OPINIONS NEEDED: 99 Pajero 4x4 A/T Gen 2.5

[mbt]

glow plugs preheat the combustion chamber before starting to facilitate starting (especially in cold climates, but not really a problem for us)

about RAV4 v. pajero, depende yan. essentially, it's a question of a car versus a truck.

RAV4 will drive better on the road. quicker to accelerate, easier to overtake with, smoother, more refined, more fun to drive, better steering, quieter on the road, nimbler, easier to maneuver, much tighter turning radius, safer in a crash against something static, lesser tendency to roll over in sharp maneuvers,...

it also has a more pleasant interior (dated na yung pajero interior, it is after all a model that was introduced in 1992 or so!), a tighter structure, potentially less rattles, squeaks and creaks, and a more convenient (lower) load floor.

on the other hand, the Pajero is simply ancient in comparison, but it is: tougher (with a real truck frame and heavier-duty suspensions), more capable (it will tow big things, like another car of yours if it will stall somewhere, like this one: http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9797 ; it will haul things, and real four-wheel drive with low range will let you go places that will kill the RAV4), generally safer in the real world (where you'd be more likely to crash into another car, in which case weight will be to your advantage), probably more economical (uses less of a cheaper fuel, parts are cheap and plentiful), easier to maintain (without any computers in the engine bay, it's vastly easier to fix and work on)...

there's also the better visibility from the higher seat point and the "prestige" of driving a pajero (unfortunately, pajeros are also quite popular among carnappers or worse).

but coming from a RAV4, be warned, the pajero will be slow and clumsy in comparison. hehe. don't drive the pajero like a RAV4, and don't expect it to be one.

it's a case of a miata versus a farm tractor. if you're not interested in off-roading (which includes attacking big floods) or are interested in the pajero mainly for the "looks", you'll be better served by your RAV4.

but the pajero, old as it may be, is still a good package for what it is -- a real truck. it's also in the unique position of being the best all-around choice if you want a large, true 4x4 for far less than 1 million bucks. the Nissan Patrol Safari is another choice, but it's a real farm tractor hehehe. the trooper wasn't very popular in 4x4 guise. expeditions and GU patrols are out of the question. Land Cruiser prados are still expensive i think. used Ford Everests are another option, but they don't have the street cred and feel somewhat utilitarian compared to the pajero.

[mbt]

to add, if you need the space and won't mind the sloppier and more tiresome drive, go for that pajero. it's being offered to you for a good price from someone you know, and if you want, 4L will let you go places (think of it as compensation for the lousier on-road handling!)

[odell]

sa pajero ako.. kahit na lower model. i think it would more dependable than the rav4

[oldblue]

my tito is selling his 99 Pajero 4x4 A/T Gen 2.5 for P750K -- is this a good deal? it needs new tires daw and the engine needs to be calibrated. hard-starting na raw sa umaga e.

shall i replace my 2002 Rav4 J 4x4 A/T with this? need the extra space.

will test drive it later. hopefully, di sya matagtag.

opinions/recommendations pls.

salamat!

what's the mileage?

[staind]

mbt/others,
thx for your posts! really very informative and helpful.


mileage = 95T Km pero maganda pa makina. pina-check ko sa mekaniko e.

[pajerokid]

For the price and given na fresh pa yung unit, i'd say go for it!!!

Since it seems that your'e much okay with the ride quality (or lack thereof), which is the only real complaint against the Paj (aside from poor engine power), then i'd say you'd be happy with it.

Hiramin mo muna for a week or two, then see if it meets your day-to-day needs.

Parts are aplenty, maintenance is relatively cheap, you can have it fixed anywhere, may status pa rin sa streets, tough as nails, guwapo pa rin.... what more can you ask for? hehe

BTW, hard starting can usually be cured by a fresh set of plugs.

And no, these are not the equivalent of spark plugs. You just use them to preheat the combustion chambers when the engine is too cool.

[mbt]

makinig ka kay mr. pajerokid hehehe, he came from a RAV4 just like yours and swapped it for a gen 2.5 pajero A/T hehe

[pajerokid]

Hehe ;) I still get to use the RAV from time to time. During the time I just cant resist the allure of the Gen2.5. So nireimburse ko yung nabayaran ko sa RAV4 loan and got my ex-crimson batmobile. Never regretted it once.

[sonny]

brad, meron ba 99 paj na local na matic? db kya subis yan?

[sonny]

i mean db kya galing subic yan? anyway if space nid mo just to haul your things roofrack oks n nga, but for additional seating cap, pwede rin, oks naman ride pajero, coil naman likod nun eh

[staind]

ha? local na matic yun e. sa Mitsu Commonwealth binili. wala bang ganun? pati ako nalito ah.

[kimpOy]

meron pong matic na 4x4 na model 1999.....
the last of the 4x4 mohicans...after 99 4x2 na lahat.

[staind]

btw, forgot to mention that there's radio static, i.e. pag umaarangkada, me whining sound na lumalabas sa speakers. ganun ba talaga PAJ? Clarion yung radio nun e with Clarion CD changer.

[KCboy]

fm pajeros have susp setting so kahit paano, compensate na din.

[staind]

yep, nasa soft setting sya nung ni-test-drive ko. ok naman ang ride. me static lang nga.

[tOrPe_bOi]

la k bng pics ng paj n bibilin m?

[promdiboy]

No static sa stock clarion radio ko. kahit cd changer ko di gaano nag skip.

[pajerokid]

Staind, pare kung yung static lang problema, wag mo na problemahin Ground loop isolator lang katapat nyan.

[staind]

thx pare. did u have 2nd thoughts on ur Rav-Paj swap? yun nararamdaman ko ngayon e. hehehe. any regrets?

buti ka pa, mukhang bawi ka dun sa Rav mo.

magkano 100TKm maintenance ng Paj? 95TKm na kasi yun e.

[voltes_V]

Ako naman, gusto kong paltan ang pajero ko with a rav 4.
The 99 pajero is a good buy especially when you know the owner, but replacing a 3 year old car with a 6 year old one just wouldnt do it for me, especially if its a rav4 we're talking about which I think is a very dependable vehicle and can hold its own. Kung sa akin lang sir I'd stick with the RAV.