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  1. Join Date
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    I've got a very slow leak caused by a tiny shoe tack. Which is advisable to do i this case ? The "tusok" method or the cold patch method (requires dismounting the tire from the wheel) ?

    Wouldn't the "tusok" method make the hole larger? The hole is almost like just a pin prick .

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    #2
    may malalagot na steel thread inside your rubber tire kapag "tusok" method which will cause "bukol" naman.

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    Always use the cold patch method. Pag di pwede cold patch, time to get new tires. Don't ever use the "tusok" or "vulcanize (heated)" method. It will only ruin your tires.

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    #4
    Quote Originally Posted by russpogi
    Always use the cold patch method. Pag di pwede cold patch, time to get new tires. Don't ever use the "tusok" or "vulcanize (heated)" method. It will only ruin your tires.
    If your tire was applied with tusok method pwede pa ba irevert to cold patch?

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    #5
    based on experience, better ang cold patch. yung tusok, minsan di perfect yung seal, at pag napudpod na ulit yung gulong, lumalabas yung tinusok nilang parang thread material na may adhesive. cold patch nasa loob lang at di na-e-expose sa labas. the internal pressure of the tire also helps in ensuring proper seal. hth ;)

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    #6
    Quote Originally Posted by asterix
    If your tire was applied with tusok method pwede pa ba irevert to cold patch?
    Depends on the condition of the damage. Ideally yes.

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    #7
    cold patch, matibay. yung gulong ko up to now, ok pa.

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    mga sir, may kit ba na nabibilhan nung cold patch? saan po and how much? tia

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    #9
    Tusok then patch
    tusok - seal to prevent corrosion on steel belts then
    patch - to prevent air leaking between layers.

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    #10
    sakto na alambre ang gulong ko...cold patch din ako

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    Pina cold patch ko na kanina pero bumubula pa rin!

    It seems there's an alternate route for the air to leak out. Could it be it's leaking between the layers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psylocke
    Pina cold patch ko na kanina pero bumubula pa rin!

    It seems there's an alternate route for the air to leak out. Could it be it's leaking between the layers?
    Possibly. Anong part ng gulong yung butas? San mo pinagawa? Kung sidewall, I would suggest to replace the tire, but that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russpogi
    Possibly. Anong part ng gulong yung butas? San mo pinagawa? Kung sidewall, I would suggest to replace the tire, but that's just me.

    Sa tread ang butas, sa gitna malayo sa sidewall.

    Dalawang beses nga namin nilagyan ng cold patch ganun pa rin.

    Ibabalik ko mamaya, subukan ko tusok method + cold patch combination.

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    nabasa ko na itong thread na ito before making a new thread. made a new thread because im not entirely sure what "tusok" means. and alam ko lang is either hot patch or cold patch... so decided to make a new one... title kasi ng previous thread was tusok or cold patch.

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    cold patch all the way. if you have a SUV or have them 4WD tires its ok to use the tusok system. i mean the tires are strong enough to the seal that goes with the tusok system. if u only have 4 ply or six ply tires i dnt think its a good idea to use the tusok system, as for the hot patch system, never use it. unless ur tires are really old. and you want to replace them in less than 3 months.i wasted 4 tires a while back because i didnt know about the cold patch system.if you have seen what the hot patch does to the rubber tubes in non tubeless tires then expect to see your tires deformed too.

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    damn...hot patch ang ginawa sa bago kong gulong...yun kasi ang malapit na vulcanizing shop sa amin...

    Sa long trip po ba ay ok yang cold patch or tusok?

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Tikoyman
    damn...hot patch ang ginawa sa bago kong gulong...yun kasi ang malapit na vulcanizing shop sa amin...

    Sa long trip po ba ay ok yang cold patch or tusok?
    Cold Patch, yes. Tusok, no.

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    cold patch ba ito? yung vulcanizing napuntahan ko. tinangal ang pako, tapos may in-insert na parang tabako, kinuha nila from a re-sealable plastic bag. Sabi nila german-made daw, wala nang luto-luto. Sa tagal ng ikot ng gulong hindi na raw siya mapapansin. P120 isang butas.

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    #19
    UPDATE FOR MAY 2026

    Backstory:
    I noticed a clicking noise from my right front passenger tire last night while on E. Rodriguez Ave. When I parked at my relative’s house in New Manila, I found the culprit was a screw wedged almost dead center in the tire. Fortunately, it was not leaking air, and since I wasn’t in the mood to change to the spare tire (tinatamad/pagod na/gabi na), I just decided to drive out and have it vulcanized.

    Most of the vulcanizing shops had closed for the night already, but I finally managed to find a 24hr one some 5-6kms away, and they only offered the tire plug (“TUSOK”) method so I had it done. When I got back to spend the night with my relatives, I overinflated the tire to 45 PSI to test if the repair would hold. The following morning (10+ hrs parked in a covered garage so tires were cool already) I checked on the tire and there was no deflation (Good!)

    After setting it to the normal cold tire PSI listed on the driver side pilar, I drove out and had it cold patch (“TAPAL”) vulcanized as well.


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    UPDATED VULCANIZING PRICES FOR MAY 2026 (per hole)

    Tire plug “tusok” vulcanizing--------Php 250.
    Cold patch “tapal” vulcanizing------Php 300.

    Hindi dapat nalalayo ang presyo diyan give or take mga 50-100 pesos. Any other price is mahal, or an outright RIPOFF. Baka nagsasamantala lang yan knowing you need to have the tire patched. There ARE folks like that.

    Always have a spare, set at the proper inflation so you won’t be at the mercy of evil people.

    On my part, I hyper-inflate my spare (but below max PSI listed on sidewall) because it gradually loses pressure forgotten and neglected in the trunk or back door rack carrier. You can simply deflate to proper pressure later when you need to mount it (in case you don’t have a portable inflator, or discover that it doesn’t work anymore – out of sight, out of mind)
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    Why am I posting these updated (reasonable) prices – because I see local posts online (Reddit, soc med.) about people being charged P700, P500 etc. per puncture... you are being cheated!!!

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    #20
    TO UPDATE THE OUTDATED/DUBIOUS INFO IN OLD POSTS ON THIS THREAD:

    Why did I have my tire double vulcanized? (Asyong aksaya, OC, paranoid?)
    No.

    The latest industry standards information state that:

    -Tire plug “tusok” vulcanizing is only a temporary solution.
    -Cold patch “tapal” vulcanizing by itself is not actually 100% satisfactory either.

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    -”Plantsa” “Luto” hot vulcanizing is destructive to the tire.
    Unless you have no options or its a real emergency, better to get dirty and mount your spare so you can drive and look for other shops.

    -Punctures on the sidewall CANNOT BE SAFELY REPAIRED. Replace the tire.
    Yes, people here in the Phil do that. Pilosopo pa: “Wala naman nangyari ah, I’ve been using the tire for years, thousands of kms. later it’s still fine!”

    Bahala ka. Hopefully, when it fails, wala kang madadamay. If it never does, eh di good.

    -Punctures on the shoulder of the tire CANNOT BE SAFELY REPAIRED. Replace the tire.
    Same comment as above (pilosopo, etc.)

    -Punctures over 6mm in diameter CANNOT BE SAFELY REPAIRED. Replace the tire.
    Same comment as above.

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    According to the latest available info, the only acceptable industry standard repair, provided the puncture is in a repairable area) is by using a tire mushroom patch. Basically, its a combination tire plug/cold patch that’s not (usually) available locally. I recall years ago there was a shop that advertised this kind of vulcanizing, but it disappeared. Mahirap na makahanap niyan ngayon, and I’m not in the mood to go searching for one, so I did the best I could with what is available.

    I think tama rin yung sequence ng vulcanizing ko. Tusok muna to seal the tread and inner rubber, followed by a cold patch later, to dismount the tire (inspect the interior for damage also) and double seal the tire from within.

    THE ADDITIONAL COST WAS ONLY P300. (Why scrimp on such a small amount???)
    If the tire still fails later down the road because of the repaired puncture, you can at least honestly say I did the best I could na.

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    Bakit ba kamo mga PUJ, trucks and other public utility vehicles are rolling around with threadbare, bald or cracked tires (mostly) without incident? Foremost, there is nothing you can do about that, you can only control, and are accountable for your own actions only. Kung gagawa ka ng tama, even if not for the sake of others, then for your own well being man lang sana. I'm always a stickler for wise spending, pero ang maling pagtitipid, masama din.

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