Altis and Pajero...

**Hell_racer** · November 1st, 2002 07:50 PM

tsikot peeps,
just want to get a feed back on toyota ALTIS... help naman

i heard the '03 pajero really kicks! meron na ba dito nun?

thanks

**mbt** · November 1st, 2002 09:33 PM

well, car & driver magazine liked the altis better than the civic and sentra and 2003 lancer (but not a lynx 2.0)...

gen3 pajero? only in the gray market. officially, mitsu philippines has no plans to release it here anytime soon (maybe in 2004...). kung gray market din lang, just get a Patrol 4x4!...or a Land Cruiser 100

**OTEP** · November 2nd, 2002 12:21 AM

Hell_racer,

Sino ba gagamit? Ikaw? Hindi pwede sa iyo ang GEN III Pajero kung mag-oofroading tayo. Parang kotse pang-ilalim niyan. Monocoque chassis tapos independent suspension all around (think Toyota RAV4). Tapos ang skid plates gawa sa plastic! Holy kamote, ano ba namang Pajero ito?

Tawag sa model na ito ng mga U.S. based Pajero fans = Malltero (Montero na pang-shopping mall). :mrgreen:

Pero kung kay achi mo at kay boybi, okey na din.

Kung libre, bigyan mo na din ako ng isa.

**pajerokid** · November 2nd, 2002 12:32 AM

otep:::HEHEHEHE Malltero.... Actually Monocoque chassis with subframe naman(Mitsu people would make sure to emphasize this to offroaders :D ). Yung ladder frame parang hinati sa tatlo tapos 1/3 lang ang kinabit sa front and another 1/3 sa rear :wink: Parang W123 (i think). But i agree, still not for our kind of offroading :D

**OTEP** · November 2nd, 2002 12:37 AM

pajerokid,

Ganun nga yung sa W123 ko dati (nakatambak sa probinsya kasi sinira ni lolo). Pero medyo limited talaga ang articulation niya. The subframe is only good for isolating road shock and not for anything else.

May spoilerettes pa sa harap ng bumper. I bet the first rock we encounter will take out those aero add ons.

**pajerokid** · November 2nd, 2002 01:28 AM

otep::: No offroader would appreciate the new Paj, sayang

Yung torque split nga 33/67 instead of 50/50 sa atin! Imagine having that dun sa lahar trip natin! Eh di lalo tayong nagka stuck stuck! Im getting off topic.....

but if i ever get to manage getting my slimy hands on a Malltero ok lang hehehe :D gagawin kong Hardcore offroader yung V44 ko hehhehe. :mrgreen:

**stormer** · November 2nd, 2002 06:35 AM

Plastic skid plate? I bet it's made from the same material such as those cheap hongkong toys. :lol: . But then again, any car, and I mean all cars are beautiful.... if it's free. Give me one too! :P

**mbt** · November 2nd, 2002 02:09 PM

diba ang sabi ay mas malaki ang suspension articulation ng gen3 paj for all four wheels compared to the gen2 paj?

also, overlander did an SUV tow test and really liked how the new monocoque Range Rover towed their 1800 kg camper...? the new RR is also still excellent off-road, they say... :?

so what's the verdict on IFS/IRS and unibody construction for venturing off-road?

**splerdu** · November 2nd, 2002 11:09 PM

we still have to wait for a true verdict on the new independent systems. the older ones didn't do well at all, kaya marami talagang purist na gusto live axles.

do you smell change in the air?

**Hell_racer** · November 3rd, 2002 11:51 AM

mbt,
did it mention y it is better than civic and sentra?
kasi pinagpipilian ng friend ko tong 3 eh, kayalang kasi loyal ako sa toyota kaya
ask ako 2nd opinion

otep,
muka namang pang porma lang! d nga pedeng pang off-roading! :mrgreen:
sa frontier nalang ako ni yo makikisakay!!! :lol:
pero same lang ba body size? nakak-intriga kasi eh

san ba galing tong gen3 pajero? japan parin ba? :?: