Gas saving device

[ghosthunter]

Originally posted by odeereambillo
Sir Ghosthunter,

should we do the demo para di tayo ma-divert sa issue at hand?

thanks & more POWER!

Odee
S&PT

I'd rather see the hard numbers and data first before anything else please. And I think the other people would too.

I think as an engineer, you would understand.

[odeereambillo]

Sir Ghosthunter,

i believe na-banggit na po sa thread din na to ung mga nakita nina bluegsr and raijuta na values.

vacuum reading would almost be the same after installation (2 inHg). before installation, depending on the condition of your auto. 17 inHg on the average, 20 kung very good condition pa.

Vacuum gauge is tapped at either PCV or brake servo.

Anything else sir?

Odee

[odeereambillo]

Sir Ghosthunter,

You also mentioned about someone who does stoich test, san nga po yun?

interested din po ako para once and for all malaman ko rin kung tama ba ang ginagawa ng binebenta ko.

I believe it pays to be transparent in everything you do.

As you may have noticed, i registered here in this board (or even in other groups) with my full name (not a code name).

I dont intend to hide anything nor mislead anybody.

thanks & more POWER!

Odee
S&PT

[pink_cadillac]

Yes but you are posting as a party with apparent direct commercial interests. Naturally you will be scorned and/or subject to criticism et skepticism.

Both of which you will have to satisfy.

[pink_cadillac]

Odee, will it void my car's warranty?

[niky]

Originally posted by odeereambillo
Sir Ghosthunter,

i believe na-banggit na po sa thread din na to ung mga nakita nina bluegsr and raijuta na values.

vacuum reading would almost be the same after installation (2 inHg). before installation, depending on the condition of your auto. 17 inHg on the average, 20 kung very good condition pa.

Vacuum gauge is tapped at either PCV or brake servo.

Anything else sir?

Odee

Okay... as ghosthunter has said, testimonial evidence doesn't really count... and mr. rajuta's actions have not exactly been encouraging... bordering on scandalous.

With great respect, sir, the vacuum issue is not what we would like to see addressed... as so many have mentioned previously, it both the overall effect on the automobile and the possibility of poor NOx emissions (which were mentioned in this thread from almost the very beginning) that are of contention.

Violations of NOx emissions automatically make a car fail EURO4 testing, and as most manufacturers have complied with such, it may not be long before our government implements them.

The lean-burn engine is nothing new, but by making the engine work outside its electronically controlled parameters, one cannot assume the lifespan, cleanliness and performance of the engine will not be affected.

Many modern engines are already running a fine line between compromised performance, fuel economy and pollution control. Changing an airfilter or muffler won't affect these greatly, as these only control the amount of air entering and exiting the system. But ALTERING the intermediate steps in the process can mess things up very badly.

So far as I can see, these threads are going nowhere. It is only the hardcore skeptics who are staying in, and who are facing an ever-changing array of salesmen, 'testers' and inventors. I doubt anyone who has stayed this long is really willing to be convinced of anything... and unless some solid information and reliable data comes up, no one will be.

[odeereambillo]

Pink,

I actually dont mind skeptics and critics. In fact they serve me a good purpose. I am able to clarify issues na hindi ako ang nag-push/start.

if your auto is ford-made, no problem! you can check this with any ford dealer. I believe Ford Phil is applying for exclusive distributorship from Mr Planas na sila na ang magiging exclusive dealer sa Philippines sa lahat ng Ford.

For those Ford skeptics, you can wait till Ford Phil gets the deal. Di ko lang sure kung same parin price.

FYI also, Shell Phil is doing the same. Di ko rin sure kung ganun parin price after Shell gets the deal. In fact, di rin ako sure kung dealer/distributor pa ako by that time, big companies na kasi ang pumasok.

thanks pink!

Odee

PS

naka-install nako ng vios 2004 (its actually GMA 7's Raffy Tima's auto) he didnt mind the warranty void i guess. Also installed one on Camera man, Don ??? who happens to have a 2004 Altis. Ung kay Ivan Mayrina 4Runner na 2.4 li (from 4km/li to 8.5 km/li)

[ghosthunter]

Originally posted by odeereambillo
Sir Ghosthunter,

As you may have noticed, i registered here in this board (or even in other groups) with my full name (not a code name).

Do not divert the topic. Anything else other than the device, its functions and claims will be considered OFF-TOPIC.

I dont intend to hide anything nor mislead anybody.

let's see.

[ghosthunter]

Originally posted by odeereambillo

PS

naka-install nako ng vios 2004 (its actually GMA 7's Raffy Tima's auto) he didnt mind the warranty void i guess. Also installed one on Camera man, Don ??? who happens to have a 2004 Altis. Ung kay Ivan Mayrina 4Runner na 2.4 li (from 4km/li to 8.5 km/li)

more testimonials? :freak:

[ghosthunter]

Originally posted by odeereambillo
Sir Ghosthunter,

i believe na-banggit na po sa thread din na to ung mga nakita nina bluegsr and raijuta na values.

vacuum reading would almost be the same after installation (2 inHg). before installation, depending on the condition of your auto. 17 inHg on the average, 20 kung very good condition pa.

Vacuum gauge is tapped at either PCV or brake servo.

Anything else sir?

Odee

so what is the 2inHg reading? change in vacuum pressure before and after or actual reading from the pressure guage?

[odeereambillo]

Originally posted by niky
Okay... as ghosthunter has said, testimonial evidence doesn't really count... and mr. rajuta's actions have not exactly been encouraging... bordering on scandalous.

With great respect, sir, the vacuum issue is not what we would like to see addressed... as so many have mentioned previously, it both the overall effect on the automobile and the possibility of poor NOx emissions (which were mentioned in this thread from almost the very beginning) that are of contention.

Violations of NOx emissions automatically make a car fail EURO4 testing, and as most manufacturers have complied with such, it may not be long before our government implements them.

The lean-burn engine is nothing new, but by making the engine work outside its electronically controlled parameters, one cannot assume the lifespan, cleanliness and performance of the engine will not be affected.

Many modern engines are already running a fine line between compromised performance, fuel economy and pollution control. Changing an airfilter or muffler won't affect these greatly, as these only control the amount of air entering and exiting the system. But ALTERING the intermediate steps in the process can mess things up very badly.

So far as I can see, these threads are going nowhere. It is only the hardcore skeptics who are staying in, and who are facing an ever-changing array of salesmen, 'testers' and inventors. I doubt anyone who has stayed this long is really willing to be convinced of anything... and unless some solid information and reliable data comes up, no one will be.

thanks sir!

as regards the NOx emission, is there a facility you can suggest where we can have the device tested?

I'd be more than glad and willing!

Honestly, I dont know kung pasado nga siya sa NOx. that's why i said yes to blugsr and raijuta's request.

But AFAIK, Inventionhaus already had the device tested at DENR very recently. It also passed Bantay-Usok/Bantay Kalikasan's test. But i guess that would be self-serving.

Should I ask a representative from the group to witness the testing of NOx emission? Para wala nang skeptics.

what you think mga Sir/Ma'am?

Odee

[odeereambillo]

Originally posted by ghosthunter
so what is the 2inHg reading? change in vacuum pressure before and after or actual reading from the pressure guage?

Sir,

sorry for not clarifying that.

before installation, vac-reading is 17 inHg at idle and varies depending on what stage your engine is in. Initially drops when throttle is opened and goes up as RPM stabilizes, Vac-reading then escalates (up to 25 inHg even 30 at times) as throttle is released as if simulating gear shifting, braking and/or engine breaking. after the device is installed, 2inHg vacuum reading is achieved and will stay the same all through out, even during idle, gear shifting, braking and engine braking.

Ma-e-explain ko po ng maayos and ma-a-appreciate niyo pa po during actual demo.

Salamat po.

Odee

[odeereambillo]

Originally posted by ghosthunter
more testimonials? :freak:

Yes Sir!

Very true, in fact!

You can just imagine the risk i took when we installed the device in their autos. They are people in the TV industry who can easily air their discontent (kung meron man) So far wala pa naman.

thanks & more POWER!

Odee

[ghosthunter]

Originally posted by odeereambillo
Yes Sir!

Very true, in fact!

You can just imagine the risk i took when we installed the device in their autos. They are people in the TV industry who can easily air their discontent (kung meron man) So far wala pa naman.

thanks & more POWER!

Odee

at the same time, these are the people who know very little about the technical aspects about their cars.

Please, keep to the topic. NO TESTIMONIALS! Only technical data would be considered.

[the_wildthing]

The thing with inventions is that it has to have gone through scientific tests by peers and experts alike. These things are recorded, published in some scientific journal, etc etc. All chemical and physical reactions are noted. It seems this product hasn't gone through that and just went straight to marketing the damn thing.

Sure at first it does seem to work to some. But if you look at the numbers (where are they by the way?) something could be amiss.

And scientific tests don't mean one or two at the DOST. No offense, but our national science & technology program isn't one to be proud of (lack of budget I suppose).

Which is why the engineers here are looking for those. Only based on scientific evidence could they conclude that the thing works.

Personally, I'm waiting for expert opinion. Otherwise, I think the product is crap.

[the_wildthing]

I've lifted this text from a standard document created to protect your Intellectual Property when publishing it, and when applying for patent, at least in the US. The inventor should be able to supply these sections immediately:

3. Concise Description of the Invention with Drawings/Full Abstract

Your disclosure should enable someone having knowledge of the field to understand the invention. Include all essential elements (features, concepts, or new results of the invention, whichever is most applicable), their relationship to one another, and their mode of operation. Identify the elements that are considered novel. Also, if the invention is an apparatus or system, attach drawings or a sketch and indicate if it has ever been built or tested. Use additional pages, attach drawings, manuscripts, papers, or other supporting material to facilitate understanding of the invention.

This is the full description of your idea, how it works, and why it works. This does not necessarily have to be as simplistic as the non enabling abstract. The full abstract would be best described as your description of your idea to a colleague or peer. Although most abstracts are held to one hundred words or less, please feel free to take as much space as you need to fully describe the idea.

4. Technical Data Summary

This is the data which proves that your device/idea works.

If you have begun testing a device or gathering and analyzing performance data for your device, you will have generated technical data.

[OTEP]

Originally posted by ghosthunter
well, I could always say "partially cover" and not FULLY cover the intake.

Hehehe. At least it proves that vacum pressure does change with throttle application.

Btw, the product is approved by Ford DEALERS, not the Ford MOTOR COMPANY itself. And we all know how much dealers know about their wares. :drool:

[ghosthunter]

Originally posted by OTEP

Btw, the product is approved by Ford DEALERS, not the Ford MOTOR COMPANY itself. And we all know how much dealers know about their wares. :drool:

Good point!

[orly_andico]

mazdamazda,

is the "lambda sensor" the same as the O2 sensor? since when did cars in the Philippines come with catalytic converters?

[ghosthunter]

the AE111 corolla 1.6 is equipted with a catalytic converter.