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    #3761
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    Kung yung eg hatch has a PH12 or D13/D15 stock engine (not modified) kayang sibakin yan ni 1ZR-FE [emoji16]

    Ibang usapan na iyan pag naka b series or k series yung eg civic. Hahahah

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    Noone races with a PH12. Usually D15. And a D15 has 130 hp with a 950 kg body. But more than outright power, cornering ability wins races - which is why good tires, suspension, and brakes are far more important than horsepower.

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    #3762
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    Kung yung eg hatch has a PH12 or D13/D15 stock engine (not modified) kayang sibakin yan ni 1ZR-FE [emoji16]

    Ibang usapan na iyan pag naka b series or k series yung eg civic. Hahahah

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    NA engines pa lang usapan dito. Ano pa kung turbocharged engines?

    You know what would be a good Honda project - A Jazz GE (2nd gen) with an L15B7 (Civic RS). Comfy enough for a daily drive but it would be crazy quick.


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    #3763
    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    NA engines pa lang usapan dito. Ano pa kung turbocharged engines?

    You know what would be a good Honda project - A Jazz GE (2nd gen) with an L15B7 (Civic RS). Comfy enough for a daily drive but it would be crazy quick.


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    that would be nice to see contrast sa K20A swapped Jazzes. we know the k20 has more power pero baka torquier down low ang l15 turbo.

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    #3764
    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    NA engines pa lang usapan dito. Ano pa kung turbocharged engines?

    You know what would be a good Honda project - A Jazz GE (2nd gen) with an L15B7 (Civic RS). Comfy enough for a daily drive but it would be crazy quick.


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    May kumakarera sa Touge Battle with a GD Jazz with L15 turbo.

    Tuned all-motor B16/B18/B20 Civics are still faster.

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    #3765
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Noone races with a PH12. Usually D15. And a D15 has 130 hp with a 950 kg body. But more than outright power, cornering ability wins races - which is why good tires, suspension, and brakes are far more important than horsepower.

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    sorry ot lang ng konti.

    question lang kasi medyo lito ako na skip ko ata yung phase ko na pagiging honda fan boy nung 90's hehe. medyo matanda na kasi.

    ang Ph16 ay chassis code tama ba po ng mga VTI?
    D16y yun single VTEC engine ng VTI?

    tapos yun local na LXI is a D15 single VTEC engine as opposed to D15B double VTEC na Japan with P08 computer box version?

    tama po ba?

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    #3766
    Quote Originally Posted by babkalakal View Post
    that would be nice to see contrast sa K20A swapped Jazzes. we know the k20 has more power pero baka torquier down low ang l15 turbo.
    The usual NA K20 A3/A4 (Accord 7th gen, Civic FD, CRV 2nd gen) is only rated at less than 160hp/188Nm while the most powerful one, K20A, is rated at around 220hp/200Nm which was used on the Integra and previous Civic Type R.

    The L15B7 in its lowest output tune (Civic RS) is rated at 174hp/220Nm while the most powerful version is on the Civic Si rated at 205hp/260Nm.

    The new Civic Type R uses a turbo version of the K20, the K20C. It is rated at 306hp/400Nm.


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    #3767
    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    The usual NA K20 A3/A4 (Accord 7th gen, Civic FD, CRV 2nd gen) is only rated at less than 160hp/188Nm while the most powerful one, K20A, is rated at around 220hp/200Nm which was used on the Integra and previous Civic Type R.

    The L15B7 in its lowest output tune (Civic RS) is rated at 174hp/220Nm while the most powerful version is on the Civic Si rated at 205hp/260Nm.

    The new Civic Type R uses a turbo version of the K20, the K20C. It is rated at 306hp/400Nm.


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    i have not seen an non "A" K20 swapped into a jazz. but in any event 160hp is still significant for a jazz
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    #3768
    Yung sayang talaga is the Mitsu Evo. They even came up with the bonkers FQ400 model which made 400hp/500Nm from its 2.0L engine.


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    #3769
    ^ kaya ba kumana ang all -stock fd2 na a/t sa mga ganito?

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    #3770
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    ^ kaya ba kumana ang all -stock fd2 na a/t sa mga ganito?
    The Civic FD 2.0L had a K20 engine rated at over 150hp. It is quick and fast for a stock compact car but against the new turbo Civic RS or Mazda3 2.0L, it will be challenged. Against tuned Civic EKs or a WRX STi or Evolution with around 300hp, it will be no contest.


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    alam niyo ano mabilis around the track?

    the humble civic ek lxi

    ask niyo mga may experience

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    #3772
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    alam niyo ano mabilis around the track?

    the humble civic ek lxi

    ask niyo mga may experience
    Yup merong super galing sa Togue Battle, stock LXi engine (non-VTEC) but beats much faster cars kahit 86/BRZ or SiR.

    Kaso tingnan mo discussion dito puro makina lang pinaguusapan eh last yan sa priority. Kahit stock makina mo kung busog elsewhere, talo niyan yung may high horsepower na engine.

    And above all, kailangan marunong ang driver.

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    #3773
    yep ganyan pag bench racer puro HP lang

    in the real world it's more than HP

    it's suspension (the humble lxi has double wishbone)

    it's power to weight

    it's tires

    and of course driver skill

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    #3774
    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    The Civic FD 2.0L had a K20 engine rated at over 150hp. It is quick and fast for a stock compact car but against the new turbo Civic RS or Mazda3 2.0L, it will be challenged. Against tuned Civic EKs or a WRX STi or Evolution with around 300hp, it will be no contest.


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    ah so meron din pala lumalaban na mga matic sa ganyan.

    i never really engaged nor dreamt on engaging in motorsports kaya nakakagulat din.

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    #3775
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    ah so meron din pala lumalaban na mga matic sa ganyan.

    i never really engaged nor dreamt on engaging in motorsports kaya nakakagulat din.
    Oo naman. I'd say around 1/3 of cars who join local races are automatics.

    Have personally joined with my CVT Civic and 4AT Mazda 3. A friend regularly joins with his 6AT Mustang, fastest Mustang in the country. Dami rin naka SkyActiv Mazda 2 and 3 na sumasali. Then you have your Clubman cup pa with mostly Euro cars which are mostly automatics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Oo naman. I'd say around 1/3 of cars who join local races are automatics.

    Have personally joined with my CVT Civic and 4AT Mazda 3. A friend regularly joins with his 6AT Mustang, fastest Mustang in the country. Dami rin naka SkyActiv Mazda 2 and 3 na sumasali. Then you have your Clubman cup pa with mostly Euro cars which are mostly automatics.

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    ah talaga.

    kung sabagay mga naka paddle shifters na din siguro iyong mga lumalaban sa ganyan.

    if ever may accident, sinasagot din ng insurance?

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    #3777
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    ah talaga.

    kung sabagay mga naka paddle shifters na din siguro iyong mga lumalaban sa ganyan.

    if ever may accident, sinasagot din ng insurance?
    Hindi. Insurance doesn't cover racing.

    Ginagawa ng iba gumagawa ng affidavit na the accident didnt happen on track para maka-claim.

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    #3778
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yep ganyan pag bench racer puro HP lang

    in the real world it's more than HP

    it's suspension (the humble lxi has double wishbone)

    it's power to weight

    it's tires

    and of course driver skill
    Biggest factor is the one holding the wheel. No amount of engine output or suspension upgrades will help if the one driving doesn’t have the nerves to push his ride to the limits of its engine and handling.


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    #3779
    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Biggest factor is the one holding the wheel. No amount of engine output or suspension upgrades will help if the one driving doesn’t have the nerves to push his ride to the limits of its engine and handling.


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    Agree, I am a racer also pag nalasing na hehe, back in the days I would race my fellow sales manager at nlex, me with a Civic FG, he witha Mitsubishi L200 pick up diesel, iwan ako hehe, di kaya ng dibdib ko kahit may alak. [emoji75]

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    #3780
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Agree, I am a racer also pag nalasing na hehe, back in the days I would race my fellow sales manager at nlex, me with a Civic FG, he witha Mitsubishi L200 pick up diesel, iwan ako hehe, di kaya ng dibdib ko kahit may alak. [emoji75]
    Yung l200 ba niya yung di-d common rail turbo engine na? Or yung old model na 4d56 ng l300

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