Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[car_fan]

^hahaha this i agree on

love the end of tv patrol when these clowns deliver their jokes

Taka nga ako pano nating naging VP yun. Lol

[elkabong]

Yung ibang Montero owners parang in the stage of denial pa , come-on guys maybe there is really a problem we don't really know, instead of blaming the driver and the floor mat sana suportahan natin yung kapwa montero owner na nakaranas ng similar accident. Ayaw naman nating sa atin magyari ito para maniwala tayo. Bow

[kisshmet]

Taka nga ako pano nating naging VP yun. Lol

probably because of glorys connection with garci then

[Rhyderz]

Spot on Vernon!

http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/motor...d-acceleration


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from my point of view:

Topgear really put up a good statement. Common sense nga naman, sa 'Pinas lang? Actually madaming paraan para labanan o maiwasan ang kini-claim nilang SUA. Pwede mo naman sigurong apakan ang brake pag feeling mo na-suSUA ka na noh? or handbrakes..or better yet, kayang-kaya mo naman sigurong ilagay s Neutral without pressing the brakes. or kung meron kang tinatawag na presence of mind, "ignition off."

I think more on psychological aspect na lang talaga ang claimed SUA ng Montero. Doon na lang isisi ang driver error. From park to drive eh talaga namang aandar sasakyan ntin lalo na pag nsa flat plane or descending position. Please be reminded na mabigat ang minamahal nating sasakyan. Pati Manibela eh medyo nakakamuscle dahil sa lapad ng gulong.

I owned Montero 2015 glx A/T model, narinig ko na yang SUA na yan prior to buying it. Di naman ako nadiscourage, first car ko pa nga to in fact! Let's not go into claiming me SUA ang montero natin. Bagkus, pwede nating i-debunked ang myth na yan. Remember, tayo at hindi sila ang nakasakay sa sasakyan natin. Hindi naman sa pinagtatanggol natin ang Mitsu pero di rin masama na ayusin ang pagmamaneho.

[Juan Martinez]

if incidents like these are really happening in our midst, it is good that some media outfits, notwithstanding their motivation in so doing, are making it public. car makers should be fortright. they shouldn't take this issue as merely driver's fault but conduct their own independent investigation to get to the bottom of it if they also have in mind the welfare of the buying public.

[car_fan]

if incidents like these are really happening in our midst, it is good that some media outfits, notwithstanding their motivation in so doing, are making it public. car makers should be fortright. they shouldn't take this issue as merely driver's fault but conduct its own independent investigation to get to the bottom of it if they also have in mind the welfare of the buying public.

Yun ang dapat, kaso matigas ang mga car manufacturers. Daming perang involved kasi. Pati reputation nakataya. Sigurado meron talagang false claims ng SUA, maganda maprove nila yun without a doubt nang matapos na ang kalbaryo nila. Madali lang naman din kasing sabihin na driver error, pero sna may may proof para madali din matanggap ng nagkamali. Para kasi ang dating sa mga nagrereklamo is "tanga ka kaya ka nabagga".

[car_fan]

That's the sad part. Our Govt system is not mature enough to handle such cases. We as a country for that matter, is not mature enough. That is why we are called "third world". Kasalanan ni Gloria at PNoy! 😁

[CVT]

Etong isang to nakatigil na nag inusok pa.

In the first video of the white Montero, I did not notice that any of the three brake lights turned on.... When he was backing up and when put the ride on drive and surged forward.....Has anyone seen otherwise?

Profound....

I personally knew of a similar incident,- this time with an office colleague in a Jazz... In a parking lot,- Reverse wham; almost immediately, forward wham... Very unfortunate...

[car_fan]

In the first video of the white Montero, I did not notice that any of the three brake lights turned on.... When he was backing up and when put the ride on drive and surged forward.....Has anyone seen otherwise?



Profound....

That's true. That is why it's hard to prove SUA, because there will definitely be cases of driver error. So the best thing for Mitsu to do is to provide concrete evidence of just one SUA claim as a farce. Rather than just outright saying that all these cases are driver error without providing any proof. This video can be a starting point fir them.

[iceblueyes]

In the first video of the white Montero, I did not notice that any of the three brake lights turned on.... When he was backing up and when put the ride on drive and surged forward.....Has anyone seen otherwise?

Profound....

Also noticed that but I can accept that something may be up with the electronics handling it.
What I am trying to find is why/how did it go to Drive from Reverse. Cause what I normally expect when that happens is you would just try your best to just stop it, brake, turn off the engine, hand brake etc... And you can see when it first hit at the back it kinda stopped then bigla na lang nag forward.

So was it the driver or was the stick still in reverse and it just went forward?

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In the first video of the white Montero, I did not notice that any of the three brake lights turned on.... When he was backing up and when put the ride on drive and surged forward.....Has anyone seen otherwise?

Profound....

Also noticed that but I can accept that something may be up with the electronics handling it.
What I am trying to find is why/how did it go to Drive from Reverse. Cause what I normally expect when that happens is you would just try your best to just stop it, brake, turn off the engine, hand brake etc... And you can see when it first hit at the back it kinda stopped then bigla na lang nag forward.

So was it the driver or was the stick still in reverse and it just went forward?

[valskie01]

In the first video of the white Montero, I did not notice that any of the three brake lights turned on.... When he was backing up and when put the ride on drive and surged forward.....Has anyone seen otherwise?

Profound....

I personally knew of a similar incident,- this time with an office colleague in a Jazz... In a parking lot,- Reverse wham; almost immediately, forward wham... Very unfortunate...

Oo nga. Para hindi nakaapak sa brake yung driver. Pano ba sila mag drive ng a/t?. When backing up kasi sa a/t hindi mo naman kailangan apakan ang accelerator. Kunting bitaw lang sa brake pedal kusang mag roroll na ang car. Kaya nga dapat alalay ang foot sa brake pedal lagi.

[CVT]

Pero kung human error yan ang damit engot haha
Yan masasabi ko.
Balik tayo sa fact na PH models lang ano yun sinabotahe tayo? Haha

Aray bro...

Back to the white Montero in the abscbn video... That could be a huge mistake on the driver as the video was telling us his story....

I am troubled because he was still adamant about his side in that particular incident.

Not to take away any single bit from those who experienced it, but my simple mind and limited experience wonder if this could this be (offensively) culture-related ???

Again, still praying for the best for everyone....

[CVT]

Also noticed that but I can accept that something may be up with the electronics handling it.
What I am trying to find is why/how did it go to Drive from Reverse. Cause what I normally expect when that happens is you would just try your best to just stop it, brake, turn off the engine, hand brake etc... And you can see when it first hit at the back it kinda stopped then bigla na lang nag forward.

So was it the driver or was the stick still in reverse and it just went forward?

Bro your last statement got me thinking deeply.... Because at that point he could have turned off the engine and went out, but he did not... I am trying to figure out the odds of that thing happening...

However, again my office colleague in a similar incident but in a different make and model of vehicle did exactly like that instantaneously....

[car_fan]

I dont know, wala naman ako doon sa scene 😁. Like I said, sigurado ako na may false claims and this coild be one of it. Kung ako kay mitsu mag focus ako maprove beyond reasonable doubt etong specific case na to. If they do then madali na ma associate ang SUA sa driver error (maski may totoong SUA 😈)

Just a thought, independent ba talaga ang brakes sa ecm for those units that have ABS, EBD and stability control?

[Ry_Tower]

I dont know, wala naman ako doon sa scene 😁. Like I said, sigurado ako na may false claims and this coild be one of it. Kung ako kay mitsu mag focus ako maprove beyond reasonable doubt etong specific case na to. If they do then madali na ma associate ang SUA sa driver error (maski may totoong SUA 😈)

Just a thought, independent ba talaga ang brakes sa ecm for those units that have ABS, EBD and stability control?

Burden of proof po ay sa nag-aakusa. kaya kung wala or hindi mapatunayan nang nag-cla-claim nang SUA na nangyayari nga yun sa kotse niya. Nganga siya. The law will favor MMC and that is legal, factual and just.

Imagine kasi kung gaano lang kadali magsabi nang mali sa isang product without evidence beyond reasonable doubt.

[car_fan]

Burden of proof po ay sa nag-aakusa. kaya kung wala or hindi mapatunayan nang nag-cla-claim nang SUA na nangyayari nga yun sa kotse niya. Nganga siya. The law will favor MMC and that is legal, factual and just.



Imagine kasi kung gaano lang kadali magsabi nang mali sa isang product without evidence beyond reasonable doubt.

That is correct kaya mahirap talaga ma prove sa court etong kaso na to.

[gundam]

Burden of proof po ay sa nag-aakusa. kaya kung wala or hindi mapatunayan nang nag-cla-claim nang SUA na nangyayari nga yun sa kotse niya. Nganga siya. The law will favor MMC and that is legal, factual and just.

Imagine kasi kung gaano lang kadali magsabi nang mali sa isang product without evidence beyond reasonable doubt.

Bro agree. Lets just wait for the lawyers here kung anong quantum of evidence needed dito, this might only be a civil case. Not sure.

Pero kung yang mga SUA drivers na yan pag sablay mga evidence nyan at pointing fingers lang to escape liability. Kung ako MMPC, counterclaim ko yan ng ciminal case. Hehehe yun ay kung pwede..[emoji16]

[fireice2]

Bro agree. Lets just wait for the lawyers here kung anong quantum of evidence needed dito, this might only be a civil case. Not sure.

Pero kung yang mga SUA drivers na yan pag sablay mga evidence nyan at pointing fingers lang to escape liability. Kung ako MMPC, counterclaim ko yan ng ciminal case. Hehehe yun ay kung pwede..[emoji16]

Civil case lang naman ito kung ano man. Preponderance of Evidence lang kailangan. Di mo naman pwede gawing reckless imprudence resulting to damage to property or physical injuries. Sino respondent/accused mo? Ang corporate officers ng MMPH? Designers? Engineers?

Kaso in Civil cases, the claimant must prove their allegations and present evidence to support their claim. Burden of proof does not belong to defendants in civil cases.

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Bro agree. Lets just wait for the lawyers here kung anong quantum of evidence needed dito, this might only be a civil case. Not sure.

Pero kung yang mga SUA drivers na yan pag sablay mga evidence nyan at pointing fingers lang to escape liability. Kung ako MMPC, counterclaim ko yan ng ciminal case. Hehehe yun ay kung pwede..[emoji16]

Civil case lang naman ito kung ano man. Preponderance of Evidence lang kailangan. Di mo naman pwede gawing reckless imprudence resulting to damage to property or physical injuries. Sino respondent/accused mo? Ang corporate officers ng MMPH? Designers? Engineers?

Kaso in Civil cases, the claimant must prove their allegations and present evidence to support their claim. Burden of proof does not belong to defendants in civil cases.

[car_fan]

Is it true that in certain situations, pinapakialamanan ni ecm ang brakes to activate abs, ebd and stability control? 😈

[rene_tagle]

yung iba dito kung maka-husga ng BOBO, TANGA, AT ENGOT sa mga driver ng mga SUA victims dito kala mo kegagaling at mga expert, palibhasa babagsak nanaman RESALE value ng mga mitsubishi car nila lalo na montero. natrauma na nga lalo pa tinatapakan, 97 cases at puro montero lang ang reported na sasakyan, nakakatakot pala bumili ng montero at nakaka-bob0, tanga at engot pala tong sasakyan na to. tulungan nyo na lang malaman ang totoo at wag na magsalita ng di maganda.