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    #81
    Sa gen 1-2.5, intended acceleration lang yan.
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    aha, sabi ko na nga may sudden acceleration issue ang mga pajero ............


    ........ masyadong mabilis mag accelerate ang mga may-ari

    :hysterical:

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    #83
    I guess Mitsubishi's reputation for making shoddy cars is still true...

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    #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Autobeat View Post
    Another reported montero sudden acceleration as reported and shared by it's owner to the blogger. This is case no. 4 in that blog.

    Source: Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accident
    That one's easy enough.

    The dad parked it in gear. Left it in gear when he started it. And it really did accelerate by itself down the hill.

    Most modern ECT diesels have anti-stall programming. If the engine speed goes below idle, it will open the throttle to raise the engine speed. On some of these cars, you can slot them into gear, let off the clutch slowly, and let the car accelerate forward by itself. The computer won't let the engine die.

    So, he turns the ignition key, the engine starts, the computer notices it starting to stall, because it's in gear, and blips the throttle... the thing starts moving forward...

    As to why the engine raced, I don't know... it's STILL possible THIS dad was hitting the gas pedal by mistake.

    If he wasn't, I can theorize that once the vehicle started, and the engine started to stall, the computer opened the throttle a little bit. Then, since it was at low rpms and lugging... opened it a little bit more, then more... then held it where it was... which would be a real electronic issue.

    And still... you would have to be, incorrectly, in-gear when starting the car. It's supposed to be impossible to start it this way... and it's not possible for the vehicle to do this on its own, since it cannot shift itself, like an automatic can! It requires someone to physically put it in gear...

    So there's something missing from this story...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #85
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    hintay lang tayo at baka biglang magkaroon ng sudden acceleration issue ang mga pajeros gens 1989 - 2011

    nyahahahaha :rofl01: :hysterical:
    lols! never had that experience with my MS.... pero baka nataranta yun driver then nung bumangga na sa benz eh humiga na lang....

    I experienced a sudden acceleration sa gen 2 nung na rear-end ako ng jeep. luckily nailipat ko kagad sa N....

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    That one's easy enough.

    The dad parked it in gear. Left it in gear when he started it. And it really did accelerate by itself down the hill.

    Most modern ECT diesels have anti-stall programming. If the engine speed goes below idle, it will open the throttle to raise the engine speed. On some of these cars, you can slot them into gear, let off the clutch slowly, and let the car accelerate forward by itself. The computer won't let the engine die.

    So, he turns the ignition key, the engine starts, the computer notices it starting to stall, because it's in gear, and blips the throttle... the thing starts moving forward...

    As to why the engine raced, I don't know... it's STILL possible THIS dad was hitting the gas pedal by mistake.

    If he wasn't, I can theorize that once the vehicle started, and the engine started to stall, the computer opened the throttle a little bit. Then, since it was at low rpms and lugging... opened it a little bit more, then more... then held it where it was... which would be a real electronic issue.

    And still... you would have to be, incorrectly, in-gear when starting the car. It's supposed to be impossible to start it this way... and it's not possible for the vehicle to do this on its own, since it cannot shift itself, like an automatic can! It requires someone to physically put it in gear...

    So there's something missing from this story...
    now, this is a sensible explanation/theory

    like what i said, the jury is still out on the "sudden acceleration" issue

    :thumbup:

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    #87
    bakit sa Strada walang issue na ganito

    ibig bang sabihin pang Macho lang talaga naka Strada puro tayo lang naka Monty ang pang LOLO na at nakakalimutan pa mag drive ng tama hahaha

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    #88
    Quote Originally Posted by don View Post
    bakit sa Strada walang issue na ganito

    ibig bang sabihin pang Macho lang talaga naka Strada puro tayo lang naka Monty ang pang LOLO na at nakakalimutan pa mag drive ng tama hahaha
    aha, aminin nyo na at baka hindi gawang mitsubishi ang strada.

    ang manufacturer nito ata ay "bleep", "bleep bleep" at "bleep bleep bleep"

    nyahahahaha :hysterical:

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    #89
    the sudden acceleration can be prevented if the driver depressed the clutch pedal and disengaged the gear. maybe there's other reason behind that accident. mmm.... just wondering how's the brake system not working.

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    #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    I guess Mitsubishi's reputation for making shoddy cars is still true...
    Hindi naman siguro sir, mukhang yung mga incident naman eh "human error". Mitsubishi is just polite not to point the error to the human behind the wheel.

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    #91
    . in most modern cars today if the car is A/T you cannot start the engine unless the gear is in neutral or park postion. and you wont be able to change the gear if you are not stepping on the brakes from P to R then N to D yan ang mga safety features ng car today . sometimes kung sanay ka sa A/T then gumamit ka nang manual bigla it is very easy to loose your sense of footing . i hope human error nga lang since car defect yan pwedeng mangyari satin lahat .

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    #92
    Quote Originally Posted by painkiller View Post
    . in most modern cars today if the car is A/T you cannot start the engine unless the gear is in neutral or park postion. and you wont be able to change the gear if you are not stepping on the brakes from P to R then N to D yan ang mga safety features ng car today . sometimes kung sanay ka sa A/T then gumamit ka nang manual bigla it is very easy to loose your sense of footing . i hope human error nga lang since car defect yan pwedeng mangyari satin lahat .
    Kaso parang 4 pa lang yung report at sa dami ng nabiling MS at strada na same engie tranny system, malamang talaga ay human error yan or maybe a lemon unit but definitely not a major problem IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by painkiller View Post
    . in most modern cars today if the car is A/T you cannot start the engine unless the gear is in neutral or park postion. and you wont be able to change the gear if you are not stepping on the brakes from P to R then N to D yan ang mga safety features ng car today . sometimes kung sanay ka sa A/T then gumamit ka nang manual bigla it is very easy to loose your sense of footing . i hope human error nga lang since car defect yan pwedeng mangyari satin lahat .
    Kaso parang 4 pa lang yung report at sa dami ng nabiling MS at strada na same engie tranny system, malamang talaga ay human error yan or maybe a lemon unit but definitely not a major problem IMHO.
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    #94
    fyi: in MS invecs II you can shift it into D from P without stepping on the brake as long as you are pressing the button on the shiftknob.
    that's their design but it really depends on the driver, like me i always step on the break first coz i used to drive on a car with a/t features like what you posted.

    Quote Originally Posted by painkiller View Post
    . in most modern cars today if the car is A/T you cannot start the engine unless the gear is in neutral or park postion. and you wont be able to change the gear if you are not stepping on the brakes from P to R then N to D yan ang mga safety features ng car today . sometimes kung sanay ka sa A/T then gumamit ka nang manual bigla it is very easy to loose your sense of footing . i hope human error nga lang since car defect yan pwedeng mangyari satin lahat .

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    #95
    Quote Originally Posted by gundam View Post
    fyi: in MS invecs II you can shift it into D from P without stepping on the brake as long as you are pressing the button on the shiftknob.
    that's their design but it really depends on the driver, like me i always step on the break first coz i used to drive on a car with a/t features like what you posted.
    That is true, but the engine will not start if the lever is in N.
    There is also a reason why all new vehicles comes with a hand brake.
    If the driver doesn't know the use of these safety gadgets , then he is not qualified to drive.
    So don't let him drive. In western countries, during driving test, there is a demerit for improper or failure to use the hand brake when necessary.

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    #96
    car owners should always take the time and patience to read the owner's manual to avoid accidents due to unfamiliarity with their vehicles especially the transmission system


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    #97
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    That is true, but the engine will not start if the lever is in N.
    There is also a reason why all new vehicles comes with a hand brake.
    If the driver doesn't know the use of these safety gadgets , then he is not qualified to drive.
    So don't let him drive. In western countries, during driving test, there is a demerit for improper or failure to use the hand brake when necessary.
    it will start if lever is in N. it will not start if in gear like D or R.

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    #98
    Quote Originally Posted by gundam View Post
    it will start if lever is in N. it will not start if in gear like D or R.
    You are right, thanks for the correction.

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    #99
    Nai-experienced ko po ang nagsabay yung brake at gas pedal sa GTV ko nung pinalitan ko ng sport pedal kasi pagkalagay about an inch lang ang difference ng both pedal kaya pagapak mo ng brake nakakasaby din ang gas pedal at nag ha-high revs buti na lang naka park na ang tranny ko, it was happen many times during parking before stop engine. Kaya mga kasamang monti owners check nu mga pedals at kung maaari paglayuin mabuti. At huwag gumamit ng malapad na shoes during driving.

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    #100
    ganyan din sa saudi pag kumuha ka ng lisensya kahit anong galing mo mag drive pag nakalimutan mo i hand brake pag baba mo bagsak ka sa result.

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