Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[CVT]

In the news tonight, the group is pulling out from DTI's move got an independent test

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[CVT]

In the news tonight, the group of alleged sua victims is withdrawing from DTI's engagement of an independent investigator and is instead appealing to the President to ban the Montero Sport vehicles.....

Wow!

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[dr. d]

In the news tonight, the group of alleged sua victims is withdrawing from DTI's engagement of an independent investigator and is instead appealing to the President to ban the Montero Sport vehicles.....

Wow!

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on what basis is this appeal, i wonder?

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DTI thus far has rejected ALL recommendations coming from foreign experts on what tests need to be conducted. Most of those who volunteered their units for DTI testing backed out when they realized that the testing that DTI has defined in its TOR (Terms of Reference) were going against the experts' recommendations. DTI has already acknowledged that they don't have the expertise to drive the testing process, but they still insist on rejecting third party recommendations that's presented to them.

Tapos? NO. The complaints are still on-going, but its likely that many of them will proceed with filing their cases in court or through other venues, instead of through DTI. Many of the complainants have already lost confidence in DTI doing this right. If they want to really manage this case properly, they will need to conduct SUA specific tests, which they have REJECTED from doing. Some of those who volunteered their units realized this, so they have decided to back-out on having their units used for DTI's testing

hehehe

Bernardino Bernardo: Glenn manikis, tama ka, simula pa Lang sa umpisa, aminado ang mga taga DTI na wala silang alam, kakayahan, at pasilidad para tuklasin ang SUA , so paano sila makagagawa ng TOR at conditions of contract, sila lang naman ng mitsubishi ang nag uusap, at Mitsubishi Lang ang may expertise,, kami mga victims na nagreklamo, sa umpisa pa lang ay itsa-pwera na

Glenn Manikis :Baka Mitsu gumawa para pabor sakanila maging result? Dapat independent party ang gagawa ng TOR.... Or-- ang gagawa-- DTI-complainants-respondents--

Glenn Manikis :Bernardino... Bakit hindi nyo oppose YuNg TOR... File a reconsideration... With dti... Or file an injunction with the proper courts.. Pag lumabas sa test na Walang SUA- moot and academic na yan case na file nyo...

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SGS is lone bidder on Montero’s ‘SUA’ probe
by Bernie Magkilat
March 22, 2016


Societe General de Surveillance (SGS) of Switzerland is the lone bidder for the third party laboratory that will investigate whether the various consumer complaints of sudden unintended acceleration (SUA) against Mitsubishi’s Montero Sport vehicle is true or not.

Trade and Industry Undersecretary Victorio Mario Dimagiba reported that only SGS, which was represented by its local office, was the lone bidder with a price offer of P8.916 million. Originally, there were eight interested inspection laboratories, two laboratories (SGS and TUV SUD of Germany) participated in the pre-bid conference, but it was only SGS that finally tendered a sealed bid.

SGS is a world leader in providing independent services in inspection, verification, testing and certification . Its core service activities cover industry sectors including automotive, industrial manufacturing, aviation, and construction. SGS has 1,800 offices worldwide. It used to handle the pre-shipment inspection scheme for the Bureau of Customs.

The next process is to conduct a post bid evaluation on the SGS offer whether it passes the technical and financial evaluation and lowest calculated bid. If It does, the awards and bid committee will issue a notice of award and signing of contract.

“If it is good, then it will be SGS,” Dimagiba said.

Once the SGS have passed the post bid evaluation, Dimagiba said, the awards and bid committee will proceed with the signing of contract on April 20, at the latest. The 5 selected Montero Sport vehicles of different situations will be shipped to the SGS facility in Korea for inspection.

It was agreed that Mitsubishi Motors Philippines Corp. will shoulder the cost of shipping the 5 vehicles. These vehicles are the following different situations: SUA but not been touched by MMPC; 2 vehicles that have undergone SUA and been repaired; a second hand vehicle with no SUA and; a repaired vehicle with SUA again.

SGS will conduct a full vehicle test in accordance with 4 standards on electromagnetic compatibility with two components on emission and immunity and, components test on radio disturbance and electrical disturbance.

“These tests should establish whether there is SUA and what causes the SUA,” Dimagiba said.

Results are expected after 45 days or mid June this year.

“If there is SUA, this will now lay the basis for product recall,” said Dimagiba but also hastened to add that a product recall is another process under the Consumer Act. This means a product recall cannot just happen right after the publication of the positive result.

If the result is negative, Dimagiba said that complainants have another option. He explained that the DTI investigation is proceeding on two tracks. The first is the third party investigation and the other is the consumer complaints.

This means, the second track can proceed on its course depending on the action of the complainants whether they will find redress under the Consumer Act or file a criminal case in court.


Read more at SGS is lone bidder on Montero’s ‘SUA’ probe | mb.com.ph | Philippine News

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Bernardino Bernardo
7 hrs

Out of eight players who showed interest in the investigation of Montero's SUA, only one submitted the bid, the SGS. Why did the others back out? We found out in our research that the Mitsubishi is a long time client of SGS.

Base on the above, here's my own analysis:

The seven interested players back out upon learning that they're not qualified when they read the bid documents. The SGS is the only one qualified. Is that possible? Yes it is, it's very possible,, the Terms Of Reference was tailor- made to fit to the SGS and it's the Mitsubishi who dictated the DTI everything that will be incorporated in the said TOR, for the DTI, admittedly, don't have the capacity, the know how and the facilities to conduct, much more supervise the process.

It's on the record, that during the December investigation, it's the Mitsubishi who requested the so called independent third party investigation cause they're afraid that if the DTI will do the right thing and do its mandate to investigate all the victims deeply one by one SUA will be established and the DTI will be forced to order a total recall to protect the consumers. That would be a total disaster to Mitsubishi, and so, this Moro Moro.

[niky]

Bernardino Bernardo
7 hrs

Out of eight players who showed interest in the investigation of Montero's SUA, only one submitted the bid, the SGS. Why did the others back out? We found out in our research that the Mitsubishi is a long time client of SGS.

Base on the above, here's my own analysis:

The seven interested players back out upon learning that they're not qualified when they read the bid documents. The SGS is the only one qualified. Is that possible? Yes it is, it's very possible,, the Terms Of Reference was tailor- made to fit to the SGS and it's the Mitsubishi who dictated the DTI everything that will be incorporated in the said TOR, for the DTI, admittedly, don't have the capacity, the know how and the facilities to conduct, much more supervise the process.

It's on the record, that during the December investigation, it's the Mitsubishi who requested the so called independent third party investigation cause they're afraid that if the DTI will do the right thing and do its mandate to investigate all the victims deeply one by one SUA will be established and the DTI will be forced to order a total recall to protect the consumers. That would be a total disaster to Mitsubishi, and so, this Moro Moro.

It is possible to purpose-build the bidding so that SGS would be the only "qualified" company, but I'd have to see the qualifications. SGS isn't the only game in town. I've worked with SGS, KPMG and Bureau Veritas for audit, and SGS, at least in my dealings with them, has been very professional and fair. I don't know what equipment they have to do the testing, however.

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In the end, the testing itself might prove fruitless, because the ones designing the test are the DTI, and not any actual expert on modern electronic control systems. I doubt SGS will find anything if they will be forced to follow the DTI's testing regimen.

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**YAWN**

[hpv]

Mga sir,automatic lang ba ang nagka SUA o pati din Manual?

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[agrimensor]

Mga sir,automatic lang ba ang nagka SUA o pati din Manual?

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Ours is manual.

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Why do they start sounding like a broken record... "Di ako naniwala na may SUA until..."

James Deakin
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I was sent this set of pictures last night. The description was: SUA today! With a description of how they didn't believe in the phenomenon at first until it happened to them. Now I'm not one to judge. But notice the slipper on the gas pedal? I'm sure it's just a coincidence. Unless that's what the 's' stands for.

[dr. d]

Why do they start sounding like a broken record... "Di ako naniwala na may SUA until..."

maybe they thought it less shameful and potentially more profitable, than to admit they made a mistake?
maybe they honestly believed it was truly SUA?
who knows...
heh heh.

[keithdb]

Baka madidiscount din nila kung di nila madispose agad.

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[hpv]

So both manual and matic nagka SUA?

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[cast_no_shadow]

IIRC sa automatic lang nangyayari yan alleged SUAs


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[hpv]

Yan din talaga duda ko eh,nasa mga matic ang problem. Plan to get mt kasi eh pero yong old model,di ko type ang bago.

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[cast_no_shadow]

Eh baon yung tsinelas sa accelerator FTW!


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[Monseratto]

SUA TODAY!
kala ko kwento lang ang SUA.... - Star Castor Untalan | Facebook

[Ry_Tower]

Another shame of post for palusot.com :rofl:

[niky]

The slipper doesn't actually prove anything about which pedal he was pressing. It may have fallen off while he was getting out.

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But: There's a very good reason you shouldn't drive in slippers. Because, as you can see from the picture, it can get caught on the pedals when you move your feet... making it harder to move between brake and accelerator.