TJM/ARB bumpers & 4wd Conversion of GU Patrol

[OTEP]

Baka meron since buong sasakyan naman ang kinakatay dun diba?

[boybi]

makapagpaorder nalang kaya ke kimpOy. pero mas ok sana kung galing din sa GU.

[ARB]

boybi-ok, just give me the details.

with regards sa 4wd conversion, here are my suggestions.
first, check your front diffs, may flange dyan for the driveshaft. jack up the front of the vehicle and rotate the tires, if the flange moves then the diffs are functioning, or it has internals.

second, uncover te shifter cover, if there is a way that you can shift the 4wd mech try to shift it, so that you may find out if an indictor will light up in the dash.

you dont need to transfer the diffs if the first and the second suggestions i made will be ok. all you need is the drive shaft and the shifter. with regards to the locking hubs, it is not that important, you have open front diffs, it would not bother with the vehicles handling. as long as the transmissin is in 2h its fine.

[boybi]

ARB, yung flange, yun ba yung nakatapat sa likod na kinakabitan nung propeller shaft?

with regards to the locking hubs, it is not that important, you have open front diffs, it would not bother with the vehicles handling. as long as the transmissin is in 2h its fine

what do mean by this? di ko na kelangan ang front hubs? makaka 4wd ba ako?

[ARB]

yes the flange is the one with i think four small holes, circle shaped at the back of the 3rd member.

yes if it spins you dont need the locking hubs, it is locked all the time.

[kimpOy]

bOybi,
patanong ko ok, pero hindi ako sure.
thursday pa ang punta ko sa apalit.

[boybi]

Originally posted by ARB
yes the flange is the one with i think four small holes, circle shaped at the back of the 3rd member.

yes if it spins you dont need the locking hubs, it is locked all the time.

if its locked all the time, can i shift to 4wd on the fly?

[OTEP]

In theory, yes. Kasi nga synchronised na ang rotation. But you still cannot use it on pavement.

Sa Pajero dati gumana naman iyang shift on the fly. Kasi lagi locked ang hubs nun.

[boybi]

bakit hindi pwede sa pavements? hindi ba sabay ang ikot ng front wheels sa rear?

[OTEP]

You still cannot drive in 4H or 4L on paved roads is what I mean. Kasi mag-bind iyan if you turn.

But it will shift on the fly.

[boybi]

anong mag-bind? how about sa flood on paved road? pwde ko i-4wd?

pano ba ang shifting ng patrol? (2H, 2L, 4L, 4H)?

second, uncover te shifter cover, if there is a way that you can shift the 4wd mech try to shift it, so that you may find out if an indictor will light up in the dash.

pano nai-shift ko tapos hindi ko maibalik, ok lang ba?

[OTEP]

Naku may threads na tayo about 4wd binding. Pahukay na lang natin kay Ungas. Normal ito sa mga 4x4 na walang center diff or locked ang center diff.

Walang 2L sa transfer case. Imbento lang namin iyon para sa mga naka full manual hubs kasi kahit mag 4L ka dun, 2 wheel drive pa din if you don't lock the hubs.

2H 4H 4L ang pattern.

[ARB]

as long as walang driveshaft ok lang. just make sure na pwedeng ibalik lang para walang hassle. walang 2L. but maybe may neutral. basta high traction surface you can use 4wd as long as you dont turn. let us say may flood waters and not sure ka no sa ilalim ng water you can shift to 4wd basta straight line lang ang travel mo, pwede naman change lanes ka but not quick change lane. ma feel mo naman yan pag sobra na ang turn kay there is ressistance in you steering wheel.

[boybi]

meron bang center diff ang patrol?

kung umikot yung flange when i turn the wheels, ibig sabihin meron laman yung bungo?

[OTEP]

Walang center diff ang Patrol. Usually mga fulltime 4wd vehicles ang meron nito or yung pwedeng 4H sa pavement like Pajero.

Why don't you just open the fill hole for the bungo and poke a stick in para malaman kung may laman? Para machek na din kung may fluids.

[boybi]

ARB, medyo nalito ako. yung 2 conditions na sinabi mo (imiikot yung flange and pwede i-shift yung 4wd shifter) kapag ok, pwede ko na bang ipang off-road (4x4)? ang binding sa paved road lang ba?

[ARB]

yes when the flange turns, meaning may mga gears ang front diff.
kay i have seen new patrols na ang flange ay turning when they move the car. baka kase kinuha na pati front diff internals ang ibang units. just to make sure.
and i mag shift ka and the indicators light up, you will not need to wire up the dash indicator. or this really means that kinunan lang ng casa ng mga parts para maging 2wd na lang ang unit mo.

then you will just add the driveshaft and shifter. as long as high traction yung surface there will be binding when you turn. it may be your driveway, parking lot, etc.

[boybi]

so wala din kwenta kung maglagay ako ng driveshaft (ito ba yung propeller shaft?) and shifter dahil sa binding? hindi pa rin ako pwede sumama sa mga 4wd adventures ng DC.org?

[OTEP]

Binding is natural when you use the 4wd on pavement. Lahat kami nag-ba-bind at one time or another so huwag ka mag-alala. Kaya nga 2H on paved roads.

Kapag may 4wd ka na pwede ka na sumama sa adventures.

[boybi]

Originally posted by OTEP
Binding is natural when you use the 4wd on pavement. Lahat kami nag-ba-bind at one time or another so huwag ka mag-alala. Kaya nga 2H on paved roads.

Kapag may 4wd ka na pwede ka na sumama sa adventures.

kahit 4wd without the front hubs?

naalala ko kasi one time nagpa underwash ako, inikot nung washboy yung front wheels, napansin kong umikot yung flange.
yung shifter nalang ang problema ko.