Gas saving device

**buknoy2002** · October 9th, 2004 09:05 PM

Originally posted by the_wildthing

Personally, I'm waiting for expert opinion. Otherwise, I think the product is crap.

Questionlang po.

Who in this forum can give an "expert opinion"?

Migs one time made a test of one gas saving product a few months. the results were posted in another car forum and i believe was also posted here. Just cant remember the products name.

can he give the expert opinion that we all want to get?

**squala** · October 10th, 2004 12:59 AM

First, our country may not have the facilities and devices that can test whether or not KHAOS is beneficial after all, especially the issue on NOx. Local car magazines do not even use precise gadgets to test performance and economy of cars sold in the country, so what more aftermarket parts?

Second, just so your dealer says a certain device does all good and no bad for your car doesn't mean it's absolutely true. As I have experienced, I even have more factual knowledge of locally-sold cars than the dealers who are promoting them.

Third, testimonials do not prove any truth or falsity about something. It can be mere flattery or total bullsh!t. There's so many of that in Friendster. So as far as KHAOS is concerned, a test that must be seen by our own two eyes is the only thing that can show its true colors.

**niky** · October 10th, 2004 11:30 AM

Originally posted by OTEP
Hehehe. At least it proves that vacum pressure does change with throttle application.

Btw, the product is approved by Ford DEALERS, not the Ford MOTOR COMPANY itself. And we all know how much dealers know about their wares. :drool:

I agree with ghosthunter! Good point!

**odeereambillo** · October 10th, 2004 03:27 PM

Originally posted by squala
First, our country may not have the facilities and devices that can test whether or not KHAOS is beneficial after all, especially the issue on NOx. Local car magazines do not even use precise gadgets to test performance and economy of cars sold in the country, so what more aftermarket parts?

Second, just so your dealer says a certain device does all good and no bad for your car doesn't mean it's absolutely true. As I have experienced, I even have more factual knowledge of locally-sold cars than the dealers who are promoting them.

Third, testimonials do not prove any truth or falsity about something. It can be mere flattery or total bullsh!t. There's so many of that in Friendster. So as far as KHAOS is concerned, a test that must be seen by our own two eyes is the only thing that can show its true colors.

Sir,

would you like to test the product? free of charge & no commitment...

thanks po & more POWER!

Odee

**ghosthunter** · October 10th, 2004 05:47 PM

Originally posted by odeereambillo
Sir,

would you like to test the product? free of charge & no commitment...

thanks po & more POWER!

Odee

You are changing the topic again. All we want to hear from you is actual data and facts. No testimonials.

Why are you pushing so hard for a product test/demo when all we are currently asking is data evidence? Are you trying to cover up something here?

**kiper** · October 10th, 2004 06:09 PM

Odee, Meron na bang patent yan? Pwede ko ba makita mga real facts and figures niyo?

Can you post it here or send it to me thru jasonkiper*yahoo.com. I log here everyday, sana may matanggap ako.

**odeereambillo** · October 10th, 2004 06:26 PM

Originally posted by ghosthunter
You are changing the topic again. All we want to hear from you is actual data and facts. No testimonials.

Why are you pushing so hard for a product test/demo when all we are currently asking is data evidence? Are you trying to cover up something here?

Sir,

sorry if you find my offer of demo a change-in-topic tactic. No Sir!

Dami kasi nagtatanong kung sino makakapagsabi ng expert opinion, no one is volunteering. Also, we've been asking kung saang testing centers tayo pwede magpa-test, wala ring sinasabi group.

I thought a demo will be an honest-to-goodness offer. Wala parin.

May i ask for suggestions, Sir?

thanks & more POWER!

fraternally,

Odee

**OTEP** · October 10th, 2004 08:57 PM

We need something more scientific, here. Kind of like a randomized control trial when we are testing new medicines.

**squala** · October 10th, 2004 10:49 PM

Sir,

would you like to test the product? free of charge & no commitment...

thanks po & more POWER!

Odee

I think it would be better first if you can explain how the product really works. I'm not asking what it can do, like optimize economy and reduce emissions, but rather how KHAOS manages to obtain such benefits.

Well, your offer of letting me test the product is fine, but there are risks involved when my car will be used as a guinea pig.

**ghosthunter** · October 10th, 2004 11:08 PM

Originally posted by odeereambillo
Sir,

sorry if you find my offer of demo a change-in-topic tactic. No Sir!

Dami kasi nagtatanong kung sino makakapagsabi ng expert opinion, no one is volunteering. Also, we've been asking kung saang testing centers tayo pwede magpa-test, wala ring sinasabi group.

I thought a demo will be an honest-to-goodness offer. Wala parin.

May i ask for suggestions, Sir?

thanks & more POWER!

fraternally,

Odee

Since you are a dealer of the said device in question, the burden of proof (scientific not testimotials) is on you.

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BTW, I just want to mention this...

My normal milage is about 6-8km/L.

I changed my driving habits and got 12.99km/L result when I filled my gas tank this sunday afternoon.

I achieved this by using the "imaginary-egg-on-the-gas-pedal" technique.