The Fall of Nissan CVT

[travajante]

Under warranty, they're fine. Beyond? Be prepared.

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[StockEngine]

nissan ph is a bright spot.. but

old altima
old xtrail
old pathfinder
old joke..
old kicks...


Nissan planning to cut over 1, jobs worldwide

[diehard]

I wonder how much better Nissan sales would be if they juat stopped using JATCO CVTs and shifted to modern 8/9 speed ATs? There seems to be a growing segment of the buying public that avoids CVT equpped cars...that said, Nissan still sells a boatload of cars despite the bad rep of their CVTs.

[StockEngine]

I wonder how much better Nissan sales would be if they juat stopped using JATCO CVTs and shifted to modern 8/9 speed ATs? There seems to be a growing segment of the buying public that avoids CVT equpped cars...that said, Nissan still sells a boatload of cars despite the bad rep of their CVTs.

it is what it is...

[Egan101]

I wonder how much better Nissan sales would be if they juat stopped using JATCO CVTs and shifted to modern 8/9 speed ATs? There seems to be a growing segment of the buying public that avoids CVT equpped cars...that said, Nissan still sells a boatload of cars despite the bad rep of their CVTs.

The fact remains that globally there are still a lot of people who buy their products. The Nissan-Renault-Mitsubishi group is playing third to VW and Toyota in global sales. Maybe in the small car segment, they are playing catch up.


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[diehard]

The fact remains that globally there are still a lot of people who buy their products. The Nissan-Renault-Mitsubishi group is playing third to VW and Toyota in global sales. Maybe in the small car segment, they are playing catch up.


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Per JATO (automotive industry intelligence provider) Nissan alone as a brand ranked #5 in 2018 with overall sales of 4.75m units (behind Toyota, VW, Ford and Honda). With the impending closure of inefficient overseas plants, rationalization of their product line and the move away from low margin fleet sales, they are likely to be overtaken by Hyundai in 2019 and dropmdown to #6. Still, even if they fall to approx 4m units, that’s still a lot of cars. I think that indicates many people don’t know or care about what transmission their car comes with as long as it shifts automatically. Also, the prevalence of leasing rather than outright purchase of vehicles (30% in US, 70-80% Canada) might also be a factor as lessees are not as particular about long term durability as they are about fuel efficiency during the term of their lease.

[travajante]

Finally.....Hope everyone follows. Toyota is already moving away from CVTs, too.
Aisin 8-Speed FWD Transaxles - Volvo, Toyota, Lexus, GM - YouTube

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[StockEngine]

Toyota is already moving away from CVTs, too.


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which cars?

[sparc179]

They might also drop the Sylphy/Sentra soon.

https://www.*****************/articl...ts-lineup-2022

Things are not looking bright for Nissan.

Edit: The site is autodeal(dot)com(dot)ph

[travajante]

which cars?

For now, the heavier ones are seeing 8 & 10A/Ts. RAV, Camry, Avalon, Highlander, Sienna, Lexus. We all know CVTs can't mate w/ torque. Let's hope it'll trickle down to their smaller offerings like the Corolla.
Toyota's NEW Direct 8 speed & 10 speed Automatic Transmission - YouTube

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[StockEngine]

For now, the heavier ones are seeing 8 & 10A/Ts. RAV, Camry, Avalon, Highlander, Sienna, Lexus. We all know CVTs can't mate w/ torque. Let's hope it'll trickle down to their smaller offerings like the Corolla.
Toyota's NEW Direct 8 speed & 10 speed Automatic Transmission - YouTube

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there is cvt with motors. highlander hybrids will get this. corolla 11th gen wont have 8spds. as well as the vios.

[travajante]

there is cvt with motors. highlander hybrids will get this. corolla 11th gen wont have 8spds. as well as the vios.

Hybrids will likely stay w/ eCVT.

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[Egan101]

For now, the heavier ones are seeing 8 & 10A/Ts. RAV, Camry, Avalon, Highlander, Sienna, Lexus. We all know CVTs can't mate w/ torque. Let's hope it'll trickle down to their smaller offerings like the Corolla.
Toyota's NEW Direct 8 speed & 10 speed Automatic Transmission - YouTube

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Kaya naman ng CVT to handle ample torque but up to 400Nm lang with Subaru application. The CVT on Subaru's turbo-powered cars and those with the boxer 6 can handle up to 400Nm of twist. The WRX S4 (JDM only) with CVT is rated at 300PS/400Nm. The base tune of the FA20 is at 350Nm while the newer FA24 is at 375Nm.

I guess that is more than enough torque for a normal day's use.

[StockEngine]

I would love to get an 8spd xtrail or 8spd pathfinder. wag lng variable compression engine