Regarding Gas Saving Devices: Letter from Nissan Motors

[A121]

sobrang haba na ng thread na ito. para sa akin walang device na pwedeng ma-achieve pareho.

want better fuel savings??
it all boils down on how heavy your right foot is and how well maintained your car is.

want more horsepower??
buy a more powerful engine or car.

want better emissions??
maintain your car properly. a regular change oil won't hurt your engine

want all?
sorry ka na lang...

[driven]

reminds me of bernoulli's equation ah... hehe

[odeereambillo]

Originally posted by ghosthunter
so interesting that odee seems to be ignoring this thread...

Sir,

Ford narin po...

thanks & more POWER!

[ghosthunter]

Originally posted by odeereambillo
Sir,

Ford narin po...

thanks & more POWER!

what "ford na din"? Did they come out with letter similar to the one from Nissan?

[niky]

I'm just waiting for a response to that letter... maybe I'll hand deliver it when I go in for my tune-up this week. :D

[hagiber]

Originally posted by A121
sobrang haba na ng thread na ito. para sa akin walang device na pwedeng ma-achieve pareho.

want better fuel savings??
it all boils down on how heavy your right foot is and how well maintained your car is.

want more horsepower??
buy a more powerful engine or car.

want better emissions??
maintain your car properly. a regular change oil won't hurt your engine

want all?
sorry ka na lang...

May device na kaya lahat yan.... Get a horse!! Better yet, get a stallion para increased horsepower... You get good fuel economy, power, and biodegradeable emissions

[pissword]

sir ghost, ford makati nag test daw ng KHAOS according SPEED magazine, yung AD ng KHAOS doon...

Ford makati, some government agencies(i forgot eh) tsaka taiwan whatever daw ang nag test... kaya better send a letter doon

or better yet, ask for info

[ghosthunter]

Could you tell me where is Ford Makati is located? :D

[luckytruck]

ang ford nasa pasong tamo extension ata.

andy

[A121]

Originally posted by hagiber
May device na kaya lahat yan.... Get a horse!! Better yet, get a stallion para increased horsepower... You get good fuel economy, power, and biodegradeable emissions

hindi ko yun naisip.. hihi :bald:

[wrecker]

good move for Nissan... i hope other manufacturers follow suit

[vinj]

Originally posted by pissword
sir ghost, ford makati nag test daw ng KHAOS according SPEED magazine, yung AD ng KHAOS doon...

Ford makati, some government agencies(i forgot eh) tsaka taiwan whatever daw ang nag test... kaya better send a letter doon

or better yet, ask for info

If i'm not mistaken... Nissan GAllery Quezon Avenue and Ford Makati have the same owners.

[ghosthunter]

Originally posted by vinj
If i'm not mistaken... Nissan GAllery Quezon Avenue and Ford Makati have the same owners.

really now? Will there be a cascade effect when nissan sends out their memo regarding khaos?

[chieffy]

great job dude...Pinoy di na lang kasi ipagawa mga talagang dapat palitan sa sasakyan at magmaneho ng tama para makatipid sa gas...di yung kung ano ano ang ikinakabit sa sasaskyan ng di nalalaman ang magiging impact nito sa paligid niya pati sa sariling sasakyan niy a...

[silhouette]

talagang ganyan yata sir chieffy. ika nga 'no contentment'...

[the_wildthing]

Got this mail from a certain Jun Reyes using his personal Yahoo account:

SUBJECT : KHAOS SUPER TURBO CHARGER -



Dear Sir,

This refers to your email regarding the above subject. Please be informed that the DENR/EMB has conducted vehicle test using the KHAOS device to determine the Carbon Monoxide (CO) and HydroCarbon (HC) gaseous emission concentrations as regulated under the Implementing Rules and Regulation of the Philippine Clean Act of 1999 (RA 8749). During the tests we noted that the emission concentration of said air pollutants were significantly reduced compared to those without the device. However, with respect to your concern on the long term effect in the engine, you may contact other government agencies such as DOST, PCIERD.


We believe that said agency is currently evaluating this device.


Sincerely yours,

ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT BUREAU

AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT SECTION

[niky]

According to til, (nissanbayan.com) those tests were gimmicked by raising the idle after the installation.

But the main contention is NOx... sana mag-implement na ang DENR ng NOx regulations... an-grabe na talaga ng acid rain dito... ukit na ukit ang mga patak ng ulan sa finish ng mga kotse namin!

[the_wildthing]

I asked how the tests were done. I asked for documents of the procedures. I asked how many vehicles.

Sadly, the clean air act IRR might not actually require passing NOx tests. Any lawyers want to confirm this?

[doc eric]

Sadly, the clean air act IRR might not actually require passing NOx tests. Any lawyers want to confirm this? [/B][/QUOTE]

Maybe this can help :


Excerpt from the CLean Air Act 1999:

"ARTICLE FOUR
Pollution from Motor Vehicles
Sec. 21. Pollution from Motor Vehicles. a) The DOTC shall implement the emission standards for motor vehicles set pursuant to and as provided in this Act. To further improve the emission standards, the Department shall review, revise and publish the

standards every two (2) years, or as the need arises. It shall consider the maximum limits for all major pollutants to ensure substantial improvement in air quality for the health, safety and welfare of the general public.

The following emission standards for type approval of motor vehicles shall be effective by the year 2003:

a.) For light duty vehicles, the exhausts emission limits for gaseous pollutants shall be:

Emission Limits for Light Duty Vehicles
Type Approval

(Directive 91/441/EEC)

CO (g/km) 2.72
HC + NOx (g/km) 0.97
PM (g/km) 0.14


snip....

Taken from: http://www.tanggol.org/environmental_laws/cleanair.html

[doc eric]

The person to talk to (technical)...is Ms. Ella Deocadiz of Env Management Bureau Research and Devpt....... she should be able to answere queries on testing procedures.........

From the EMB website:

ella_deocadiz*emb.gov.ph
426-4332 to 39.