oil leak found, diagnosis / estimation repair: crankshaft / camshaft seals,tie rods

[mazerom]

hi guys,

im just a newbie in the mechanics of car.i went to petron shop offering free inspection on the underchassis.i had been grieving on my frontal suspension part or transmission or absorber.it happened after i accidentally rolled through a set of deep holes.at smooth road, my car seems to move perfectly and smoothly but in some bumps when i dont do it super smooth, i feel and hear some "squeaking" noise in front.i feel that it has something to do with my shock absorber...im not sure though..
the diagnosis of the petron boys are oil leaks coming from the crankshaft/camshaft, tie rod loose at both ends, rack end problem..
now these are their estimations:

* labor for suspension?
replace tie rod : 320
replace rack end:320
wheel alignment:450

*materials for suspension?(not original daw)
tie rod : 3250
rack end:3770

*labor for oil leak
pull down transmission:1800
*materials
crankshaft oil seal:1014
camshaft oil seal:975


he also added these :
timing belt(orig):4940
tensioner:2145

1. i'm just a newbie here.please comments
if the estimations are reasonable or if you have a
recommended shop near quezon city or fairview
or nearby cities...
2. i'm not sure if my timing belt was changed by the previous owner.
how will i know when to change it?
3. how much does a preventive maintenance costs?

my auto specs: 95hondacivicesi/91,000km/MT

[aceshark]

bro, dalhin mo na lang sa ZEE sa aurora blvd. look for mang toti. mabait yun. mas mura aabutin nung sayo. yung sa akin, halos pareho ng sayo, 3.5K petot lang lahat.

[mazerom]

bro, dalhin mo na lang sa ZEE sa aurora blvd. look for mang toti. mabait yun. mas mura aabutin nung sayo. yung sa akin, halos pareho ng sayo, 3.5K petot lang lahat.

kasama na ba parts dun?
san parte?tel no? or office hourS?

thanks!

[jolads]

sobrang mahal singil sa yo, just look for another shop and better change the timing belt. huwag ka ng bumalik sa petron shop na yan

[mazerom]

ganun ba?cgur0 ginugulangan ako kasi alam nila newbie ako..haaay buti na lng..actually naaasar nga ako deep inside kc obvious na they are after the money.kung ano ano pananakot at paninira regarding the condition of my car na talagang explicitly na pinapakita yung mga diagnosis nila..buti na lng d ako nadala..
baka nman may alam kau na shop?

thanks!

[mazerom]

nga pala, na basa ko regarding sa CRUVEN injectable system for suspensions...is this advisable on the long term?how does it compare sa pricing at labor ng replacement?
ask ko na rin san maganda bumili ng suspension parts?yung honda may promo sila malaki discount up to 75%

[OTEP]

ZEE and Cruven use the same systems. Sa Cruven ko dinala yung Pajero Field Master for suspension work dati kasi mas malaki space dun. Satisfied naman ako. But take note, hindi ako nag-parefill ng shocks. I bought my own new shocks and they installed for me. Sulit naman ang price, labor is reasonable.

For medium to big mechanical works (in your case, the T-belt and oil leak), I bring my rig to Class-A Motorcraft in Banawe. It is beside Equipt and near North Park near the corner of Retiro. But you have to be early (7 am). Otherwise, mamumuti na mata mo dahil sobrang dami ng nagpapagawa dun.

[mazerom]

ZEE and Cruven use the same systems. Sa Cruven ko dinala yung Pajero Field Master for suspension work dati kasi mas malaki space dun. Satisfied naman ako. But take note, hindi ako nag-parefill ng shocks. I bought my own new shocks and they installed for me. Sulit naman ang price, labor is reasonable.

For medium to big mechanical works (in your case, the T-belt and oil leak), I bring my rig to Class-A Motorcraft in Banawe. It is beside Equipt and near North Park near the corner of Retiro. But you have to be early (7 am). Otherwise, mamumuti na mata mo dahil sobrang dami ng nagpapagawa dun.

thanks for the info..
sir, do u have any idea kung magkano yung papalitan ko yung crankshat/camshaft oil seals kasama na labor at materials kc sobrang bilis maubos ng engine oil ko...kanina tanghali nasa between nung max at min tapos nilagyan ko hanggang sa max..ngayon below kalahati na lng....
thanks!

[OTEP]

Sorry, hindi pa kasi ako nagpapalit niyan. The best thing to do is pa-check mo ulit (e.g. sa Class-A), para maconfirm na yun nga ang problema.

Another favored shop here at Tsikot is Speedyfix. Maybe the other posters can chime in with the address and number of the shop. Or you could PM Migs (aka speedyfix). Tsikoteer naman siya.

[speedyfix]

comments in caps....

hi guys,

im just a newbie in the mechanics of car.i went to petron shop offering free inspection on the underchassis.i had been grieving on my frontal suspension part or transmission or absorber.it happened after i accidentally rolled through a set of deep holes.at smooth road, my car seems to move perfectly and smoothly but in some bumps when i dont do it super smooth, i feel and hear some "squeaking" noise in front.i feel that it has something to do with my shock absorber...im not sure though..
the diagnosis of the petron boys are oil leaks coming from the crankshaft/camshaft, tie rod loose at both ends, rack end problem..
now these are their estimations:

* labor for suspension?
replace tie rod : 320
replace rack end:320
wheel alignment:450

*materials for suspension?(not original daw)
tie rod : 3250 (ARE THEY CRAZY?? SUPER MAHAL NITO FOR REPLACEMENT PARTS)
rack end:3770 (DITTO)

*labor for oil leak
pull down transmission:1800 (LABOR IN THE SHOP IS 1500)
*materials
crankshaft oil seal:1014 (BIG OR SMALL?)
camshaft oil seal:975 (MAHAL!)


he also added these :
timing belt(orig):4940 (BILI KA SA HONDA IT'S PROBABLY 1500-1700 LANG)
tensioner:2145 (GET A REPLACEMENT TENSIONER, NOT MORE THAN 1K)

1. i'm just a newbie here.please comments
if the estimations are reasonable or if you have a
recommended shop near quezon city or fairview
or nearby cities...
2. i'm not sure if my timing belt was changed by the previous owner.
how will i know when to change it?
3. how much does a preventive maintenance costs?

my auto specs: 95hondacivicesi/91,000km/MT

they're trying to pull a fast one on you... ingat!

[finchy18]

subra mahal naman IMO. replacement pa nman.

[easydeal]

mazerom, i had the same problem you mentioned above. i brought it to ZEE and they fixed it. their labor was 700. but i got great savings on the injectibles, like:
- stab link P2200 for new, P200 sa zee
- shock absorber P4000 for new, P1800 sa zee
- etc etc

they also offer 15,000km warranty on these repairs; which is more than you will get from petron or casa.

check out the thread on cruven or zee. thats where it got me started.

[theveed]

Mahal sobra quote nila sayo pre...

[easydeal]

Mahal sobra quote nila sayo pre...

Hi theveed. Tnx. Which one is expensive?

On Front ...
The stab link is P200/pair. There were bushings replaced from everywhere, and each joint removed and inspected (ball joints, tie rods, rack end, etc.) ... all for P700 labor. I actually found it the same as price listed from Cruven website.

At the Rear ...
The shock absorber injection were P1200/pair + P200 service/pair + P400 worth of shocks seals kasi nag-leak na sila.

Appreciate your inputs, bro.

[Galactus]

Hi theveed. Tnx. Which one is expensive?

On Front ...
The stab link is P200/pair. There were bushings replaced from everywhere, and each joint removed and inspected (ball joints, tie rods, rack end, etc.) ... all for P700 labor. I actually found it the same as price listed from Cruven website.

At the Rear ...
The shock absorber injection were P1200/pair + P200 service/pair + P400 worth of shocks seals kasi nag-leak na sila.

Appreciate your inputs, bro.

Hehe, I think theveed was referring to the threadstarter's post (mazerom), and not you, when he said na mahal sobra yung quotation...

[raine]

Bro galing ako sa shop na sinbi nyo na nagiinject ng polymer sa joint, mura ng ito sa materials ang labor, kaya lang meron akong napansin yung ineenject ba nila na polymer ano ba ito parang grease lang ba ito? kasi noong nagpagawa ako habang hinihintay ko ang sasakyan medyo naglakadlakad ako sa loob ng shop nila at yung process ay hindi mo makikita at ginagawa ito sa itaas, kaya lang habang naghihintay ako madidinig mo sa itaas nila malalakas na palo sa bakal. at noong ibaba na yung sa parts na inenject nila makikita mo merong mga deformates sa housing nito, kaya tinanong ko yung nagdala kung ano ba ang ginawa nila dito parang pinalo lang para sumikip at nilagyan lang ng grease. ayaw naman magsabi yung boy na nagdala wala daw siyang alam, kasi bago nila dalhin yung parts ko tinignan ko muna ang condition nito kung talagang maluwag na ng batalaga at para macompare ko kung meron ng pinagbago pagkatapos nilang ayusin, ang comment ko lang ay sumikip ng ito pero ang housing nito nagkaroon ng mga yupi parang nilagyan ito ng socket saka pinalo ng malakas para maging masikip uli. at ito pa merong silang inenject na ball joint pero nasira ng isang mekaniko nila yung bolt nito, naputol yung nilalagyan ng cotter pin kaya bumili nalang ako ng bago at iyon ang inilagay, inuwi ko ang ball joint ang try to open it at ang laman lang ay parang grease na color red ito ba yung polymer na sinasabi nila or dapat parang teflon ito na inenject nila sa loob at titigas at magkakaroon ng bagong lining sa loob para tumigas ulit ito?

[benzoyl]

may mairerecommend ba kayong shops dito sa south na hindi manloloko?

[afrasay]

anu ba yan, nalubak lang nagka leak na yun crankshaft/camshaft, san ba nakalagay yun? :D anyways kung nasa qc/fairview area ka try autotechnika which is beside metrobank inside fairview. eh nandyan din si speedyfix, mga subok na dito yan.