Rustproofing an X-trail

[ILuvDetailing]

My dad recently bought an X-trail 2.0 4x2 from Nissan U.N. The salesman told us all the X-trail units are factory rustproofed using body color. We saw other X-trails with black rustprooving... Now I'm Confused, fellow X-trail owners after purchasing your unit did you have it rust proofed again? or is the factory rustprooving enough? thanks

[theveed]

dont rust proof it sa 3rd party, sayang pera, nagigigng source of rust pa yan... try mo search ang "aftermarket rustproofing" sa google.

[niky]

Why would you need to rustproof it? Will you go off-roading? :D

[mazdamazda]

so... ok na yung ginawa ng casa na rust proofing?

nung nagpa repaint ako ng door ko sa Rav4, included sa charges yung rust proofing...

btw, oks kaya yung Rust-O-Mizer?

[theveed]

iba rustproofing sa undercoating take note.

[ILuvDetailing]

Thanks for the reply. Well my dad thought that its not rustproofed, I told him that it is already factory rustproofed. Tama ba? Anyway whats the diff between undercoating and rustproofing? Yung sa ziebart, rustproofing ba yun or undercoat?

[caloyski5]

may factory rustproofing yung lahat ng sheet metal ng nissan..before assembly, yung shell ng car nilulublob sa pool ng rustproofing chemical tapos dina-dry..maganda ang body ng nissan..bilib ako kasi ang tagal mag rust (newer models ha)

undercoating naman yung black goo na nise-spray sa underchassis

[ILuvDetailing]

Is it advisable to have our car undercoated? or ok na ba yung underwash at every pms?

[OTEP]

Rustproofing is spraying an anti-corrosion agent into the hollow cavities of the vehicle. E.g. in double wall cargo beds, inside the doors, etc.

I'm no big fan of aftermarket rustproofing. Vehicles are rustproofed well enough from the factory.

And yes, aftermarket (e.g. Ziebart, Tuff Kote, etc.) rustproofing can become a source of rust if improperly applied. Usually around the areas of the pilot holes they need to drill in order to insert the probe that will deliver the agent.

Undercoating is putting a protective coat under the vehicle. Again, proper application is the key. Personally, I am for undercoating. Just make sure that the surface is properly cleaned and prepared prior to application.

Underwash is not really a problem so long as you do not use too much pressure. And wait at least a few weeks just to make sure the undercoating has cured so that it will not get peeled off with underwashing.

[knicks1204]

question po... nung nagpa-20K check up ako sa Honda, tinanong ako kung gusto ko pa-renew ung rustproofing nung kotse.. ganun ba talaga un? sbi kse nung driver namin, isang beses lang nira-rustproof ang kotse... undercoating lang ang alam nyang pina-pacoat uli... tanong lang po..

[OTEP]

Remember that the dealer is not the same company as the manufacturer and that the dealer makes profit out of selling you stuff for your car like accessories and rust proofing.

I just say no when the dealer tries to sell me those rust proof ek ek.

[theveed]

Yup, they offer you tint, matting, seatcovers, undercoating, rustproofing, paint protection, they're all accessory that they made "patong" on top of what the original supplier/retailer charges.

[ILuvDetailing]

Can you guys recommend a good shop for underwash and undercoating?

[knicks1204]

pero, natural lang po ba na nire-renew ung rustproofing? like the undercoating?

[OTEP]

Nope. Even our 1981 Benz has not gone through that 'renewal' ek ek. Wala pa naman kaming nagiging problema. Same case with our 1987.

[vinj]

The factory rustproofing from 90's model car and up is quite good... in fact when people repaint, it's not adviseable to scrape to metal anymore.

What's important is that you wash the car properly at least once a week (clean the wheel wells, roof, etc) and get an underwash once or twice a year. What causes rust usually is the build-up of moisture and muck from uncleaned parts of the car.

Also, insert the hose on the front fenders behind the mudguards (inside the front door sill) and you'll be able to wash out quite a lot of mud.

Undercoating is adviseable esp. on cars that are exposed to rough road mud a lot. Over time, the undercoating can get scraped off due out bad roads so having it reapplied after 3 years or so wont hurt.

[ILuvDetailing]

Well we don't go offroading/mostly city driving so underwashing will be enough? Ok na ba underwashing sa mga gas stations? I hope bigberts adds an underwashing service in the near future... do you have that in your plans theveed/blackmagic?

[johnnyd]

Originally posted by mazdamazda
so... ok na yung ginawa ng casa na rust proofing?

nung nagpa repaint ako ng door ko sa Rav4, included sa charges yung rust proofing...

btw, oks kaya yung Rust-O-Mizer?

Di ba electronic rustproof ang rust-o-mizer?

[OTEP]

Your 12V electrical system will never supply enough juice for an electric rust proofing system.

[silhouette]

Originally posted by ILuvDetailing
Can you guys recommend a good shop for underwash and undercoating?

i'm also looking for one. i just can't recall where i read it, kung dito or another forum. but if i'm not mistaken si sir Chieffy yung nirecommend na magaling mag undercoat...

calling on sir chieffy.