Altis and Pajero...

[Hell_racer]

tsikot peeps,
just want to get a feed back on toyota ALTIS... help naman

i heard the '03 pajero really kicks! meron na ba dito nun?

thanks

[mbt]

well, car & driver magazine liked the altis better than the civic and sentra and 2003 lancer (but not a lynx 2.0)...

gen3 pajero? only in the gray market. officially, mitsu philippines has no plans to release it here anytime soon (maybe in 2004...). kung gray market din lang, just get a Patrol 4x4!...or a Land Cruiser 100

[OTEP]

Hell_racer,

Sino ba gagamit? Ikaw? Hindi pwede sa iyo ang GEN III Pajero kung mag-oofroading tayo. Parang kotse pang-ilalim niyan. Monocoque chassis tapos independent suspension all around (think Toyota RAV4). Tapos ang skid plates gawa sa plastic! Holy kamote, ano ba namang Pajero ito?

Tawag sa model na ito ng mga U.S. based Pajero fans = Malltero (Montero na pang-shopping mall). :mrgreen:

Pero kung kay achi mo at kay boybi, okey na din.

Kung libre, bigyan mo na din ako ng isa.

[pajerokid]

otep:::HEHEHEHE Malltero.... Actually Monocoque chassis with subframe naman(Mitsu people would make sure to emphasize this to offroaders :D ). Yung ladder frame parang hinati sa tatlo tapos 1/3 lang ang kinabit sa front and another 1/3 sa rear :wink: Parang W123 (i think). But i agree, still not for our kind of offroading :D

[OTEP]

pajerokid,

Ganun nga yung sa W123 ko dati (nakatambak sa probinsya kasi sinira ni lolo). Pero medyo limited talaga ang articulation niya. The subframe is only good for isolating road shock and not for anything else.

May spoilerettes pa sa harap ng bumper. I bet the first rock we encounter will take out those aero add ons.

[pajerokid]

otep::: No offroader would appreciate the new Paj, sayang Yung torque split nga 33/67 instead of 50/50 sa atin! Imagine having that dun sa lahar trip natin! Eh di lalo tayong nagka stuck stuck! Im getting off topic.....

but if i ever get to manage getting my slimy hands on a Malltero ok lang hehehe :D gagawin kong Hardcore offroader yung V44 ko hehhehe. :mrgreen:

[stormer]

Plastic skid plate? I bet it's made from the same material such as those cheap hongkong toys. :lol: . But then again, any car, and I mean all cars are beautiful.... if it's free. Give me one too! :P

[mbt]

diba ang sabi ay mas malaki ang suspension articulation ng gen3 paj for all four wheels compared to the gen2 paj?

also, overlander did an SUV tow test and really liked how the new monocoque Range Rover towed their 1800 kg camper...? the new RR is also still excellent off-road, they say... :?

so what's the verdict on IFS/IRS and unibody construction for venturing off-road?

[splerdu]

we still have to wait for a true verdict on the new independent systems. the older ones didn't do well at all, kaya marami talagang purist na gusto live axles.

do you smell change in the air?

[Hell_racer]

mbt,
did it mention y it is better than civic and sentra?
kasi pinagpipilian ng friend ko tong 3 eh, kayalang kasi loyal ako sa toyota kaya
ask ako 2nd opinion

otep,
muka namang pang porma lang! d nga pedeng pang off-roading! :mrgreen:
sa frontier nalang ako ni yo makikisakay!!! :lol:
pero same lang ba body size? nakak-intriga kasi eh
san ba galing tong gen3 pajero? japan parin ba? :?:

[mbt]

Hell_racer,

the full story on the econocar comparison test is available at www.caranddriver.com and in the November 2002 issue of car & driver magazine (take note though that the corolla tested had a 1.8L engine with an m/t, and the lynx had a 2.0L engine).

basically, they liked the corolla because of the good quality, nice interior, roomy back seat, and "good blend of performance and utility" (the corolla was the quickest among the 10 or so cars tested). however, they said it still feels somewhat like an appliance... mas driver's cars ang civic and lynx.

yup, japan pa rin ang gen3 pajero. meron pa rin namang off-road capability ang gen3 pajero

[splukutum]

now if the local ford dealer would just introduce the 2.0 version of the lynx...

nuninuninuninu...

[OTEP]

Hell_racer,

Pasakay din sa Frontier ni Yo, ha. :D Galing atang China and the Middle East ang mga binebentang Pajero GEN III dito. Pero sa Japan pa rin manufactured.

Body size is still mid-size. Hindi pa naman Durango-Expedition size.

[Hell_racer]

mbt,
thanks! at least mas objective proof na un! :D

otep,
aba aba! hanggang ngayon d ka pa rin nagbabago!
tama ba namang may pasok ka na today at nasa LRU ka pa ng 10am??? :lol:
feeling ko talaga d ka estudyante! nagk-kunyari ka lang noh??? :mrgreen: joke!
pipilitin ko na talga si yo sa next off-raoding niyo :wink:

china and middle east? bkt dun ap galing? :?:

[OTEP]

Hell_racer,

Kasi kung sa Japan bibilihin RHD ang ibibigay nila kasi for export lang lahat ng LHD.

Wala na pong pasok kaya nasa LRU ako nun. Nagpunta na din ako ng UE tapos sa hotel ni boknoy tapos sa Rockwell.

May kwento sana ako sa iyo. Wala namang kwenta. Just text me when you see this.

Hello nga pala kay Yo. :mrgreen: