Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[vvti2.0]

This is a good read:

IEEE Xplore Abstract - Intermittent Electrical Contact Resistance as a Contributory Factor in the Loss of Automobile Speed ...

[Luap]

This is a good read:

IEEE Xplore Abstract - Intermittent Electrical Contact Resistance as a Contributory Factor in the Loss of Automobile Speed ...

Good read sir. Thanks for sharing.

[niky]

None daw according to topgear ph, onli in da pilipins.

None that we know of. I actually wish we had easy access to that kind of data, but I'm pretty sure if it was widespread there, we'd see it on some of the Thai expat forums (I browse through them from time to time).

I wonder why people are so afraid of the Montero when they should be afraid of all vehicles irregardless of make or model. Any vehicle can go on a rampage when the circumstances call for it.

I'm scared ****less of all Monteros and Forts on the road. Many of their drivers drive like madmen. Tailgating at speed, weaving through traffic...

This is a good read:

IEEE Xplore Abstract - Intermittent Electrical Contact Resistance as a Contributory Factor in the Loss of Automobile Speed ...

Possible, but for cruise-control led SUA, as stated in the paper.

Cruise control isn't standard on the Monty, however, and modern electronic cruise control is brake-defeatable. Besides which, cruise control needs to be activated before it takes effect.

Besides, proven cases of Cruise-control led SUA were traced to switch malfunctions, rather than speed sensor malfunctions.

How about a faulty inhibitor switch? I can start the monty when the stick is on D but the indicator is blank, shake the shift a little and the indicator lights up. I can also do it the opposite way. While lighted, i move the stick a little and the indicator goes blank. Could this glitch coupled with developing a habit of not needing to step on the brake to change gears specially coming from park (for 2012 and older models), plus mistaking the fuel pedal as the brakes, contribute to it?

I've thought of that, myself, but the standard failure mode of the inhibitor switch is to drop the transmission in neutral, and the problem is not intermittent. It's pretty much terminal. Once the car heats up, the inhibitor switch malfunctions over and over again and requires cleaning and eventual replacement.

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Actually, former TGP editor Mike Black chimed in on FB. He has worked in the industry for a while, and he's actually seen electronic accelerator pedal failure, first hand.

Guess what the default failure mode is? Yup. Limp mode. The car simply won't move.

meron nga pero inutil naman ang DOST pati DTI, ang TESDA naman pagka alam ko wala silang hi-tech na machine to diagnose the computer box of modern cars. huh PAGASA? sila ba yung weather forecaster

I recall the story Ferman told me before about the DOST serving as witness to the Khaos Tubo-Charger testing before. Yeah... no.

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Personally, it's over-reaching to say there are no defects with the Montero. Montero owners here and in the clubs know there are defects. Hell, there's a laundry list of them easily searchable here on tsikot. But none of them will lead to SUA. As a former editor of mine, who owns an MS, notes: Some of them will actually cause the Montero to not move at all.

[first_light]

Paps, wag nyo icompare ang kung walang case sa ibang market ng montero, sa production, may binning lagi. Meron bin 1 for the highest, bin 2 for the mid and bin 3 for the lowest quality, lahat yan pasado sa production line, ang wala sa binning, reject bin yan.

Malay natin dahil typical sa market na least priority ang Philippines, nasa atin ang bin 3.

Siguro maganda rin na ilabas yung production trail or history ng mga MS na inirereklamo. Malalaman naman sa body number yan. Baka yan ang mga dumaan sa rework process. Pwede po ba MMPC?

[first_light]

This thread is very helpful especially sa mga nag-i-investigate ng kaso.
Most likely, they are also reading this forum and they get bits of pieces of ideas to help them in their investigation.
Wala na lang sigurong sasama ang loob. Iwas na lang pag may nag comment ng di maganda.
Also, iwasan na din ang mag comment na nakakasakit sa iba.

[minicarph]

This thread is very helpful especially sa mga nag-i-investigate ng kaso.
Most likely, they are also reading this forum and they get bits of pieces of ideas to help them in their investigation.
Wala na lang sigurong sasama ang loob. Iwas na lang pag may nag comment ng di maganda.
Also, iwasan na din ang mag comment na nakakasakit sa iba.

New Investigative question of the day

[jut703]

Just saw a report on the SUA issue on ANC. Hindi naman biased. The report showed interviews of engineers who suggested that the electronics of the car should be tested thoroughly and exhaustively by an independent third party. If they really can't pinpoint the cause to an electronic defect, then the only possible causes for SUA are driver error and physical entanglement of the pedals.

TV Patrol is another story of course, always sensationalized, with biased comments from the anchors.


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[dct]

Just saw a report on the SUA issue on ANC. Hindi naman biased. The report showed interviews of engineers who suggested that the electronics of the car should be tested thoroughly and exhaustively by an independent third party. If they really can't pinpoint the cause to an electronic defect, then the only possible causes for SUA are driver error and physical entanglement of the pedals.

TV Patrol is another story of course, always sensationalized, with biased comments from the anchors.


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I guess medyo nagmemellow na sila since sinabi kahapon ng mmpc na wala talagang problema at game sila na 3rd party ang magtest. Pero previous news talaga nila ipinipilit talaga e. May "expert" pa. Pati dzmm ganun rin

[Monseratto]

More in depth news report of MMPC's press briefing and analysis compared to Bias Network....

[kimbon]

More in depth news report of MMPC's press briefing and analysis compared to Bias Network....

given na yan pero kapag proven na human error nga biglang taas ang sales literally parang rocket yan.

OT - mga monti owners out there, don't sell your monti yet baka tumaas ang resale value pero kung di nga sa human error, "paktay" na ang resale value. bwahaha

[kimbon]

Just saw a report on the SUA issue on ANC. Hindi naman biased. The report showed interviews of engineers who suggested that the electronics of the car should be tested thoroughly and exhaustively by an independent third party. If they really can't pinpoint the cause to an electronic defect, then the only possible causes for SUA are driver error and physical entanglement of the pedals.

TV Patrol is another story of course, always sensationalized, with biased comments from the anchors.


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I'm about to say that. the burden of proof is in the complainants not to Mitsu. sana mayron tayong gov't agency ang mag- investigate as impartial to access the cause of sudden acceleration.

[glenn manikis]

I've been a supplier of Japanese companies in the Phils.. When it comes to quality and safety.. I may say they are no. 1... Or over acting na nga... Japanese ba talaga ang may hawak ng mga montero dito sa pinas? Or Thais?or Filipino?

[minicarph]

The posts of the today goes to Juts, sobrang audience na Lang ako today. I'm so impressed. This I like to read

[jut703]

Moderator's Note:

Just for transparency, we're keeping this thread up for people to post updates on the developments of the case.

Unfortunately, some people can't seem to act decently when it's the SUA issue that they're discussing. I will be deleting posts that reek of arrogance and flamebaiting, without warning.

If you can't post without bragging about the Montero or shredding it to bits, stay out of this thread. Repeat offenders will get suspended.

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[Ry_Tower]

Moderator's Note:

Just for transparency, we're keeping this thread up for people to post updates on the developments of the case.

Unfortunately, some people can't seem to act decently when it's the SUA issue that they're discussing. I will be deleting posts that reek of arrogance and flamebaiting, without warning.

If you can't post without bragging about the Montero or shredding it to bits, stay out of this thread. Repeat offenders will get suspended.

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Ah okay na din yan ser.

CNS alam ko ata definition niyan. hehehe. Si nelany ata nagpost.

BTT: Yan ang expert nang DTI, panis NHTSA at NASA dyan. :rofl:

[car_fan]

Agree, it's the SUA issue being discussed. If this happened to another brand/model then there would have been the same discussions.

[chronicle]

Agree, it's the SUA issue being discussed. If this happened to another brand/model then there would have been the same discussions.

What if the car maker is a chinesse brand? Im sure panay bash lang yan at walang magtatanggol.

Or how about if it is a kia or hyundai?

My point here, mitsu has some pretty loyal fans na talagang defend kung defend.

We need an actual automotive engineer to fully digest the issue to avoid biases.

[car_fan]

What if the car maker is a chinesse brand? Im sure panay bash lang yan at walang magtatanggol.

Or how about if it is a kia or hyundai?

My point here, mitsu has some pretty loyal fans na talagang defend kung defend.

We need an actual automotive engineer to fully digest the issue to avoid biases.

Please read my previous comment carefully. 😁

[chronicle]

Please read my previous comment carefully. 😁

Nope sir. I am not targeting you or your comments. I am just backing up your post.

Easy lang.

[car_fan]

Nope sir. I am not targeting you or your comments. I am just backing up your post.

Easy lang.

Thanks for clarifying.