a pile of scrap of a while.

    Example, the much promoted e-jeepney was started back in 2007. Today is 2012 and they are still making "improvements" that I had foreseen way back in 2007. Basic and practical things that should have been part of the design from day-one.

    Also, what happened to the e-trike "tilapia" that was operating in the Fort back in 2007?



    "e-trike driver in the Bonifacio Global City told us recently that a number of e-trikes had broken down."
    So predictable....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggs View Post
    Well, am just giving them a chance. At least though half baked merong small step and eventually when the prices of the Lithium batts are more affordable then that's the next phase. We need to be always positive though we really felt thats its half baked. I definitely agree to you guys..its some sort of quick patch job.
    Like I said, solar charging would be best but it is "kawanggawa" all the way.

    The problem is the gov't keeps on insisting that this is a viable option. Papogi lang kasi sila, di naman sila gagastos. May nagbebenta dito sa amin ng mga e-vehicles na mura, kaso nagsara less than a year. Dito pa yan sa pro-environment "daw" na lugar ha.

    Aanhin mo kasi magandang kuwento kung butas sikmura ng operator.
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    pinilit ito eh

    when you force something it usually doesnt turn out well

    why not let market demand for EVs evolve by itself?

    when there's demand there will be supply there will be infrastructure (charging stations, battery recyclers, whatever)

    let evolution run its course

    but noooo

    environmentalists in govt keep pushing EVs

    pansin niyo walang independent end user bumibili

    it's all govt

    it's driven by ideology. environmentalist ideology
    Last edited by uls; March 3rd, 2012 at 11:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Going beyond the source of electricity to recharge the trikes, the other issue is the proper handling of worn out batteries for either recycling or disposal. Typical handling by local battery shops results in lead contamination of the immediate and surrounding areas and this does not yet consider the potential of lead contamination of the ground water supply.
    At least if biodiesel was used for the power generation instead of fossil fuels it would actually make some sense to the "environmentalist" purpose...

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    this is what happens when you force something whose time has not yet come

    electric cars are being pushed by environmentalists

    the Obama admin (liberal, right-wing) pushed GM to make electric cars

    it's ideology-driven

    GM to Idle Volt Production for Five Weeks - WSJ.com

    General Motors Co. will idle production of its Chevrolet Volt battery-powered car for five weeks beginning this month because of slow sales amid an effort to boost the vehicle's consumer appeal, the company said Friday.

    Launched last year with great fanfare, the Volt has had a rocky start as sales stalled, and the car became a lightning rod for critics of the Obama administration's auto-industry bailout and support for alternative energy.

    GM said around 1,300 workers at the Hamtramck, Mich., factory where the Volt is built will be out of work between March 19 and April 23, a spokesman said. The plant had just resumed production on Feb. 6 after a prolonged holiday shutdown.
    don't push it

    let the demand happen by itself
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