Nissan ELGRAND who has one?

[lorenzovalenton]

Just an update. .

Just closed out the the mechanical works for my elgrand, now working in perfect condition

The loud sound was fixed by just replacing the wheel bearings (2 per set, dad bought it in downtown (binondo) was not able to ask how much. but im guessing you can buy the bearings at any nissan part suppliers. So for those who have encountered same problem this can serve as reference.

Luckily did not have to replace any suspension parts (sorry to disappoint those who are looking forward where to get parts and corresponding costs ). There is still a dribbling sound when passing through bumps, for a novice like me would suspect suspension problems right away but turns out that its coming from the door hinges (requires replacements of bushings). This i guess will be an easy fix.

So there I will now move to the more exciting part which is body paint and interiors ill try my best to document these and post some before and after pics.

[lorenzovalenton]

Just an update. .

Just closed out the the mechanical works for my elgrand, now working in perfect condition

The loud sound was fixed by just replacing the wheel bearings (2 per set, dad bought it in downtown (binondo) was not able to ask how much. but im guessing you can buy the bearings at any nissan part suppliers. So for those who have encountered same problem this can serve as reference.

Luckily did not have to replace any suspension parts (sorry to disappoint those who are looking forward where to get parts and corresponding costs ). There is still a dribbling sound when passing through bumps, for a novice like me would suspect suspension problems right away but turns out that its coming from the door hinges (requires replacements of bushings). This i guess will be an easy fix.

So there I will now move to the more exciting part which are body repair, paint and interiors ill try my best to document these and post some before and after pics.

[Ericgt]

Thanks for the Tips Dvldoc,

I have a few questions regarding some of the bottons in my elgrand.

1. the AT lever has a botton which lights the 'OD off' indicator. what does OD off mean and when do I use it?
2. there is a "Heat' botton. what is this for and when do i use it.
3. also the "Power/snow" botton. when do i use the "power botton"
4. the 2WD selector switch has a "4wd Auto" and "Lock". what is the difference between the "auto" and the "lock"?
5. my aircon controller works but i noticed that even if i set the temp to 18deg C or 38 deg C, the temp is the same. also the recyle air and the fresh air switch is not working. How do i fix this?

I called up SpeedLab last week and inquired about any Fuel Saving option for my Elgrand and they said there is none. they only have programs for specific vehicles. Are you connected with them?

Regarding your advice last Sept 29, How do i block the EGR with a plate? what is a DIY catch can and where can I buy it? about the 2 stoke non synthetic motor oil, which brand do you recommend and how do i do it? should I just pour it in to mix with the engine oil?

Thanks again & waiting for your help.

[dvldoc]

OD light is for the overdrive, its a higher gear for better fuel economy. Not to much reason to not keep the OD on unless your towing up a hill.

The heat button, might be the heated seats, I don't have one as far as I know. But if it says heat you probably are not going to need it in the Philippines.

Power snow button In snow mode, I initial acceleration is slower and more progressive than power mode for traction. Power mode if for quicker acceleration.

no need for the snow mode and the power mode uses a bot more fuel but makes the van more responsive by reving higher before shifts. Most leave it in this mode. Snow mode useless in the Philippines.

2WD keeps it in 2 wheel drive, 4wd auto will lock the differential if it detects the tires are slipping. 4WD will lock the diff for full time 4WD and your fuel economy will suffer in this mode.

Sound like your aircon needs service, I would have the freon checked and make sure the compressor is working. Sometimes the conversion is not done correctly on the Aircon system of the van. I visited Port Irene in Feb and believe me not all those shops have good conversion crews working.

Speedlab carries my product the Alcohol injection, It's really not for fuel savings but can give you better fuel economy. You can run strait water and get some nice power gains. It's for your vehicle to run cleaner and have more power. You'll pick up about 30hp with the kit and reduce your emissions around 80% making the vehicle run cooler and cleaner and last longer.

example of power gained. There is a huge thread on it in the forum. This is on a Fortuner which has similar power to the elgrand but is a common rail. The gains will be around the same. The base Stage 1 boost activated kit is a good option for you.

Example of power gains, this is a Fortuner which has similar power to the Elgrand.





Speed lab can make the EGR plate and they carry oil catch cans. But if you look at my post about them you can find them at Ace hardware in the air compressor section. You can also just get a regular oil catch can, it might cost a bit more though. But any shop that can do simple welding can make a plate if make a templet of the EGR valve or bring it in to them to make it. Keeps your engine so much cleaner.

The 2 stoke engine oil goes in the fuel tank not the engine oil. It provides extra lubercation to your injector pump and quiets down the engine. The cheap none sythetic oil works the best. 1 pint per full tank of fuel.

Hope that helps out

[Ericgt]

Hi Dvldoc,

Regarding the motorcycle oil- what will be the effect of that on my fuel pump and filter? When do i put the oil, before filling or after fulltank? 1 pint is roughly half liter. is 1 pint enough for a 76 liter tank? do I have to do this everytime I get a full tank which is weekly? what will happen to the accumulated oil inside the fuel tank?

Sorry for the many question? I am a layman and doesnt know anything about engines.

[dvldoc]

Hi Dvldoc,

Regarding the motorcycle oil- what will be the effect of that on my fuel pump and filter? When do i put the oil, before filling or after fulltank? 1 pint is roughly half liter. is 1 pint enough for a 76 liter tank? do I have to do this everytime I get a full tank which is weekly? what will happen to the accumulated oil inside the fuel tank?

Sorry for the many question? I am a layman and doesnt know anything about engines.

You will add it after you fill the tank it mixes fairly easily. Yes you only need a pint.

The keys are: 1:200 ratio. Use a mineral based 2T as sold for scooters/saws/mowers (cheaper the better !) etc and not the boat outboard motor stuff and not synthetic. Don't use it in engines built in / after 2007

It add lubrication to your fuel pump and injectors helping extending there life. Most people will notice after the first tank that the engine will be quieter and smoother. The low sulfur diesel fuels used these days are missing a lot of the lubrication property of the higher sulfur content diesel fuel. I added it on my 1999 Starex and it was quieter after a fuel tank of fuel burnt and just ran better.

I would not put it in a common rail vehicle due to different nature of their fuel pumps and high pressure.

[dvldoc]

Here is a great study of fuel additives for diesels. 2 stoke engine oil is right at the top of the list.

http://www.johnfjensen.com/Diesel_fu...itive_test.pdf


ALSO A CORRECTION TO ONE OF MY POST
Light bulb for the aircon is a T4 Neowedge bulb not a T5

[mikael2718]

i just got mine bought it at 370k with a rebate of 5k thru financing super lakas ng hatak nya and yung comfort riding nya e the best mas okey comfort nya kaysa exped, the conversion is perfect interior is great all buttons are funtioning well, engine is 3.2 turbo diesel, 8 seater due to captain sit on the middle with sunroof & moonroof great van!!!!!! sana magkaroon ng samahan ng mga elgrand owner!!!!!! by the way malilipat na yata sa bataan yung nasa port iriene cagayan kung gusto nyo po maayos na elgrand i refer to you my friend hes almost five vyears in the business right now he got wide variety of japanese car most specially elgrand you can txt me at 09052804073 kung gusto nyo ma view elgrand baka magustuhan nyo

[dvldoc]

The above post smell like spam

Anyways for you 3.0 Neo diesel owners this is important stuff for you to know, It can mean the difference in driving or having dead turbo or blown engine.

The Neodiesels are prone to turbo failure mainly caused by having a bad MAF sensor that causes it to overfuel and overboost then the high exhaust gas temperatures frag the turbo.

The turbo is a Garrett 705954-8 some of the big diesel shops might be able to help you our or someplace like Speedlab might know a place to send it for rebuild if this has already happened to you.

This is a common problem with the ZD30DDTi engine. I suggest before you need to get it repaired or already need to invest in a exhaust gas temperature gauge and boost gauge for your van. I would also have the MAF sensor cleaned or replaced.

The engine crankcase breather is connected to the air induction system on the intake side of the air flow meter. This means the meter gets fouled by fumes from the crankcase. The computer gets incorrect readings from the airflow meter and adjusts fuel and boost levels to the incorrect readings. Thus the boost goes astronomical. A simple manual boost controller can help keep this from ever happening.

Some of the symptoms are things such as intercooler pipes sliding off, engine running rough, and higher than standard boost pressures.

Installing a oil catch can with filter media in it a DIY oil catch can works better in this application.

Helpful pdf for you 3.0 guys.
http://users.on.net/~aschulze/ZD30/ZD30%20Y61%20Reference%20Document%20-%20BW.pdf

This is the reason I went with the 3.2. But the if properly taken care of the Neodiesel should be fine. Get that MAF cleaned or replaced and a filtered oil catch can ASAP! You can make your own catch can from a air water separator for a air compressor. A green scrub pad works great for a filter on the inside.

http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72950
http://www.pbase.com/rsrock/oil_catch_can

[dvldoc]

Nissan part number for the 3.0 NEOdiesel turbo is (part# 705954) also shared with the Patrol with the same engine.

[dvldoc]

Owning a 3.0 Neo diesel Elgrand is not a bad thing it's a powerful engine, it's a common rail set up. But if your going to get one do the modifications to the motor that will keep it running and keep you from having to replace your turbo.

Things you must do!!! Must is the key word.

#1 manual boost controller why? It will save your motor from the over boost condition caused by a clogged EGR valve or dirty MAF sensor. These are what kill these engines. They are prone to this from 1999-2002.

#2 Oil catch can with filter media. A green scrub pad works great, You can buy one from a performance shop or make your own.

#3 EGR block off plate. Must have a manual boost controller before this modification because it will raise your boost on the Neo diesel 4 to 6 psi.


Now for the mods.

Manual boost controller is pretty simple. Should be the first thing you get. Only 1500P to 2500P most places.




OIL Catch can.
Be sure to use a filter element. Foam works well like the kind in some air filters or packing material.

When connecting the hoses Please remove the restrictor from the Nissan hose and installed it into the inlet hose, its there for a reason so use it.

When connecting the hose make sure that once the engine cover is back on it does not touch.
The plastic cover vibrates a fair bit and can eventually “saw” its way through the hose.






EGR Valve blanking plate.







What your motor looks like without these mods or water injection to keep things clean.

Complete blockage at 85000K

[dvldoc]

Air filter fouled by oil mist in just 10000K this will kill your MAF sensor and cause the over boost condition.

Hopefully all these technical post are helpful to you new Elgrand owners. I am not saying don't get a 3.0 just know what your getting and be prepared to do the proper mods to keep it running. The over boost issue applies to the 3.2 Diesel in regards to the MAF sensor as well but not the EGR valve causing over boost.

I have all 3 mods for my 3.2 elgrand plus water injection of course. Plan to keep her running good for years.

Also get a EGT gauge and boost gauge if you can.



Filthy intake on a Neodiesel.



Heads are not much better.

[Ericgt]

Hi Dvldoc,

I added 0.4liter of 2T motorcycle oil on my full tank and everything is ok so far. Until you post "not to do it on common rail engine. question, Is my 3.0 Neo Di engine same as CRDI(common rail direct injection)? I'm a bit worried. Are you absolutely sure the motorcycle oil is safe for my type of engine?

Regarding your advice about the MAF, oil catch can, manual boost controller & egr block plate.... can this all be done by Speedlab? how much do think will it cost in Pesos?

Hope to meet you when you visit Manila. just txt me...0915 8185928

Regards,

Ericgt

[dvldoc]

Speedlab can for sure install the boost controller and fab up the blanking plate. They also sell oil catch cans. I think there boost controller is like 9000P installed. You can however find them cheaper and just have them install it.
http://www.speedlab.com.ph/otheraccessories.php


The ZD30DDTi engine is a common rail diesel, some people run the 2T oil in it but due to the much higher pressure of the pump the ability of it to atomize it comes into question due to its slightly higher viscosity. So for common rail I would not. But if you have the 3.0 engine you need to do these mods or look for a new turbo soon or new engine.

Here is a speedlab install of a manual boost controller. This would be the first thing I got. It will keep you from the overboost condition and protect your engine. The blanking plate second for the EGR simple metal plate they can fab up. There also have the oil catch can a bit spendy but I would still get one done. I made two but chose my second design because it was simple and cost only like 15USD for all the parts. I just added the 1/2 npt barbed fitting and bingo sweet easy to empty oil catch can.


https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.a...&catname=water


Speedlab boost controller



This is the boost controller I have and have used for years on many vehicles. same principle and basically bullet proof performance http://nxsmotorsports.com/



Hopefully back in the Philippines sometime early next year for a nice 30 day vacation.

[mikael2718]

The above post smell like spam

Anyways for you 3.0 Neo diesel owners this is important stuff for you to know, It can mean the difference in driving or having dead turbo or blown engine.

The Neodiesels are prone to turbo failure mainly caused by having a bad MAF sensor that causes it to overfuel and overboost then the high exhaust gas temperatures frag the turbo.

The turbo is a Garrett 705954-8 some of the big diesel shops might be able to help you our or someplace like Speedlab might know a place to send it for rebuild if this has already happened to you.

This is a common problem with the ZD30DDTi engine. I suggest before you need to get it repaired or already need to invest in a exhaust gas temperature gauge and boost gauge for your van. I would also have the MAF sensor cleaned or replaced.

The engine crankcase breather is connected to the air induction system on the intake side of the air flow meter. This means the meter gets fouled by fumes from the crankcase. The computer gets incorrect readings from the airflow meter and adjusts fuel and boost levels to the incorrect readings. Thus the boost goes astronomical. A simple manual boost controller can help keep this from ever happening.

Some of the symptoms are things such as intercooler pipes sliding off, engine running rough, and higher than standard boost pressures.

Installing a oil catch can with filter media in it a DIY oil catch can works better in this application.

Helpful pdf for you 3.0 guys.
http://users.on.net/~aschulze/ZD30/ZD30%20Y61%20Reference%20Document%20-%20BW.pdf

This is the reason I went with the 3.2. But the if properly taken care of the Neodiesel should be fine. Get that MAF cleaned or replaced and a filtered oil catch can ASAP! You can make your own catch can from a air water separator for a air compressor. A green scrub pad works great for a filter on the inside.

http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72950
http://www.pbase.com/rsrock/oil_catch_can

whew! nakakatuwa naman SPAM daw post ko! hehehehe ano yun hula? galing din mag judge kung sino ka man tsk tsk tsk im just giving my own opinion about elgrand OPINION lang po wala bastusan!

[dvldoc]

Sorry the single post count then reference to someones business then giving a number to call about vehicles.

i refer to you my friend hes almost five vyears in the business right now he got wide variety of japanese car most specially elgrand you can txt me at 09XXXXXXXXXXXX kung gusto nyo ma view elgrand baka magustuhan nyo

But if I am wrong them I am wrong. Feel free to contribute to the thread.

Anyways back to the Elgrand.

Here is the ZD30DDI motors turbo. You would put the boost controller were the hose from the turbo to the wastegate is. Just get a longer piece of tubing and insert it.




This really is a do it yourself job. But you really need a boost gauge to see were your boost is set at stock so you can set it close to that or a few psi above.

The 3.0 also has a non conventional oil filter.

Part number
15208-2W200




Outer Diameter : 78 mm
Inner Diameter : 25 mm
Height : 102 mm

http://www.yiparts.com/Part/en/VWSMC

Air filter part number
http://www.yiparts.com/en/Part/NI/E/2005

[mikael2718]

Sorry the single post count then reference to someones business then giving a number to call about vehicles.

But if I am wrong them I am wrong. Feel free to contribute to the thread.

Anyways back to the Elgrand.

Here is the ZD30DDI motors turbo. You would put the boost controller were the hose from the turbo to the wastegate is. Just get a longer piece of tubing and insert it.




This really is a do it yourself job. But you really need a boost gauge to see were your boost is set at stock so you can set it close to that or a few psi above.

The 3.0 also has a non conventional oil filter.

Part number
15208-2W200




Outer Diameter : 78 mm
Inner Diameter : 25 mm
Height : 102 mm

http://www.yiparts.com/Part/en/VWSMC

Air filter part number
http://www.yiparts.com/en/Part/NI/E/2005

well sir dvloc cnsya na rin po hindi ko kse alam kung anong post yung spam natuwa lang kse ako dun sa elgrand na nakuha dun sa friend ko kaya naisipan ko na i post number ko just in case na may magtanong, anyway some part of my post is only opinion, my only concern for now sir is my aircon babalik ko ngayong araw for checking, thnks anyway

[dvldoc]

Most aircon problems are a result of the conversion process. Always fully test the aircon on any converted vehicle as well as a good long drive it like you stole test drive.


In case anyone wants techy stuff on the elgrand, Have most of the shop manuals you not going to find on the internet for free. I am happy to post up a requested part. or system. if the PDF is small enough I can email it to you.

Right now I have the complete
Front and rear axle manual
Brakes
transfer case for you 4X4 model guys
Front and rear suspension
steering system (org LHD)
Complete engine guide to the 3.0 turbo diesel ZD30 motor

Complete engine guide to the TD27 engine (note the TD27 and QD32TEI share almost every mechanical part. The only real difference is the displacement, and the turbo. Same, injectors, glow plugs, filters, starter, water pump, (not sure on the alternator yet)

[Ericgt]

Hi Dvldoc,
Do you recommend a full synthetic oil for the Neo Di engine? A lot of blogs lately are saying that synthetic oil is not good for the engine. please advise what is the best viscousity for philippine condition.

[dvldoc]

The reason for the statement do not use synthetics is because it causes even more oil vapor/mist to built up in the system the the crankcase vent and increases soot and carbon build up in your intake. If you do the oil catch which on both the 3.2 and 3.0 Elgrand engines should be a mandatory thing.

I plan to run 100% Shell Synthetic oil 10/30 or royal purple. Synthetics have better lubrication. longer oil change intervals, and reduce friction better. I will be changing my oil every 15000k but I also have Fleetguard oil filters from Cummings enough to last about 100000 miles and Fleetguard fuel filters which will be done ever 20000K. These are the best filters you can get for the money period. There are few that are close but I don't think you can get them in the Philippines.

By the way it's 6.9 liters with filter for both engines.

STANDARD DIFF OIL - 3 L of 80w-90 Gear Oil (GL5) or equivalent. You probably want to change this after 100000K
But for normal filters 12000K with synthetic is a good oil change interval.

Just remember 3.2 Turbo diesel, Oil catch can, EGR block off
3.0 Neo Diesel, manual boost controller, oil catch can, EGR block off.