Alegre Exhaust Gas Oxidizer (ego)

[add616reneb]

The device costs from P4,500 - P6,500 only depending on models and sizes of the engines excluding cost of welding as follows:

Price ranges for the five (5) ‘EGO’- size Models:
‘EGO’-1SM (for 1000cc-1500cc engines) PhP4,500
‘EGO’-1 (for 1600cc-2000cc engines) PhP4,500
'EGO’-1XL (for 2.2 lt. – 3.0 lt. engines) PhP5,500
‘EGO’-2 (for 3.2 lt. – 3.5 lt. engines) PhP6,000
‘EGO’-2XL (for Extra large engines) PhP6,500

You could get the devices from me (Res. Tel. 8740183 BFRV, Las Piñas,MM) or Txt at: (0926)3031871. You could also be one of our Dealers.:nerd:

[yebo]

Ok I've seen your email.

From what I've seen I believe this device draws air from the outside of the cylinder due to the vacuum effect caused by the exhaust gas passing through the cylinder. It is akin to a pipe with an air stream being blown through the opening. The air stream draws in air from the outside because of the vacuum created across the opening of the pipe.

Now, if you claim that this additional air oxidizes the unburnt hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide in the exhaust gas, I have a little problem with that. Where is your source of ignition? The flue gas (or exhaust gas in lay terms) is already below the combustion temperature or flash point after it passes through the exhaust pipe. The pipe, because of heat transfer and because of dynamic losses, serves to cool the exhaust. So since it is now at a lower temperature than when it is expelled from the engine cylinder, where is your ignition source?

Another little problem with this is that there is a minimum amount of combustibles needed for ignition and sustained combustion to take place. That is where the term "LEAN MIXTURE" came from in automotive parlance. Too lean a mixture simply will not ignite. Since the flue gas is already a mixtrure of combustion products (mainly CO2 and NOx plus the combustible gases CO and HC and free N2) the addition of air in fact dilutes this mixture even more. Does this diluted mixture of the combustible gases (CO and HC) plus fresh air drawn in by the device still constitute a ignitable combination, given the fact that it is already "LEAN". Unless of course you have in the device a catalyst that causes the CO and HC to further combine with oxygen at that very lean mix.

Another claim you made is that it will guarantee passing of emmision tests. But of course it will, since the inducted air due to the vacuum effect of the venturri in fact mixes with the exhaust gases. This mixing with fresh air will result in a emmision test that will show less CO, HC and NOx because you added air to it. 1 + 1 = 2. exhaust gas + fresh air = (mixture of exhaust gas and fresh air). what the emmision test is measuring is the percentage of CO, HC and NOx in the COMBINED SAMPLE OF EXHAUST GAS AND FRESH AIR. If we are going to go about it in terms of arithmetic, it is simply this:

(percent CO, NOx)/(1 part flue gas) > (percent CO, NOx)/(1 part flue gas + air inducted in the venturri)

Simple arithmetic.

You have in fact found a very convincing way to fool the DENR and DOTC because what was made to appear as a way of reducing emmision is actually a device that dilutes emmision by inducting fresh air to the exhaust. Nothing more.

The DENR and DOTC I can understand, these are not scientific organizations. They just relied on the emmision testing machines and did not know what science goes where and how.

But definitely someone at DOST forgot his math, me thinks. Anyway, I'm not buying.

[ghosthunter]

We could build a device that works nearly the same way as the "EGO" device from mostly off-the-shelf stuff and it would probably not cost 50% of the price stated above.

For more gasoline EFI based engines, a simple (and small) by-pass tube around the intake sensor would be enough. A similar device would work for diesels too.

The amount of "by-passed" air could be adjusted too by adding an adjustable valve (like what you would find in some aquarium tanks but just bigger).

[OTEP]

You really find some of the toughest critics here at Tsikot.com. Be it a new car, a shop, or a new product.

[HBOY]

at least... matetest ang truthfullness ng product... if it passes the remarks and criticism here.... then who knows.. baka nga totoo...

pero tama nga si yebo about the fresh air being mixed with the exhaust emission, making it pass the emission test.... for one thing... nung nabutas ang tambutso sa downpipe nung van ng gf ko.. and had his emission testing done within the week na nabutas... imagine the surprise of the emission testers to find the emission of the van pass the test with flying colors....

emission testing centers... didnt even bother to question the fact the van is screeming hard with the sound of a broken muffler/pipe... the people tasked to conduct the emission testing PROPERLY didnt even bother to check for leaks in the exhaust system that could affect their readouts. (by the way.. just ask.. how often to they calibrate those machines... alam nyo ba kung gaano kamahal magcalibrate ng emission testing machine?..)... *sigh*..


sir add616reneb, wag po sana kayong mainis o mabahala sa mga kataga ng mga posters dito.. gusto lang namin makasigurado na totoo ang claims ng produkto nyo... you'll find a multitude of people here from all walks of life as well as from different industries.. that's why you're product will definitely go under close scrutiny, from perhaps the more knowledgeable people here... hehehe..

as for me.. i await for the results of the discussion on this thread.

[add616reneb]

Originally posted by ghosthunter
We could build a device that works nearly the same way as the "EGO" device from mostly off-the-shelf stuff and it would probably not cost 50% of the price stated above.

For more gasoline EFI based engines, a simple (and small) by-pass tube around the intake sensor would be enough. A similar device would work for diesels too.

The amount of "by-passed" air could be adjusted too by adding an adjustable valve (like what you would find in some aquarium tanks but just bigger).

Your device will be similar to the "AERO-GAS" of Mr. Joseph Martinez and "SUPER TURBO CHARGER" of Mr. Pablo Planas both of which are needed to be installed in the intake manifolds (engine modifications are needed) unlike the EGO which you just weld at the tip of the tail pipe. Also, the "AERO-GAS" and "SUPER TURBO CHARGER" are priced minimum Php 6,500 and above depending on model. :nerd:

[add616reneb]

Originally posted by yebo

But definitely someone at DOST forgot his math, me thinks. Anyway, I'm not buying.

When the EGO won the FIRST PRIZE at 2003 Nat. Inventors Week (Likha Award) , the following were in the Panel of Judges:

Chairman: Engr. Vinci Nicholas R. Villaseñor, Dean- School of Civil Eng'g. & Environmental and Sanitary Engineering: Mapua Inst. of Tech.
Members:
1) Engr. Arthur Lucas C. Cruz, Dep. Exec. Director for Research Operarions: Metals Industry Research & Dev't. Center
2) Prof. Gisela May Albano, Dean- College of Computer Management & Information and Tech: Polytechnic Univ. of the Phil.
3) Mr. Loreto C. Carasi, Sr. Science Research Specialist: Phil. Council for Industry and Energy Research Dev't.

These people are more than qualified to judge that the EGO actually works!:nerd:

[yamot]

I know the inventor personally. Thanks for those who had commented and expressed their interests on the EGO device. But I would address this reply mainly to the sternest “critic” here who rather sounded like an expert in the field. Yebo, the lady here, could have easily convinced me of her profession as an engineer had she not tottered on her definition of “OXIDIZE.” Well logically, who would? – after all we are all ghosts here lurking in the incognito of our usernames.

The inventor did not claim that there is ignition and combustion in the ‘EGO’ device. Oxygen simply oxidizes the hot fumes of exhaust where chemical reaction takes place, converting the noxious exhaust gases into harmless carbon dioxide. The rationale behind the invention is it cleans all the wastes and carbon deposits stored in the combustion chamber. I believe this was explained by the thread starter as lifted in the EGO device’s brochure.

How Yebo criticized the inventor is totally reprehensive. While it is acceptable for a critic to find fault in any thing he criticizes, it is nonetheless a big no-no in criticism to utter such an unfounded and derogatory statement like when she said: “you have in fact found a very convincing way to fool the DENR and DOTC…” True, DENR and DOTC are not scientific organizations, but the people there who conducted the testing are composed of scientists who likewise dwell in your alleged turf of engineering.

Come to think of it: who would you rather believe, the DOST or that self-confessed lady engineer who doesn’t even know what oxidation is?

[AC]

sir add616.. pwede po.. pa email din ng results and how it works? alvincochua*hotmail.com tnx

[add616reneb]

Originally posted by AC
sir add616.. pwede po.. pa email din ng results and how it works? alvincochua*hotmail.com tnx

Check your mail. Sent e-mail already. TY.
:nerd:

[wildthing]

OT:

Dear Yamot,

To answer your question:

I would rather believe on any Tsikoteer who practices his/her right to talk freely or discuss freely his/her thoughts (kahit mali or tama)....because that is everyone's right....rather than DOST....dahil wala namang nagre-represent dito ng DOST and God knows what do they really think about the topic.

Huwag kang mayamot....kasi wala naman pumigil sa inyo na magpost sa forum na ito to "sell" or promote your product di ba....ganyan lang talaga dito.....

Back to the topic,

I have yet to "see" the proof of the EGO device....I still have doubts about it...

my 2 cents. peace!

[add616reneb]

Originally posted by wildthing
OT:

Dear Yamot,

To answer your question:

I would rather believe on any Tsikoteer who practices his/her right to talk freely or discuss freely his/her thoughts (kahit mali or tama)....because that is everyone's right....rather than DOST....dahil wala namang nagre-represent dito ng DOST and God knows what do they really think about the topic.

Huwag kang mayamot....kasi wala naman pumigil sa inyo na magpost sa forum na ito to "sell" or promote your product di ba....ganyan lang talaga dito.....

Back to the topic,

I have yet to "see" the proof of the EGO device....I still have doubts about it...

my 2 cents. peace!

Please read Manila Bulletin's Saturday Issue, Dec. 6, 2003 in Business Section: "GMA lauds Likha invention awardee"

:nerd:

[AC]

tnx po sa email add... but.. ano po laman ng device na ito?? may motor po ba sa loob o sparkplug? may illustration po kayo wats inside? hehe.. nalito po ako eh.. hehehe

[add616reneb]

Originally posted by AC
tnx po sa email add... but.. ano po laman ng device na ito?? may motor po ba sa loob o sparkplug? may illustration po kayo wats inside? hehe.. nalito po ako eh.. hehehe

Nothing inside (no motor, spark plug, etc.) the device but the EGO is so designed based on the "venturi effect" (see aerodynamics/ Physics) which is also used in the designs of the exhausts of rockets and jets. Better see the actual device so that you will understand beter. Where are you based?:nerd:

[Djerms]

I'm not buying.

IMO: Why didn't the geniuses of Mitsubishi, Honda, Toyota, and the other good car manufacturers think about this in the first place? This means that its not needed by the vehicle that they manufacture. Sa sobrang dami ng mga fake products na inendorse ng government, why do i have to believe in this one and the next ones that they will be endorsing? (Biodiesel lang yata ang nagwowork for me..hehe)

For me, nothing beats the calibration process pa rin. Why do I have to spend 6,000++ or even more when I can spend the same amount to have my vehicle calibrated...sigurado pa ako sa results.

..just my opinion.

[yamot]

Originally posted by Djerms
IMO: Why didn't the geniuses of Mitsubishi, Honda, Toyota, and the other good car manufacturers think about this in the first place? This means that its not needed by the vehicle that they manufacture.

that's why it is called an invention, a breakthrough. simple logic, iho.

[yamot]

Originally posted by wildthing
OT:

Dear Yamot,

To answer your question:

I would rather believe on any Tsikoteer who practices his/her right to talk freely or discuss freely his/her thoughts (kahit mali or tama)....because that is everyone's right....rather than DOST....
I have yet to "see" the proof of the EGO device....I still have doubts about it...

believe any tsikoteer who doesn't know how to reason correctly?

[Djerms]

Yamot,

No I will not believe in any tsikoteers reasonings, but I will believe any tsikoteer rather than believing in your idol's nonsense inventions. Kabit mo nalang yan sa tricycle mo IHO. Haha.

[yebo]

ahem, lady daw ako hahahaha! di po, barako ini! lalaki po ako.

and I'm still not buying!

[add616reneb]

EGO was again the the first choice in a recent exhibition in ULTRA. Next exposition/exhibition will be in WORLD TRADE CENTER by second week of Jan. 2004 under the auspices of WORLD BANK. See you there for a FREE Demo!!!:nerd: