Scooter sa slex? pwede b dumaan?

[surewin]

may kasabay ako this morning(12/22/05) around 630am,south bound, 5 motorcycles...4 na big bike at 1 110cc-scooter...
ang alam ko 400cc up ang pede dumaan sa expressway...

[mazdamazda]

tigas talaga ng ulo ng ibang tao...

[nemo's friend]

tigas talaga ng ulo ng ibang tao...

di pa sila nahuhuli sa toll gate? di pa ako nakasabay/nakakita ng nagbabayad ng toll eh ... dapat dun huli sila. may PNCC officer dun di ba?

[umzzzzz]

hinde pwede yan...mahagingan ng truck o bus yan talsik yan...yung hatchback nga na matabihan ng truck nanginginig na e...yung 110cc p kaya na scooter.

[badsekktor]

the sub 400 cc ban imposed on the expressways is illegal so i think that is the reason why some of pncc men allow these bikes to pass.

And common misconception na kapag nahagingan eh tatalsik na yun motor kasi kung ganun ang mangyayari eh di sana naaksidente na yun naka 110 cc na motor. Saka lahat ng mga motor ng pncc eh below 400 cc so isang indication na safe ang sub-400 cc sa expressways. Actually dito lang sa pilipinas meron ban na ganyan! other countries allow 100ccs, 150 ccs on their expressways...

yan din ang reason kung bakit binoboycott ng mga bikers around the world ang bansa natin.. dahil sa ganyan policies sa expressways.

[vinj]

yan din ang reason kung bakit binoboycott ng mga bikers around the world ang bansa natin.. dahil sa ganyan policies sa expressways.

I don't think the biking skill and discipline of a majority of the bikers (usually those in the underbones and scooters) we have on the streets now will be safe on the expressways given the kind of drivers we Pinoys are.

No offense meant to our two-wheels friends (beep beep) but just seeing the way a lot of them like to weave in and out in traffic, but don't have the speed and the heft to maintain stability on the expressway (and how majority of the drivers don't give much respect to small bikes on main roads) could mean more accidents. My observation is they're usually fast in accelerating (Arankada) but once the speed builds up (over 70-80kph) wala na rin; unless they're modified internally (not just those loud mufflers).

Di pa tayo handa for those on our expressways IMO. Usually (but not all the time) the bikers i see on expressways are the bigger bikes where usually the riders are trained to ride defensively and with discipline (and in groups).

My .02

[jomed]

lets go back to the topic..

although there is now a supreme court decision which "voids" the (TRB) toll reguLatory board/ pncc, executive order of dpwh which banning the sub 400 cc to use the nlex/slex. but in reality, its still unsafe for small displacement scooters such as dio50cc, or turbo70cc and the likes to use the nlex/slex because of the wind drag caused by bus/large vehicles moving 120 -140 kph ++.
pero kung scooter with higher diplacement such as 400cc, 500cc, 650cc & 850cc like the suzuki burgman, the honda silverwing, yamaha majesty/tmax or piaggio 500cc can pass the slex/nlex. no doubt...

ride safely!

[squatt3r]

naku yang mga scooter at bike sa daan pasingit singit. pag nadale mo naman ikaw ang talo.

[mazdamazda]

lets go back to the topic..

although there is now a supreme court decision which "voids" the (TRB) toll reguLatory board/ pncc, executive order of dpwh which banning the sub 400 cc to use the nlex/slex.

yup.

that's because the one who could impose such a ban is the DOTC.

the DOTC can just reinstate the "Limited Highway" status of the NLEX & SLEX without any glitch and which effectively bans sub 400 cc MCs.

[Raiderx150]

I don't think the biking skill and discipline of a majority of the bikers (usually those in the underbones and scooters) we have on the streets now will be safe on the expressways given the kind of drivers we Pinoys are.

No offense meant to our two-wheels friends (beep beep) but just seeing the way a lot of them like to weave in and out in traffic, but don't have the speed and the heft to maintain stability on the expressway (and how majority of the drivers don't give much respect to small bikes on main roads) could mean more accidents. My observation is they're usually fast in accelerating (Arankada) but once the speed builds up (over 70-80kph) wala na rin; unless they're modified internally (not just those loud mufflers).

Di pa tayo handa for those on our expressways IMO. Usually (but not all the time) the bikers i see on expressways are the bigger bikes where usually the riders are trained to ride defensively and with discipline (and in groups).

My .02

Before I used to think na hindi comfortable ang mag drive ng 2 wheel compared to 4 wheel vehicle, but honestly speaking based from my experience of driving a 4wheel and 2 wheel alternately from work to home and vice versa for a stretch of 115Kms daily, there's no big difference between a car and an underbone with a full safety gear (helmet, etc).

"My observation is they're usually fast in accelerating (Arankada) but once the speed builds up (over 70-80kph) wala na rin;"

This is not true when you experienced driving a 150cc underbone, 90kph in an underbone feels like 60kph, and 100kph feels like 80kph and for a 2 wheel like raider150, it's only on its 5th gear with 1 more gear waiting for 120+kph. Kaya when you experinced it, you will know it.

[rsnald]

the sub 400 cc ban imposed on the expressways is illegal so i think that is the reason why some of pncc men allow these bikes to pass.

And common misconception na kapag nahagingan eh tatalsik na yun motor kasi kung ganun ang mangyayari eh di sana naaksidente na yun naka 110 cc na motor. Saka lahat ng mga motor ng pncc eh below 400 cc so isang indication na safe ang sub-400 cc sa expressways. Actually dito lang sa pilipinas meron ban na ganyan! other countries allow 100ccs, 150 ccs on their expressways...

yan din ang reason kung bakit binoboycott ng mga bikers around the world ang bansa natin.. dahil sa ganyan policies sa expressways.

ok lang sana magpapasok ng motorsiklo sa SLEX or NLEX.... kung..... may displina lahat. as it is, yun nga naka 4 wheels na, wala pang disiplina, samahan mo pa ng mga nakamotorsiklo. I've nothing against motorcyclist, pero I think para na rin sa kaligtasan ng motorcyclist yung ban.

[konde]

may nakakalusot talaga.

btw, ano nga ba dahilan at 400cc lang pwede sa expressway?

[greenlyt]

patulog - tulog kasi mga PNCC Patrol dyan eh kaya daming nakakalusot, imagine may nakasabay ako dyan dati naka bike lang north bound after the Nichols Toll Plaza

[umzzzzz]

ayy ganun???so mali pala yung thought na yun...eheheh..now i know...pero ano kaya ang nangyari sa past na naging dahilan kung bakit banned ang below 400cc bikes??

[badsekktor]

ayy ganun???so mali pala yung thought na yun...eheheh..now i know...pero ano kaya ang nangyari sa past na naging dahilan kung bakit banned ang below 400cc bikes??

before kasi... i forgot the year. i believe parade nun at dumating ang isang US president(forgot kung sino!) May isang police na namatay sa expressway dahil sa parade na yun. Pinatanggal kasi ang helmet nila at pinagsuot ng nipa cap kaya ayun nagsemplang kahit mabagal ang parada eh masama bagsak tapos walang helmet kaya nadedo! Since that incident, nabuo yun total ban. Motorcycle enthusiasts petitioned for the lifting of the ban at nagkaroon ng laban sa korte. natalo ang pncc pero di nila totally ni-lift yun ban at nag-limit sila ng 400 cc. actually 500 cc dapat kaso nagkaroon ng renegotiations kaya bumaba sa 400 cc. Ang reason kung bakit hindi inaallow ang below 400 cc is because naniniwala yun dating pncc chairman na ang owner ng mga sub-400 cc bikes are illiterate, walang pera, mga bobo... so in other words eh discriminatory reasons ang dahilan.

[zero]

alam ko yung former president ng phil. motorcycle assn. diyan namatay sa SLEX after he was dragged by a trailer truck a year ago. dapat maging eye-opener na yan sa mga kanilang mga nka-motorsiklo.

[1D4LV]

have tried riding a 200 cc sportsbike sa coastal before, pero di rin ako sinita. afaik, yung 400 cc and below should be enforced sa lahat ng major expressways (coastal, slex, nlex).

[badsekktor]

whether you are on a bike or in a car... accidents do happen and accidents can be fatal...

[FrankDrebin]

110cc ba? May mga scooter na 400cc.

[mazdamazda]

I'd rather be on a car than a bike should an accident happen to me.

I've experienced several vehicular accidents already (two of them major) - and the worst of them (car flipped over in the NLEX) only required a few stitches on my head.