HELP! Air Intake for my GSR?

[the_wildthing]

CAI - cold air intake, as the name implies. Colder air is almost always good. Problema san mo ilalagay? Pababa? Pano pag bumaha? Tanggal ka ng headlight? Bawal yun sa kalye.

Kung K&N or Simota na filter lang, bale matatanggal lang yung filter box. Puwede ring langyan ng custom enclosure para hindi naiinitan masyado.

Kaso for 1,500 for Simota or 4k for K&N and minimal gain, hmmm... Have you been to the www.mymitsuph.com forum or clubmitsu (I forgot the URL)? Malamang may nakapag-engine swap na run na GSR baka matulungan ka. For a GSR that's the one thing worth spending on. Hirap yan 4G92 SOHC.

[quiksie]

nakakabit sa gsr ko dati k&n na racing filter at exhasust ko from nodalos naging 5zigen. Mag simota ka nalang kung wala ka budget bili ka nalang ng filter charger pang linis pero kung brand contious or kung may extra money ka go for k&n. Namimiss ko na gsr ko hehe

[squala]

You can get K&N drop-in filter, to replace the old paper filter. This means the entire assembly need not be removed. Others say air is also a bit colder than a cone-tube setup. It's a sad thing cold-air intake is not suitable due to occasional floods, but what I'm suggesting should be the best compromise. Moreover, your car still can be classified as stock, especially when reselling. ;)

[Nautilus]

CAI - cold air intake, as the name implies. Colder air is almost always good. Problema san mo ilalagay? Pababa? Pano pag bumaha? Tanggal ka ng headlight? Bawal yun sa kalye.

Kung K&N or Simota na filter lang, bale matatanggal lang yung filter box. Puwede ring langyan ng custom enclosure para hindi naiinitan masyado.

Kaso for 1,500 for Simota or 4k for K&N and minimal gain, hmmm... Have you been to the www.mymitsuph.com forum or clubmitsu (I forgot the URL)? Malamang may nakapag-engine swap na run na GSR baka matulungan ka. For a GSR that's the one thing worth spending on. Hirap yan 4G92 SOHC.

Cold Air Intake, meaning mas aggressive yung position nung mouth ng AIR Filter right? mas nakaposition sya sa baba kaya mas malakas ang air na makukuha nya? ang CAI ba is yung mga EVO's na nakikita ko na naka carbon fiber yung hood then may butas yung hood na may cover na screen then then naka position yung opening? It's either sa ilaw nakalagay yung opening nun or sa may hood right?

pare salamat ah, laking tulong.

Simota and K&N ano difference nya? in terms of performance?

[Nautilus]

nakakabit sa gsr ko dati k&n na racing filter at exhasust ko from nodalos naging 5zigen. Mag simota ka nalang kung wala ka budget bili ka nalang ng filter charger pang linis pero kung brand contious or kung may extra money ka go for k&n. Namimiss ko na gsr ko hehe

anong exhaust yung sinasabi mo bro regarding K&N air filter mo?

[Nautilus]

You can get K&N drop-in filter, to replace the old paper filter. This means the entire assembly need not be removed. Others say air is also a bit colder than a cone-tube setup. It's a sad thing cold-air intake is not suitable due to occasional floods, but what I'm suggesting should be the best compromise. Moreover, your car still can be classified as stock, especially when reselling. ;)

i like your point bro. ang K&N drop filter ba is yung filter lang papalitan? yung iba parang may tubing pa to extend the tubing?

[OTEP]

CAI-hindi sa engine compartment kumukuha ng hangin ang air intake. Either sa ilalim, before the engine or sa loob ng fender depending on application. Though karamihan ng CAI systems talagang sa ilalim papunta. Halos kapantay ng oil pan ng sasakyan mo. Pwede ka ma-hydrolock unless napakaingat mo.

Open type air intake-palit ka ng intake pipe and gamit mo yung cone-type filter parang Simota, K&N, HKS, etc. Your choice between foam and cotton gauze filter element. Makes sucking sounds esp. at full throttle but easily drowned out by stock sound system.

Drop in air filters use the stock intake assembly but substitutes the paper filter element for a reusable (foam or cg, etc.) filter which is freer flowing.

Fusion R is along E. Rodriquez near Balete Drive.

IMHO, I'd stick to the stock intake system since gains are minimal with open systems and I'd like to maintain the noise suppression and anti-water ingestion features of the stock intake system.

[the_wildthing]

Yung butas sa ibabaw ng hood ng evo para sa intercooler ng turbo yun.

If you go through the www.howstuffworks.com articles on engines and turbos, you'll get the idea.

[KrisKros]

You can make your own CAI: http://www.canddsolutions.com/Accent...0Own%20AEM.htm
there's other sites also that teaches you how to make them

CAI.. I guess it's ok.. intakes don't make a BIG difference, sometimes its not even noticeable. CAIs..They're usually more helpful when you're already going at a fast pace..such as freeway/highway speed..crusing speed.

Short RAM intakes are good for quick springs..quick accelerations from slower speeds.

[Nautilus]

CAI - cold air intake, as the name implies. Colder air is almost always good. Problema san mo ilalagay? Pababa? Pano pag bumaha? Tanggal ka ng headlight? Bawal yun sa kalye.

Kung K&N or Simota na filter lang, bale matatanggal lang yung filter box. Puwede ring langyan ng custom enclosure para hindi naiinitan masyado.

Kaso for 1,500 for Simota or 4k for K&N and minimal gain, hmmm... Have you been to the www.mymitsuph.com forum or clubmitsu (I forgot the URL)? Malamang may nakapag-engine swap na run na GSR baka matulungan ka. For a GSR that's the one thing worth spending on. Hirap yan 4G92 SOHC.

dude nakita ko na, sa k&n's sa model ng car ko wala sila aluminum pipe with tubing, filter lang ang para sa car ko. sa simota naman cone type filter na nakakabit sa aluminum tubing to extend yung intake system na oem ng car.

considered CAI na ba yung may aluminum tubing na simota's then sa end yung cone filter type? may effect ba to sa consumption ng gas?

thanks man.

i've tried and registered na sa mymitsu.ph kaya lang hindi ko pa ma view yung mga forums nila, need to attend one of their eb's pa and pay 500 for me to become a bonifide member and to be able to access most content's of their site.

thanks for the help bro.

nalilito kasi ako dun sa may aluminum tubing and cone filter type ng simota's eh, eto na ba yung cAI?

[OTEP]

Simota is still an underhood system. It's only cold air when you get air from outside the engine compartment. Underneath the engine compartment, in front, inside the fender (between the inner and outer fender).

Keep in mind that the metal piping also heats up, raising the temperature of your ingested air.

[Nautilus]

Simota is still an underhood system. It's only cold air when you get air from outside the engine compartment. Underneath the engine compartment, in front, inside the fender (between the inner and outer fender).

Keep in mind that the metal piping also heats up, raising the temperature of your ingested air.

ah ok.. now i understand bro.
pero kung racing filters lang papalitan ko? may improvement na din ba?
thanks.

[luckytruck]

dinaanan ko na rin yan. did the simota thing on my civic. sounded good. raised the shift point on my automatic by about 300rpm. but if i had to do it all over again. i would spend more money on rims and tires and soundsystem rather than boltons for my engine. if you really want better perfoemance, it would be more reliable to sell your slower car and buy a faster car. i moved from my simota'd civic to a stock VR6 and bought some nice 17 inch rims and tires, masaya na ako

[Nautilus]

dinaanan ko na rin yan. did the simota thing on my civic. sounded good. raised the shift point on my automatic by about 300rpm. but if i had to do it all over again. i would spend more money on rims and tires and soundsystem rather than boltons for my engine. if you really want better perfoemance, it would be more reliable to sell your slower car and buy a faster car. i moved from my simota'd civic to a stock VR6 and bought some nice 17 inch rims and tires, masaya na ako

hehe.. ngayon pa nga lang ako na daan sa ganitong stage, kaya medyo excited pa. i get your point bro.

racing filter siguro ok na sa akin, kahit wala na yung aluminum tubing.

and yep i already spent my money on rims and tires. i'm not into speed driving anyway, more on the aesthetic side of driving and efficient gas consumption.

thanks bro.

[quiksie]

pag gsr hindi mo na kailangan ng aluminum tubing kasi ready na yun kabitan ng airfilter. Isa pa is nakakabit na yun sensor dun sa kabitan ng airfilter

[Nautilus]

pag gsr hindi mo na kailangan ng aluminum tubing kasi ready na yun kabitan ng airfilter. Isa pa is nakakabit na yun sensor dun sa kabitan ng airfilter

hindi naman magagalaw yung sensor ko once i change into K&N's or Simota right?

hindi ba mas malakas ang intake ng air pag cone filter type? thanks.

[mazdamazda]

ah ok.. now i understand bro.
pero kung racing filters lang papalitan ko? may improvement na din ba?
thanks.

minimal...

and even so... any gains is negated by the fact that unshielded open-type filters will suck in hot air coming from the engine compartment (resulting in a not so good fuel consumption).

try to also install a heat shield for your open-type filter... and place it as far as possible from the radiator and engine block.

btw, you are trading off better filteration (stock paper filter) against slightly better breathing (foam / gauze filter).

[bhongskie]

Keep in mind that the metal piping also heats up, raising the temperature of your ingested air.

pasali po sa tech-talks... very interesting...


sir otep, as what you have said, ano po ba ang mgagiging result when piping heats sa engine? i had given kasi a simota which i just installed yesterday for testing... medyo umingay yung makina, then yun nga, mainit din yung piping... my car is 2 years old from new, baka kasi magkaroon ng diperensya sa engine... better to know the consequences now before i am going to loose my whole engine! my engine is 4g18 sohc, 1.6 lit...



im planning to change the filter with heat shield, does it makes sense?

[niky]

A heat shield is a good idea... it helps cut down temperature a bit. As for hot piping, it won't hurt your engine but will lower performance (hot pipes=hot air=less power) and may be bad for your sensors in the long run. Some people compensate by insulating
the pipes, others use plastic instead. I just used my stock tubing to avoid problems.

[bhongskie]

thanks * niky! but does metal things serves as a conductor?

If you think the pipe is hot, that's because at a stop, the ambient engine bay temp rises before it begins to cool down. But when you're running, the flow of air over and inside the tube lowers the actual temp...everywhere. Think "windchill factor" a.k.a., which is cooler: a hot day, or a hot day (same temp) but the wind is blowing?

Second, metal is a better heat conductor than rubber, meaning to say that although it heats up quickly, it also removes heat faster, especially if there's airflow "wicking" away that heat.

That the tube heats up is actually a good sign, because theoretically, it's absorbing the heat from the air passing inside it, therefore cooling the air going into the system.

i am wondering now what is the best?