Toyota casa nag X-1R! Help!

**tagarito** · January 26th, 2008 10:07 PM

Mga sirs! Paano ito?

Nagpa-tune-up kanina ang erpats ko ng '03 Toyota Vios 1.3E sa Toyota Balintawak-North para sa 40,000km PMS. Maraming ginawa dahil heavy daw ang 40k. Umabot ng around P10,000 lahat lahat, with the labor, parts and fluids.

Pag-uwi niya sa bahay, nakita ko yung service billing may nakalagay na:

--Code-------------Description-----------------Units----Amount
..Sublet 2S3269... X1R................................ 1120.00

Ang mahal naman, at bakit walang units? Nagtataka talaga ako kung bakit may nilagay na X-1R sa sasakyan. Walang description sa kung ano ito (trans, brake, engine) at di siya sinabihang nilagyan ng X-1R ang tsikot. So far wala namang difference, aside from siyempre yung expected benefits ng PMS, especially with a new air filter. And hopefully, the 'magic' isn't happening yet on the engine. :nerves:

IMHO, mas bilib pa ako sa WD-40 kaysa sa X1-R, kung langis lang ang pag-uusapan. Pampadulas lang ang X-1R ng bearing ng gulong ng space shuttle launcher, kaya may NASA cert siya. Ang laki tuloy ng pagdududa ko sa TMC dahil naidagdag pa rin sa service record as a legitimate service at sa kanila pa mismo nanggaling ito. Bukod pa sa wala sa expected cost namin ang 'additive'.

Anong kababalaghan 'to? Puwede bang maglagay ng ganito ang casa sa sasakyan nang walang pahintulot sa customer? At kung sakali man, wala rin kaming nakuhang empty bottle ni ebidensiya na nilagyan nga ng X-1R ang makina. Sarado na sila kaya di na rin namin mabalikan. Can I ask for a refund on something I did not order? If I don't want this on my engine, can I ask them to drain the engine oil and replace it with new oil?

Help needed pls.

Thanks.

**washburn** · January 26th, 2008 10:21 PM

reklamo ka dapat alam mo kung anu nilalagay mo sa sasakyan mo, kumikita lang sila diyan sa mga additives na yan na wala naman nagagawang mabuti, the best parin ang frequent oil change (every 5K)
halos lahat ata ng casa may X-1R nakapagtataka

**tagarito** · January 26th, 2008 10:36 PM

Sa lunes talagang irereklamo namin ito. E paano ang makina? Di kaya masira ito dahil nilagyan ng X-1R? Alam ko alloy ang piston nito.

**userfriendly** · January 27th, 2008 12:36 AM

style talaga ng mga casa yan. may commisiion ang service advisor. next service specify mo no engine oil additive, no fuel treatment additive, no engine flush.

**speedyfix** · January 27th, 2008 09:42 AM

that's probably why so many toyota engines have bad cases of sludge. if pumayag sila drain it and replace with oil only.

**niky** · January 27th, 2008 06:47 PM

Complain, get a refund for the 1120, and have the oil changed again.

Unless the manual calls for it, they should never add additives to your engine oil without informing you first.

Your engine won't die because of it... but you don't really need it... and adding extra additives to an oil already filled with additives just puts more stuff in the oil that can break down over time, causing sludge.

**non-vtec** · January 27th, 2008 08:12 PM

afaik, most if not all car manufacturers don't recommend additives. get a refund. sayang lang pera.

**forcemajeure** · January 27th, 2008 08:19 PM

friend ko din may bad experience sa casa ng honda, hindi nilinis ang aircon nya!

kaya dapat if magpapaayos kayo ng auto dun sa nakikita at kilala nyo

**mazdamazda** · January 28th, 2008 09:11 AM

Sa Toyota Shaw-Ortigas, after ng PMS may nilalagay silang fuel additive treatment (w/o even consulting me).

Sinabihan ko yung SA na wag lagyan the next time.

That's why I don't bring my car there anymore.

**paolorenzo** · January 28th, 2008 10:02 AM

Nakupo. Sobrang bad rep na Toyota Ortigas (C5). Eto ginawa nila sa akin:

- fuel additive (ala fuel injector cleaner)
- engine flush
- recommended Denso Iridium, saying good for 100k kms daw. Nung pinacheck ko kay Migs (Speedyfix) last Friday, good for around 20k lang daw, sunog na sunog na yung tips. Palit tuloy ako back to stock. Sayang talaga pera.