Whalang Ghanyan sa States!

[ezgrand]

My local battery crapped out again, as I expected on the 21st month on a 20 month warranty. I've always wondered why local batteries crap out just around the time the warranty expires.
I suspect that due to the limited market, the battery makers make sure their products do crap out every two years or so. Para bili ng bili tayo lahat. Planned destruction not obsolesence. Opinions please.

I decided for a change, to install a U.S. AC Delco battery bought from S&R--remembering that those Delcos were guaranteed for a minimum of 48 months and max of 72 for the premium type.

Gulat ko when all they were giving as a warranty was, you guessed it 2 years! I asked the manager sabi nya kaya two years
ma trapik raw dito(walang ganyan sa States) sabi ko have you gotten stuck in hot and dry LA traffic?meron don.

Hindi mainit daw masyado dito(walang ganyan sa States!) how about Arizona? la bang Delco batts don?
I even told him the packaging had the familiar "60" number which refers to 5 yr warranty. (Walang ganyan sa Pinas) We get screwed again.
Let's see if it will last longer than 2 years.

[kiper]

ezgrand, bad trip ung ah?

ung stock motolite ko nga, nadiskarga ko na eh..la pang 1-year..hehe

[AC]

chambahan lang po yata.. yung stock battery ng 2000 lancer gsr ko.. kaka drain lang two weeks ago.. ndi ko lang alam gano katagal waranty nun.. hehe the brand yata is oriental eh.. which is now under motolite kung tama ako.. hehe

[MeshType]

guys try nyo yung Super Power battery. medyo may kamahalan lang pero sa case ko tumagal ng 3 years. sulit na yun for me

[sauman]

siguro nga tsambahan na rin sa pagbili ng baterya yan, yung nakakabit sa aking motolite excel ay malakas pa rin kahit pa lampas 2 yrs na ito in service, while yung motolite gold naman na nakakabit sa sasakyan nu utol ko ay kulay pula na yung bat. indicator wala pa itong 1 year in service.

[OTEP]

I suggest that you just buy a moderately priced local battery. AC Delco is the original equipment and parts supplier for GM (it is a GM subsidy). And we all know how great GM's reliability record is.

I just use a Motolite Enforcer battery. Yung ginagamit ng mga delivery truck at schoolbus. They do last more than two years naman despite me driving with the headlamps on and having an amplifier-powered sound system.

And yes, may traffic sa States. Na-traffic na ko dun. At mas mainit pa sa Pinas ang summer (no wonder may mga namamatay sa heat wave).

[Ungas]

Super Power? Di ba matagal nang obsolete ito sa line-up models ng Motolite ito? They used to be great batteries and mostly used by diesel engines.

[HBOY]

hmm.. i still have super power Macht in my car... hehehe...

[slip-slick]

Originally posted by MeshType
guys try nyo yung Super Power battery. medyo may kamahalan lang pero sa case ko tumagal ng 3 years. sulit na yun for me

mine is going on 4years, and still going strong. talagang kabit and forget!!

[jtdc]

pano niyo malalaman na panahon na para magpalit ng battery? and what's the best battery? ok na ba yung mga motolite tropicalized ones?

[AC]

yeah.. motolite po nung bumili ako 3 kinds lang eh.. enduro gold and excel... as usual.. i bought the cheapest 2sm for my lancer.. hehe..

[ebbfolls]

If AC-Delco is a subsidiary of GM, isnt Motolite a subsidiary of Ford?

Anyways, I think mas grabe "hard life" yung buhay ng automotive batteries dun sa States. I imagine mahihirapan talaga yung mga kotseng umandar dun sa umaga, lalo na pag winter time. Diba me spec yung mga battery na CCA o Cold Cranking Amps? The greater the CCA, the more expensive the battery.

Sa palagay ko, mas maikli buhay ng automotive batteries dito sa atin dahil mas maikli din yung running time ng mga kotse dito kesa dun sa States. Dito, pag na traffic ka ng 2 hrs, halos puro idle lang naman ang speed ng makina, so hindi ito maka-karga sa battery ng husto, lalo na pag naka DRL at A/C pa. Sa States, 1 hr travel time mo pero naka 100 kph+ naman takbo ng sasakyan kaya pagdating sa bahay fully recharged na yung battery.

[ssaloon]

will batteries last longer if you upgraded to a high output alternator? say from stock 75amps, 90amps na yung gamit ko. TIA :D

[Ungas]

Usual signs of weak batteries that need changing are:
- Hard cranking, specially when parked after a few hours.
- Recently recharged but gets drained.
- Low voltage output.
- Leaking cases.

Sa US ang basis nila CCA but local branded batteries have different readouts such as RC = Reserved Capacity, much larger capacity in a small battery the better.

[chieffy]

tsambahan minsan talaga...yung dating kotse ko months old pa lang tinutulak na sa kalye...sira pala yung baterya...hassle pa mag claim ng warranty dahil sasadyain mo pa yung battery dealer...

[slip-slick]

somebody correct me if i'm wrong, but i think the engine rpm has nothing to do with the charging of the battery. the alternator has a voltage regulator that maintains the voltage at about 14volts, no matter what speed the engine is turning. ung sakin kasi, i checked the battery during idle, it was 14+v, but when i revved the engine, the voltage stayed at 14+v. magbabago lang ang voltage reading if the alternator is malfunctioning.

[OTEP]

Originally posted by ebbfolls
If AC-Delco is a subsidiary of GM, isnt Motolite a subsidiary of Ford?

Anyways, I think mas grabe "hard life" yung buhay ng automotive batteries dun sa States. I imagine mahihirapan talaga yung mga kotseng umandar dun sa umaga, lalo na pag winter time. Diba me spec yung mga battery na CCA o Cold Cranking Amps? The greater the CCA, the more expensive the battery.

Sa palagay ko, mas maikli buhay ng automotive batteries dito sa atin dahil mas maikli din yung running time ng mga kotse dito kesa dun sa States. Dito, pag na traffic ka ng 2 hrs, halos puro idle lang naman ang speed ng makina, so hindi ito maka-karga sa battery ng husto, lalo na pag naka DRL at A/C pa. Sa States, 1 hr travel time mo pero naka 100 kph+ naman takbo ng sasakyan kaya pagdating sa bahay fully recharged na yung battery.

I don't think the local Motolite has any ties to Ford. Ford has its own parts making subsidiaries Motocraft (and the electronics firm Visteon).

Batteries here are rated according to their reserve capacities. Meaning how many minutes they can run the vehicle should the charging system fail completely.

Btw, most alternators are generating their full capacity at 2,200 rpm. No need to rev the engine hard.

[ebbfolls]

Slip-slick, Otep;

You guys are right. I had mistakenly associated Motolite with Motocraft, and modern day charging systems do provide enough recharging power at idle. However, engine run time and the frequency of stops and starts do take their toll on the battery over time. Pero palagay ko di naman 'to relevant sa discussion natin.

About the CCA and the Reserve Capacity, I would think that both go together, though one is more relevant than the other in terms of application. The better the charge holding capacity of the battery, the greater the current it can provide at any given temperature. I think these 2 specs are directly related to the number of plates there are in the battery.

[OTEP]

Minsan naiisip ko, its the lack of airflow (from standing still in traffic) that shortens the life.

Yung sa Besta ko kasi dati parating sumasabog dahil sa init. Panget ang location ng battery.

[mbt]

yung OEM AC Delco battery sa venture namin 1 year lang ata yung warranty ng battery, and it died at 13 or 14 or 15 months or something like that. wala pang replacement AC Delco battery sa GM Autoworld, at P6,500 daw yung replacement (as if exotic, super-premium brand ng AC Delco ha). motolite na din lang yung pinangpalit namin.