what is and how hard to drive your 1st MC?

[alwayz_yummy]

as asked....by a "would be" newbie

how hard it is? is having a background in bicycle driving helps in driving a scooter?

as a would be 1st time MC driver, aside from getting a scooter, woul be an underbone with automatic clutch or with a hand clutch be easy enough for me to handle..

would a 100cc scoot / underbone carry me around despite the fact i weigh as much as the scoot/underbone itself? or better yet i'll get a 125 or 150cc?

what can you suggest i'll get? parang maganda yung yama x1 or sniper...ok din ba ang raider? or just stick to the common wave and xrm nalang...

di ko na tatanung ang quad--kasi parang kotse na din siguro yun i-drive...

salamats...

[fourtheboys96]

i am not an MC expert. in fact i am an MC newbie. mga 2 weeks pa lang sa amin yung MC. second hand lang.


share ko lang yung experience ko. baka makatulong

as asked....by a "would be" newbie

how hard it is? is having a background in bicycle driving helps in driving a scooter?

you should definitely know how to ride a bicycle to be able to learn how to drive an MC. both have two wheels so you should know how to balance it while it is moving. learning the bicycle, imho, is easier because it is lighter though you have to power it urself for it to move.

so to answer the 1st question, driving an MC is similar to riding a bicycle. if it is easy for you to ride the bicycle, it would probably also easy for you to drive the MC.


as a would be 1st time MC driver, aside from getting a scooter, woul be an underbone with automatic clutch or with a hand clutch be easy enough for me to handle..

automatic clutch is more convenient and probably easier to drive for newbies like us. although if you know how to drive a manual transmission car, you'll have an idea how to drive an MC with hand clutch. konting adjustment lang sa coordination ng left and right hand.



would a 100cc scoot / underbone carry me around despite the fact i weigh as much as the scoot/underbone itself? or better yet i'll get a 125 or 150cc?

i've seen a lot of big people abusing small scooters without them encountering any problems with their scoot.

if a 150cc business type MC can haul a metal side car with at least 5 people inside (ganyan sito sa province) plus some baggages from the public market, i dont see any problem in a 100cc scoot carrrying a giant. :d


what can you suggest i'll get? parang maganda yung yama x1 or sniper...ok din ba ang raider? or just stick to the common wave and xrm nalang...

i have a wave 125 kasi sa honda dealer nag work kumpare ko. pero based sa looks, ok din yung raider (mukang pormado na). ok din yung yamaha kasi mejo iba siya sa generic look ng scooter ngayon. raider and yamaha MC, i heard are more expensive than honda.

afaik, xrm and raider have hand clutches.

di ko na tatanung ang quad--kasi parang kotse na din siguro yun i-drive...

buti na lang. i know nothing about quads. :D

salamats...

[jazcker]

of course...background in bicycle driving is really a great help in driving a motorized bike. the balance is already there.

the best way for a newbie is to have a scooter for his first bike. just twist and go. pag medyo di ka na nalilito pwede ka na sa may manual clutch. kung nahihirapan ka pa rin, sa automatic clutch ka muna. but, if you have all the guts you can go straight for a manual clutch kahit first time mo pa lang mag-bike...off course you need a good teacher!

100cc is more than enough to carry you!

dont go for a raider 150 (the one with manual clutch) mahirap dalhin to para sa mga baguhan! this is a very powerful bike, mind you!

quad is for off-road.

[jazcker]

afaik, xrm and raider have hand clutches.

both xrm110 & xrm125 have automatic clutch...

[niky]

It's best to start with a simple bike, like a Honda Wave with the automatic clutch... and it'll be slow enough to allow you to become acclimatized with scooter riding.

Bigger bikes, in the 125-150cc range, like the XRM or Raider, aren't especially difficult to ride, given some practice, but the speeds such bikes as the Raider are capable of (compared to your regular 60-80 km/h scooter, 120-140 km/h is scorching...) are dangerous for reckless and inexperienced riders. Personally, I can't see myself using the Raider's full revs (11,000 rpm plus, dear Lord) anywhere but on a deserted six-lane wide road. Driving a sequential manual like the Raider's isn't difficult if you understand how a clutch works... it just takes a little practice to learn how to use the hand clutch and foot-shifter.

I'm not a regular rider myself (I ride, like... once every six months?), but I have no problem getting on an automatic scoot and getting on the road... you just have to careful and mindful of the traffic around you.

[alwayz_yummy]

manual naman kotse ko, nakakapagdrive na ako ng scooter..pero yung mga underbone na auto clutch di pa..so kung papractisan ko lang muna yung raider 110 ng bayaw ko, kahit 1st gear lang, somehow makakaya ba ko yun at matututo ko dun?

lakas ba talaga sipa ng raider 150?--front & rear disk brakes na talaga ba mga yun at puros hand clutch lang?ganda pa ng guage...pero pwede dun muna ako aral sa raider ni bayaw then pag kaya ko na or stable na pwede na ko dumirecho sa raider 150?

mas lalo siguro di ako pwede sa mga 250cc up bikes...

anywayz, kung yamaha x-1 na auto clutch--ok na din ba?

nga pala, how would i monitor kung overheating na yung makina?? wala naman temp guage,e.. at paano shifting, nalalagyan ba ng tachmeter? sana ko tumingin ng tachmeter e...

[jazcker]

malakas talaga ang raider 150. iiwanan nito ang honda cbr150 sa drag race or even a 2.5 pajero. for a first timer di madali dalhin to...but since you can drive a cage you know the principle of clutching...but never forget...sa 4 wheels wala kang tumba...sa bike...oh no!

big bikes are heavy. kung maikli at di ganun kalakas ang paa mo baka di mo kakayanin.

may mga bikes na may tacho na...you can install aftermarkets dun sa wala.mahirap yun tingin ng tingin sa tacho...even a small stone on the road can cause you catastrophe...

[alwayz_yummy]

un nga.. may basic briefing na ako to drive 2 wheelies...hehehe..ganun kalakas yung raider 150! kaya pala iilan lang sa cabanatuan meron nun, di pala biro MC na yun..

raider 110 lang sa bayaw ko,e...tatakot ako baka matumba ko,e... or dahil lang kasi di sa akin yun bike kaya ako nagaalangan...

teka, wala bang underbone na may malaki-laking cubby hole?? or scooters/big scooters lang may privilage of space?

[niky]

A Raider is just heavy enough to require some getting used to, compared to a regular 50cc or 100cc scoot, but it's no biggie. And it's not hard to drive... the Raider's power only kicks in hard after about 5000 or 6000 rpm, and if you're a newbie, you'll probably be shifting gingerly at 3000 or so... at which point, it is still good mannered.

[v22]

You should decide first wether you gonna go the underbone route, scooter, moto or big bike..

Personally for a newbie i would suggest trying out a "small scooter" mala honda dio... mura lang naman mga ito, masarap gamitn pag jan jan lang.. tsaka mo marealize kung gusto mo pa ng more power... kung malaki/malapd na tao, again i would personally suggest a maxi scoot, dink, joyride, X9, majesty etc.. ONLY if you think that twist and go operation is more to your liking. Others kasi want a more controlled handling kaya gusto nila manual transmission..

Anyway, pag sawa ka na sa small scoot marealize mo na rin if you wanna upgrade to motocross, bigbikes or fast underbones.

safety tip... upgrade your skills first before upgrading to bigger displacements. Some people want to go big CC's fast.. only to realize they cannot handle em the way they are intended for.. mas masaya pa sila sa smaller displacements.

[zeus17]

i am no expert in MCs but i think things are different in a riders eyes

since youve been a cager and basically knows the principle of clutching or MT yakang yaka mo na manual clutch na MC same principles are used medyo kailngan mo lng maging accustomed sa parts ng mc like

your hands will be the ones to be used to make the shift work..

bali ung imbes na tatapak ka sa clutch sa mc kamay mo pipiga sa clutch,tpos paa mo ung kakambyo since ung shifter e asa paa..

Well
ako siguro iba...i advice you to start sa manual..parang sa auto kpag maruniong ka mag MT sisiw na AT...

Plus believe me the need for speed and a higher displacement bike will sink in as soon as youve learned...

Regarding in choosing your bike..choose a bike that will suit your needs...

and Raider well kaya unti meron not because it is powerful and mhrap dalhin....Main reason is MAHAL siya for a UB it will cost you around 90k more or less....

pero mind you tama sla raider R150 or raider jr are really powerful bikes...


Regarding sa gs2 mong bikes Sniper ba un At X1
both are REALLY gOOd bikes as in smooth na smooth...


LAstLy AND the MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL


When riding any MC may it be a scoot or a big bike...WEAR A GOOD HELMEt and weaR Protective gear ride safe xmpre..



Pero xmpre ride at your own pace..


at nga pla 400k sa scoot?mahal..
pero kung gn2 budget mo bili ka isa scoot at CBR tpos isang UB tpos praktis ka sa scoot sa ub tpos pag sanay punta ka sa mga tambayan gamit cbr mo.hehehhe


UUnga pla un wave,xrm my ubox or compartment kasya half face helmet at sapatos at maliit na anik anik...heheheh

well some may not agree with my opinion..
IMHO lng aman ito....


tpos alam ko my honda riding academy...enroll ka dun if you want..heheh


well kung talagang decided kna mag MC Browse ka sa MCP forums
we could assist you ...Dun lahat nag momotot...hehehe


plus the highr CC more power...more gas...heheh

[alwayz_yummy]

un nga,e.. well, after looking at some models, parang type ko yung nuovo--mas malaki compartment, scooter-type na UB..full auto ika nga. malaki pa headlight.

gwapo at maangas kasi ang raider..tama ka dun mahal nga raider for a UB--unlike wave and xrm...

ok kaya nouvo or mio na ganito:

[v22]

ok pareho, pero mas type ko mio. cute kasi afaik meron labas ang sym or kymco a lot cheaper than mio.

[alwayz_yummy]

tibay ba yung kymco and/or SYM--yamaha kasi e, may pangalan..mahal lang daw piyesa ng yamaha,e...(totoo ba yun)

(nakow parang toyota, honda, mitsubishi vs chery, hyundai, kia, deawoo...este..chevrolet pala)

after watching american chopper kanina, ok naman pala scooter,a--kaya naman pala pang malayuan at di naman pala ganun kasagwa tignan pag sinakyan na...knowing na mas malaking tao sila than me..

[wrcastro_ph]

tibay ba yung kymco and/or SYM--yamaha kasi e, may pangalan..mahal lang daw piyesa ng yamaha,e...(totoo ba yun)

(nakow parang toyota, honda, mitsubishi vs chery, hyundai, kia, deawoo...este..chevrolet pala)

after watching american chopper kanina, ok naman pala scooter,a--kaya naman pala pang malayuan at di naman pala ganun kasagwa tignan pag sinakyan na...knowing na mas malaking tao sila than me..

Di naman mahal ang parts ng yamaha. It's a durable scooter and you can't go wrong with nouvo or Mio 3. I suggest that you get a new Nouvo Z or Mio 3 pero walang mio 3 sa Norkis. Nouvo Z lang meron ang price nya is around 72K while mio 3 is around 83k (gray market kase yan). They shared the same engine 115cc 4-stroke. Kayang mag top speed ng 100 km/h nyan in stock form. Ang pagkakaiba lang nila ay :

NOUVO Z :
- 16 inch ang tires
- hindi flat ang flooring
- mas malaki ito kesa mio

MIO 3
- 14 inch ang tires
- flat flooring
- mas maliit kesa nouvo


For endurance, No problem with both scoot and you can bring and drive this as far as you can. with an average fuel consumption of 40-45 kms per liter.

NOUVO Z is my personal choice.

[alwayz_yummy]

mio 3 pala yung pinost ko--imported pala yun, iilan lang pa meron kaya mio3 at saan kaya makakakita ng real unit? naseservice ba sa norkis yung mio3?

or nouvo Z nalang ako?

matibay ba naman belt ng mga yun?

magkaroon man ako, siguro stock lights lang naman papalitan/modify ko ng prenium all-weathers,e..

[wrcastro_ph]

mio 3 pala yung pinost ko--imported pala yun, iilan lang pa meron kaya mio3 at saan kaya makakakita ng real unit? naseservice ba sa norkis yung mio3?

or nouvo Z nalang ako?

matibay ba naman belt ng mga yun?

magkaroon man ako, siguro stock lights lang naman papalitan/modify ko ng prenium all-weathers,e..

Sa caloocan "tres hermanas" meron sila nyan. Nag se-service din siguro ang Norkis nyan pero me bayad. Batibay sir ang belt nyan, di yan basta-basta bumibigay for at least 10k kms siguro. 900 pesos lang naman ang orig nyan.


Pero madali lang i DIY ang scooter. maski ikaw kaya mo na yan.

Nouvo Z ka na lang. 2 pa ang shocks sa likod nyan unlike Mio na single shocks lang.

[1D4LV]

as asked....by a "would be" newbie

how hard it is? is having a background in bicycle driving helps in driving a scooter?

i used to be a mountain biker. and imho, driving a scooter is different from riding a bike.

as a would be 1st time MC driver, aside from getting a scooter, woul be an underbone with automatic clutch or with a hand clutch be easy enough for me to handle..

with an automatic clutch, i think it would be easy, but it would be different from something with a hand clutch.

would a 100cc scoot / underbone carry me around despite the fact i weigh as much as the scoot/underbone itself? or better yet i'll get a 125 or 150cc?

where would you use it bro? as much as possible, get the 150 cc na. halos pareho din naman ang costs, but you would appreciate the additional HP.

what can you suggest i'll get? parang maganda yung yama x1 or sniper...ok din ba ang raider? or just stick to the common wave and xrm nalang...

if you are getting this, magkano budget mo? i would suggest a vespa. very easy to handle and drive.

di ko na tatanung ang quad--kasi parang kotse na din siguro yun i-drive...

salamats...

see my replies above bro.

if you are a beginner bro, i would suggest that you get a lighter one muna which is very easy to drive. don't go the the sports type look first. kaya nga i suggested getting a vespa dahil upright ang driving position, tapos automatic clutch.

and don't forget about safety bro. wear your helmet, and if you can afford it, go for the body vests and knee/leg protectors.

when i made the transition from a mountain bike to a MC, i started muna sa maliliit until may nagkaroon na ako ng confidence.

from a Vespa 125 cc, i got a 400 cc GSX-R which i use in going to work occassionally. now i am thinking of selling my 400 cc to get a 1000 cc.

[XTO]

Yes, a bicycle backround is really a great help…. In my experience, pinara-rampa ko yung bmx ko or even without front wheel for several hundred meters nung teenager ako then binilan kami ng honda 50cc with auto clutch, kayang kaya, maninibago ka lang sa speed compared sa de pedal ika nga.

nakabili si erpat ng BMW R-50 from actor Dante Rivero in the 70s. ito ang pinanghinayangan naming ng kuya ko dahil kung meron ka pa nito ngayon eh ibang klase! comedian chiquito and eddie garcia ang ilan sa mga meron nito noon..

ang problema lahat ng kaibigan ni erpat (he used to work in Sampaguita Pictures) sa pelikula like si Eddie Garcia na namatay (nasunog ang anak sa mc) ito ang sinabi: “Naku ibenta mo na yan, baka abutan pa ng anak mo yan eh magsisi ka” kaya eto bawal na ang motor sa min…

doble or triple ingat lang pagdating sa mc.

[alwayz_yummy]

basically, ako lang naman gagamit, ng motor,e.. at pan arounder the corner lang...bibihira japanese scoot sa atin na atleast 100cc, tsaka karamihan ng 50cc scoot walang papel,e..

OT: XTO > ilan consumo at kaya kargahin ng XTO mo? diba pwede naman cladding ng XUV sa XTO?