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    #1
    Hey guys, I need your help.

    I had my 96 Civic Vti's wheels aligned at Timog Tirehaus. But then i noticed that in order to maintain a straight line while driving, the steering wheel is titled a little to the right.

    I brought it back to Timog Tirehaus kasi meron namang warranty. But they told me my car needed castor and camber adjustment and that only the Casa can do this for me.

    Is this true? Are there any recommended shops which can do this other than the Casa?

    Salamat po in advance.

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    You might want to try Wheeler's Suspension Haus along N.Roxas cor. Banawe.

    Manual alignment ang style ng work nila. Hindi computerized equiptments ang gamit.

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    afaik, civics with double wishbone suspensions do not require camber adjustments!
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    yep pag stock height no need for camber adjustment.

    baka offcenter lang yung steering wheel pwede paadjust yan. try mo other shops like wheelers or tireboy
    Last edited by Supierreman; June 24th, 2004 at 02:41 AM.

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    Its quite easy.
    PM me and we will do it for free.

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    kung bubunutin yung manibela, hindi yan 100% sure na maaalign. Depende yan sa spline. For example, sa pajero 36 splines, so if youre offcenter ng 10degrees, youre in luck, unfortunately if your wheel is offcenter by less, you have to adjust via tie-rod compensation.

    I have the same problem myself, kaya lang <5degrees offcenter.

    Kelangan yung talagang matiyaga sa alignment.

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    yup..no camber adjustments for civics...sa wheeler's ko nalaman to.

    ok dito sa wheeler's...dami lang nga nagpapagawa.

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    Boss yung sa akin -53 sa kaliwang gulong.

    Di daw sya makuha sa wheel alignment.

    Ano po ba dapat gawin dito.

    Salamat

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    pag lowered naman yung oto pwede adjust camber nyan. sa front kelangan ng camber kit. sa likod kahit yung washers and longer bolt na nabibili sa nuts and bolts shop.

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    Labo ah.

    Baiskee stated na walang camber adjustment sa civic.

    Ano ba talaga totoo? Wheeler ba magagawa to, kaso dami nagpapagawa dun.

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    CLAVEL3699::: Agahan nyo na lang po ng punta dun, para magawa agad at maiwasan ang mahabang pila. Or you could try mga late afternoon jobs around 3-4PM. Mas bilib na ako ngayon sa manual alignments compared sa computerized machines.

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    Originally posted by CLAVEL3699
    Labo ah.

    Baiskee stated na walang camber adjustment sa civic.

    Ano ba talaga totoo? Wheeler ba magagawa to, kaso dami nagpapagawa dun.
    to clarify ganito yan kase...

    sa stock height sa double wishbone suspension automatic na pag adjust ng camber nun. naiiba lang camber pag either nabangga naoffspec yung camber or kung naglower ka.

    usually yung mga naglower nagugulat na lang yung camber nila offspec tapos pag dalhin mo sa shop sasabihin nila walang camber correction kase sa totoo nyan wala sila nung part na bibilhin mo pa para ayusin yung camber.

    Yan yung aftermarket camberkit. sa front double whishbone yung papalita dun either yung upper A arm with extended bolts or yung ibang kit papalitan ng extended balljoint para maadjust yung camber.


    Sa rear ginagamitan ng mahabang bolt saka washers para maging spacer to adjust it to positive.


    So technically wala camber correction pero sa totoo nyan meron naman magagawang paraan by using a camber kit. Yung mga shops na nagsasabi walang camber correction ang honda kase wala sila nung kit.

    mahirap maghanap ng camber kit. Sa US pa order nito. around 8k to 10k yun. search sa google nung progress camber kits or ingalls. Yung sa civic ko noon nagpabili ako sa US nung Revo brand na camber kit sa autodynamic website.


    In the end isisipin mo na lang.. pag minor lang naman yung off spec sa camber. mas mabuti pa parotate na lang ng tires na dismount yung tires sa wheel kaysa bumili ng 10k na camber kit.

    btw meron din ibang shops like zafra sasabihin nila iaadjust nila camber mo by heating the front spindle and bending it. loko mga tao dun.. delikado yun baka madaling masira na yung spindle. better use a proper camber kit or replace the spindle na lang.
    Last edited by Supierreman; June 30th, 2004 at 01:11 PM.

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    Thanks. Supierreman!

    Pasensya na tanga lang. hehehehe

    Agahan ko na lang sa Wheelers. Libre ba pa estimate sa kanila? I want to pa estimate muna check lahat tapos bibilhin ko na lahat para sabay sabay na lang gawa.

    Kung masyadomalaki magagastos pwede ko muna ipunin yung pyesa din pagawa sabay sabay

    Tama po ba strategy ko. hehehehe

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    Supierreman,

    Actually, I had a couple of suspension parts replaced on my ride, i.e. tie rod, tie rod end, upper ball joint, shocks kasi it was really due for replacement anyway.

    Wala naman lowering or lifting involved. Does that mean I'll have to take it out and reinstall it?

    Thank you pala sa mga nag-PM ng advice nila.

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    CLAVEL3699,
    ok lang yun no.. yan din problem ko kase dami na ako nilapitan na shops noon sabi nila wala daw camber adjustment yung honda until i learned about camber kits posted at HCP dati.

    pero nasolve na problem ko even before i bought the camber kit... yun pala mali offset ng mags ko yung 16" momo arrows kaya ayun medyo nagnegative camber kahit stock height pa lang :D

    binenta ko na camber kit ko unused.



    altis6453,
    yung ball joint ba pinapress lang sa machine shop? pag sa casa kase binebenta nila dun buong upper A arm with ball joint na.

    baka may ptoblem nga sa paginstall. try mo muna sa ibang shops.
    Last edited by Supierreman; July 3rd, 2004 at 01:00 PM.

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    sorry to resurrect this thread.

    just confirmed today that my Honda EK needs adjustment for CASTER naman. kuha kaya ng camber kit ito (need to know before I fork out mga 10k hehehe)? and if yes, do i really need it as long as tama naman toe-in/toe-out ko para pantay ang kain ng goma? or frequent rotation of tires na lang.

    thanks for your help guys.

96 Civic Castor/Camber Adjustment