Baha--knee Deep

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Mukhang nabasa lang ang clutch. Try to use it for a few more days. Baka my nakapasok na contaminants sa clutch housing (mud, etc.).

You are not supposed to step on the clutch when crossing water (unless you had to stop in the middle).

Old wives' tail lang yung tapak sa clutch and high rev sa tubig. Most cars wil happily idle even with the tailpipe underwater. Nakakaba lang sa una.

hi otep. are you sure about this? di naman ako old wife ("old" lang hehe) pero ito na ang nakasanayan ko (worked for me in several experiences in college). high rev at timpla ng clutch para hindi mabarahan ang tambutso ng tubig. what's wrong with clutch driving in flood waters? ito din kasi ang turo ko sa driver ko.

but then again, nung dating binabaha ako nung college, sanay ako sa mga carburated na mga makina. di pa uso ang mga EFI nun kasi.

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Make sure you have your cit gets underside greasing asap. Better yet, have the casa or other trusted establishment check on your ride. Explain the situation fully to them and have them give you an assessment/estimate repair cost first before proceeding with the actual service or repair.

A mechanic once showed me that the aircon compressor of the city is located very low in relation to the ground.

please correct me if i'm wrong pero hindi na ata nag-g-gresing sa ilalim ng kotse. puro assembly at sealed parts na kasi ang mga nasa pang-ilalim ng kotse.

noong 1970's at early 80's uso ito though.

[OTEP]

Contaminants can get in between the clutch disc and flywheel. That's why you should only ford when the coast (pardon the pun) is clear so you don't have to step on the clutch mid-stream.

The engine makes sufficient pressure to clear the exhaust by itself. We are not under 100m of water or anything.

The habit is hard to break. Parati ako nasisigawan ng instructor. But with practice, you can build confidence. Iba talaga ang tunog ng exhaust sa ilalim ng tubig. Parang mamamatay pero hindi naman.

Applicable naman for EFI and Carb. Halo naman yung group namin dati. May mga old school at later models.

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Contaminants can get in between the clutch disc and flywheel. That's why you should only ford when the coast (pardon the pun) is clear so you don't have to step on the clutch mid-stream.

The engine makes sufficient pressure to clear the exhaust by itself. We are not under 100m of water or anything.

The habit is hard to break. Parati ako nasisigawan ng instructor. But with practice, you can build confidence. Iba talaga ang tunog ng exhaust sa ilalim ng tubig. Parang mamamatay pero hindi naman.

Applicable naman for EFI and Carb. Halo naman yung group namin dati. May mga old school at later models.

thanks. i-correct ko na din ang driver ko.

[kimpOy]

Parati ako nasisigawan ng instructor. But with practice, you can build confidence. Iba talaga ang tunog ng exhaust sa ilalim ng tubig. Parang mamamatay pero hindi naman.

baka naman si then PORCI VP...

2 LOW GO GO GO...NO CLUTCH!!!!

[XTO]

[QUOTE=Viper;615885]arrrrgh....



flood was knee deep, driving a honda city, placed the car at reverse and hazard but inconsiderate drivers at my back didnt want to move back, thus i was forced to go forward,,


if i were you. no way to force my city. you have put your hazard.

that's a clear sign that you have no intention to continue.

It’s up to them to pass if they want to push thru.

It’s going to be the same once you stall in the middle.

[JohnM]

Naabutan na rin ako ng baha sa exact same area last week. Problema kasi sa street na yan kahit normal days at most 1.5 lanes lang ang passable dahil may nakaparadang mga #$(**#$* na pedicab sa sidewalk. No escape talaga dahil may center island at walang butas. Besides baha na rin ang opposite lanes. If you get caught there no choice kelangan ituloy na lang unless you want to wait for the water to get deeper.

Buti na lang di pa naman umabot sa tambutso since 5 mins pa lang ang ulan. Di ko lang alam kung passable pa rin after kami nakalusot. Pero two hours after tuyo na daw parang walang nangyari.

Lesson learned: EDSA na ako kung umuulan.

[FrankDrebin]

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tnks sa advice, naisip ko nga rin baka nakapasok nga sa clutch. anyway its been 3 days since that day, ala na yung vibration. i think its back to normal. btw, should i have it cleaned?

i wasn't steping on the clutch when i crossed, nabasa ko kasi sa thread d2 dati yung pinost na website. i followed the instructions na 1.5-2rpm lng when crossing para not too slow and not too fast. i never went above 2rpm.

anyway, i guess d masyado sealed yung part na yun ng ford lynx, coz my sister went thru d same flood before me, ahead lng sya ng 5 mins sakin when we got home. i checked her car (kia pride cd5 '94 p yun), it was totally fine. she even told me that she kept on reving the car, so she kept using the clutch.

[Horsepower]

How do you clean the carpet and prevent foul smell of dried flood water?

TIA

[FrankDrebin]

anyway, i guess d masyado sealed yung part na yun ng ford lynx, coz my sister went thru d same flood before me, ahead lng sya ng 5 mins sakin when we got home. i checked her car (kia pride cd5 '94 p yun), it was totally fine. she even told me that she kept on reving the car, so she kept using the clutch.

You wouldn't believe bro, but the Kia Pride is one of the toughest flood forging car. A lot of people look-down on this car but when the heavy rains come I rather ride in a Kia Pride CD5(SUVs, AUVs, light trucks are not in list) than a Honda Civic, etc.

[ronald_m]

You wouldn't believe bro, but the Kia Pride is one of the toughest flood forging car. A lot of people look-down on this car but when the heavy rains come I rather ride in a Kia Pride CD5(SUVs, AUVs, light trucks are not in list) than a Honda Civic, etc.

Probably it's a very basic cars with no sensors on it.

[OTEP]

AFAIR, mataas ang breather ng transmission ng Kia Pride. That's a pretty sealed clutch housing para hindi pasukin ng tubig. Either that or the friction material in the Kia's clutch is not as sensitive to contamination.

[afrasay]

car is manual

honda city 1.5vtec. there were no warning messages in m. no loud noises, but i feel that there is something wrong with it. mejo maingay ang makina and the shifting of gears became a little bit rough

sana tlga nothing bad happend, car is barely a year old and sana naman there are no serious damages.

ronald_m where can i find the engine code?
any help will greatly be appreciated

Baka nabasa lang yun mga linkage na shifter going to the tranny. In a few days balik din sa dati yan. Just remember if your engine stalls do not, do not, try to restart it. Water could have entered your intake manifold and could be in you combustion chambers. As we all know water does not evaporates when ignited unlike gasoline. So imagine if water gets into your chamber, your engine stalls and you try to restart it, your piston goes TDC - say goodbye to your connecting rods.

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Baka nabasa lang yun mga linkage na shifter going to the tranny. In a few days balik din sa dati yan. Just remember if your engine stalls do not, do not, try to restart it. Water could have entered your intake manifold and could be in you combustion chambers. As we all know water does not evaporates when ignited unlike gasoline. So imagine if water gets into your chamber, your engine stalls and you try to restart it, your piston goes TDC - say goodbye to your connecting rods.

hi. pasensya na pero paki-indulge naman ako. yung connecting rod ba ang nagkakabit from piston to crankshaft? anyway, paano nasisira ang connecting rod kapag nasa top dead center ang piston? medyo dense kasi ako with regards to these things

thanks in advance

[afrasay]

hi. pasensya na pero paki-indulge naman ako. yung connecting rod ba ang nagkakabit from piston to crankshaft? anyway, paano nasisira ang connecting rod kapag nasa top dead center ang piston? medyo dense kasi ako with regards to these things

thanks in advance

imagine compressing water instead of burned gaaoline. water becomes almost solid went compressed in the combustion chamber. with your exhaust valves closed your water have no where else to go. so the force would be absorb by the connecting rods w/c tends to bend.

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imagine compressing water instead of burned gaaoline. water becomes almost solid went compressed in the combustion chamber. with your exhaust valves closed your water have no where else to go. so the force would be absorb by the connecting rods w/c tends to bend.

pero di ba sa exhaust stroke ng 4-stroke engine, dapat nakabukas ang exhaust valve(s)? so, kung may water sa chamber, pagakyat ng piston sa exhaust stroke, di ba lalabas lang ito sa exhaust manifold via the exhaust valve? unless lunod na lunod ang combustion chamber ng tubig at hindi kayang lumabas lahat sa exhaust valve.

lastly, does water become almost solid in the combustion chamber? it can become solid at very cold temperatures and, at 4 deg celcius, actually expands in volume. pero at high temperatures (as in internal combustion engines), i would think mas malapit ito sa boiling point.

thanks again. like i said, dense ako sa mga ganitong technical stuff. also, hindi ako engineer so i wouldn't know about these things like the regular engineer. pasensya na sa kulit ko.

[JohnM]

Try ko sumagot hehe

Compression stroke sarado lahat ng valves

Almost or virtually solid. Water is very difficult to compress. It's like falling into the sea from a 1000 ft height. Virtually same impact as when you fall on land

[OTEP]

Water cannot exit the cylinder through the exhaust valve fast enough. And water can actually push the valve shut.

Due to the speed of the engine and general non-compressible state of water, the piston would feel like it just crashed into a concrete wall. Sort of like what happens when an airplane crashes at sea.

[smooth]

Try ko sumagot hehe

Compression stroke sarado lahat ng valves

Almost or virtually solid. Water is very difficult to compress. It's like falling into the sea from a 1000 ft height. Virtually same impact as when you fall on land

thanks. i assumed exhaust stroke kasi sabi niya burnt gasoline