I was saying to measure it after you shut the car off (I mentioned that in my first post in this thread), since you don't wanna attempt to do it while car's running, that, I'd say would take around three minutes after you shut the car off...
My thought is that even if the oil has expanded while the engine's warmed up, the reading will still run lower since a significant amount of oil goes up there; the difference between the area of the warmed up oil and cold oil covers ~ is less than how much oil would stay up throughout the internals when you just shut it off... so you would still want to make the reading while the engine is still warmed up...
Overfiling is a no-no when it comes to all types of engine... I don't get the last question, maybe you meant to ask; how do I determine whether the oil reading is overfilled or not? As a response to that question, I'd still measure it when he engine is warmed up... Hhhmmm, that doesn't make sense, I've bees saying the same thing over and over, you can rephrase your question if you wish to...





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