Bulok na gasolina, dumadami yata?

**kinyo** · July 19th, 2003 12:49 AM

i've been switching gasoline brands for a long time now, since minor players in the industry came into play, purposely to determine if there is any appreciable difference among them ... so far i have not experienced any difference with normal driving

until recently ... with our honda city low on gas, i filled up full tank unleaded with PTT at san fernando, pampanga (near malls) ... after shopping for an hour, the car had difficulty starting and can't maintain normal idle rpm on the first several seconds, i needed to pump the gas pedal to keep it running, otherwise engine will stop. suspicious of the quality of gas, i decided to use all of it until tank is again near empty ... it took almost a week to empty and car consistently hard-starts when cold ... then i refilled with usual petron unleaded and problem is gone

now somebody else (tsikot member) had a recent similar problem with vortex gold (problem disappeared after filling with velocity) ... and there was news about bmw's experience in subic although meron denial (yata) ang bmw (i suppose to protect bmw's name, not the gas brand)

ano ba talaga ang nangyayari sa mga gasolina natin? napapabayaan na ba ang quality control nila? o meron lang yatang bulok na na-deliver sa mga gas stations?

have you guys experienced similar problem?

**OTEP** · July 19th, 2003 01:13 AM

Ewan ko sa gasolina but I'm used to filling up my diesel at most small player or 'no name' stations (nakapila ako with the FX's and PUJ's). Wala pa naman nangyayaring hindi kanais-nais.

**Bubbles** · July 19th, 2003 03:30 AM

Otep, nadala na ako diyan. 2x I filled up at stations na no name and a shell station during the rainy season and yung diesel ko may tubig. my mb 100 stopped running. the shell station was nice enough to shoulder everything. yung no name mahabang usapan pa. ingat ako ngayon pag biligas. i chose new stations na maski mahal or those in elevated areas

**OTEP** · July 19th, 2003 10:43 AM

Yung Metro Oil kasi araw araw ko nadadaanan, eh. hehehe.

**kimpOy** · July 19th, 2003 11:03 AM

Kinyo, i share your sentiments, notorious talaga yang PTT na yan sa san fernando, ramdam ko ang pickup parang may lagnat nung nagpa karga ako sa kanila, ngayon sa big 3 na lang ako nagpapa karga

**vinj** · July 19th, 2003 01:00 PM

I still stick to the big three and certain gas station... The price difference can be negligeable in the long run, especially if you're sure on the fuel you're getting.

My dad and sis' car is also choosy when it comes to the fuel it gets.

**ghosthunter** · July 19th, 2003 01:51 PM

prefer shell over other gas stations if I have the choice.

**yebo** · July 19th, 2003 04:30 PM

price difference lang naman is around 10 centavos per liter. sa full tank magkano lang yun, wala pang P5! e tip ko lang sa gasoline boy mababa na yung P10 eh, so why risk.

psychological lng naman ang effect ng discount na yan, 10 centavos does not really make a big discount. ang dapat nila improve yung quality ng products nila.

**buknoy2002** · July 19th, 2003 07:41 PM

solid caltex gold ako.
pero one time near empty na ko. ang kita ko trafic. so napilitan ako karga ng shell premium 100.00 lang. pero naramdaman ko parang lakas humatak.
nagkarga ako ng 400 uli after a day... n lakas nga ng hatak...
bumaba kya quality ng caltex gold??

**kinyo** · July 19th, 2003 09:42 PM

Originally posted by kimpOy
Kinyo, i share your sentiments, notorious talaga yang PTT na yan sa san fernando, ramdam ko ang pickup parang may lagnat nung nagpa karga ako sa kanila, ngayon sa big 3 na lang ako nagpapa karga

minsan lang naman nangyari yung problem ko sa PTT san fernando, after having tried 2 or 3 times in the past without problems ... pero wala na akong balak bumalik dun

nasubukan ko na rin yung PTT sa tarlac pero wala naman naging problema ... but that was months ago ... palagay ko lang, recently, nagkaroon ng bad batch ang dumating na gas sa subic para sa PTT and maybe other minor players (bmw incident) ... pero the vortex gold is a different case siguro kasi caltex have its refinery here ... wala pa naman akong naging problema sa caltex gold although it is not my usual gas ... petron or shell ang kadalasan gamit namin

thank you for your post kimpoy ... iiwasan ko na nga yung gas station na yun

**momoyster** · July 20th, 2003 02:30 AM

dati caltex lang tlga ang ikinakarga ko. wen we got our bmw, filling it up w/ vortex silver caused its idling to swing bet 1500 and 1000 rpm continuously during cold start up. i tot dat d 93 octane was too low dats why d idling was erratic (d sticker on d fuel flap kac recommended 98 octane). i switched 2 vortex gold since dis was caltex' top gasoline but d problem persisted during cold start ups. it was only wen i switched 2 shell velocity dat d problem was eliminated. d idle would start up high and gradually move down d scale until it reaches around 800 rpm. duno ang diff ng vortex gold and shell velocity, pareho lang naman na 95 octane silang dalawa. nevertheless, i stayed na wid shell and dun na lhat karga mga auto namin wether gas or diesel

**Bubbles** · July 20th, 2003 03:55 AM

I also use total but using green for diesel and black for unleaded always gets me confused. minsa nagkarga ako ng halftank unleaded. ginawa ko top up ng diesel. hehe. erratic idle ko pero di naman ako tinirik. tapos tuwing kaya add ng diesel. buti nalang ok engine ko

**buknoy2002** · July 20th, 2003 08:23 AM

Originally posted by momoyster
dati caltex lang tlga ang ikinakarga ko. wen we got our bmw, filling it up w/ vortex silver caused its idling to swing bet 1500 and 1000 rpm continuously during cold start up. i tot dat d 93 octane was too low dats why d idling was erratic (d sticker on d fuel flap kac recommended 98 octane). i switched 2 vortex gold since dis was caltex' top gasoline but d problem persisted during cold start ups. it was only wen i switched 2 shell velocity dat d problem was eliminated. d idle would start up high and gradually move down d scale until it reaches around 800 rpm. duno ang diff ng vortex gold and shell velocity, pareho lang naman na 95 octane silang dalawa. nevertheless, i stayed na wid shell and dun na lhat karga mga auto namin wether gas or diesel

y not use petron blaze... 96 ata octane non. so much closer to the 98 requirement of yur BM

suhestion lng po

**MAXBUWAYA** · July 20th, 2003 08:42 AM

I had problems with my ECHO before. losing power at low RPM range. the cure was From unleaded to velocity or gold

the cause was 93 octane doesnt seem to work properly i have to switch to the 95 octane, But the manual says i can go as low 92 octane.

Yung mga unleaded gas mukhang hindi talga 93 octnae

**chieffy** · July 20th, 2003 02:04 PM

basta ako sa Caltex Pedro Gil lang :D galing ang fuel sa Pandacan palagi ;)

if ever you encounter problems when you switched fuel brands or RON, minsan its just a matter of tuning the engine pero para less hassle just stick with the fuel that suits your engine... ;)

**OTEP** · July 20th, 2003 03:18 PM

Nung nagkarga ko kina Chieffy parang plus ten horsepower agad (naks plugging!). hehehe.

**vinj** · July 20th, 2003 03:46 PM

Originally posted by MAXBUWAYA
I had problems with my ECHO before. losing power at low RPM range. the cure was From unleaded to velocity or gold

the cause was 93 octane doesnt seem to work properly i have to switch to the 95 octane, But the manual says i can go as low 92 octane.

Yung mga unleaded gas mukhang hindi talga 93 octnae

Could be the weather temperature we have is not enough to take in the lower octane rating. If the Echo engine automatically retards timing when the fuel is insufficient for good performance (knocking, etc), then it could be the reason why the car performs somewhat sluggishly.

My dad's car requires 95 octane but when i put Petron XCS or Caltex Gold (95 octane), it still experiences detonation... It demands Velocity or Blaze. :confused:

**momoyster** · July 20th, 2003 06:41 PM

sir buknoy2002, i deliberately refrained from using petron blaze coz of may bad experience w petron. d fluctuating rpm during start up was also present in my galant wen it was new back in'97. i believe xcs pa ang tawag ng petron sa unleaded nila. wen petron introduced its valvemaster, i tried dat also but d problem was still der. it was only wen i accidentally tried caltex unleaded dat d problem got solved. tapos nung dumating yung bmw namin, ganun uli problema so lipat ng shell. anyway, tnx 4 d suggestion but shell velocity works well on d car naman e tsaka mas mura pa ito ng konti sa petron blaze =)

**pdc2** · July 21st, 2003 03:42 PM

based from this thread, I guess ok talaga ang shell velocity over the others. na-try nyo ba yun sa Total na Protec (95 ron)? 50cents cheaper sya sa velocity na 95 ron din...

**Bubbles** · July 21st, 2003 11:53 PM

YES NASUBUKAN KO NA YON. and if you can see in the picture, diesel auto ko. HAHAHA! Bad experience yun kapatid.
I didn't drain my tank, I just ran it as is.

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