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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Meron talagang tao na hindi nakaka intindi ata ng safety....

    Safety should always comes first...

    No amount of experienced nor talent should overcome safety....

    Hindi purkit magaling na AKO sumingit sa kalsada eh puro singit na ang Gagawin Ko...
    Hindi purkit magaling ako mag drive, eh kas kas dito kas kas dun...
    Hindi purkit-- NASA subd. Ka Lang, mabagal Lang naman ang takbo mo, hindi ka na mag seatbelt...
    Hindi purkit-- magaling ka matalino-- may technique, eh gagamitin mo na ang left foot mo for braking...

    Magaling ba yan o mayabang?

    Ganun Lang ka simple Lang yan...

    Madami talagang tao-- ang magagaling at Sobrang talino--

    Akala nila magaling sila--- Pero paano naging magaling ang Isang tao kung--- if they are the one's who also endanger the lives of fellow motorist...

    Why not drive SAFELY?

    magaling ba o mayabang ang tawag dun?
    Cite me the studies you all seem to know of which shows that the technique I normally use is "more dangerous" for someone like me.
    Give me the figures, which show that people who used this technique as norm, are involved in more accidents. <- Maybe a moot point since you can also see the figures of people who are involved in the same types accidents who drive in your/normal way.

    AGAIN, the normality of using the technique for that person is key here, I am not asking YOU, who is unable to do it, to use the technique. That is dangerous for YOU and everyone around, that I can agree on.

    PM mo na lang if you don't want to derail the topic. Or leave it here to educate everyone idc.

    *car fan

    Don't bother na, I recant my previous statement. The inability accept a difference in opinion, the subtle(or not) shaming, repetitive arguments w/o factual/logical backing. its borderline and childish, the irony is not lost to me


    At topic

    My reason for my skepticism I do not know, or know anyone, who has either 1st hand experience OR know anyone else on a sensible degree to which it happened to.

    Does that invalidate the claims? of course not.

    What does it for me is the eerily similar statements made by the victims circulating social media, eerily similar in a way that iba yung sasakyan sa pic iba yung driver pero yung sinabi niya parang copy paste lang ng na una; PLUS the fact that its isolated in one particular model on our particular country.

    Does that invalidate the claims? again, no. But to convince me otherwise there must be more information about this other than the statements made by the victims.

    I am not saying that it is definitely driver error but I am not accepting that it is definitely defects.

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    Ayan nag palabas na uli abs cbn, may cctv footage, umaatras si montero bigla unarangkada, then pagka bangga, bigla naman unandar pa abante, tapos bumangga uli medyo napaisip ako dun ah

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadenbanas View Post
    Ayan nag palabas na uli abs cbn, may cctv footage, umaatras si montero bigla unarangkada, then pagka bangga, bigla naman unandar pa abante, tapos bumangga uli medyo napaisip ako dun ah
    may youtube link ba nyan?

    btw, tumingin ako ng second hand montero AT sa OLX, parang di naman masyadong nagmura. Bili ako ng 2012 model, pwede na kaya 100k ang asking price. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadenbanas View Post
    Ayan nag palabas na uli abs cbn, may cctv footage, umaatras si montero bigla unarangkada, then pagka bangga, bigla naman unandar pa abante, tapos bumangga uli medyo napaisip ako dun ah
    may youtube link ba nyan?

    btw, tumingin ako ng second hand montero AT sa OLX, parang di naman masyadong nagmura. Bili ako ng 2012 model, pwede na kaya 100k ang asking price. LOL

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    Ngayon naniniwala Na Ako na HUMAN error NGa yan SUA na Yan..!!!

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    May galit ba ang abscbn sa Mitsubishi? Araw araw na lang kasi nasa news ang montero sua

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmb333 View Post
    May galit ba ang abscbn sa Mitsubishi? Araw araw na lang kasi nasa news ang montero sua
    We have to assume that they are looking after the public's interest as the reason for not letting up on this issue. It's a safety concern after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timo07 View Post
    We have to assume that they are looking after the public's interest as the reason for not letting up on this issue. It's a safety concern after all.
    hmmm... The way Noli of ABS CBN does his commentary, pilit nyang di-demonize ang mitsubishi, pilit nyang kinakabit na ito daw ang dahilan bakit pinili ni PNOY pumunta sa plant opening kesa sunduin ang SAF44 sa Villamor. Tsk..tsk.... How thick can you get? I doubt Mitsubishi twisted PNOYs hand in not going to Villamor airbase... In all the interviews, me kasalanan ang sasakyan, I mean just tonight there was a video of a Monty going back and forth hitting vehicles, but ganon talaga yun, you put it in reverse and floor it, it goes backward hard, hinde naman aabante yun pag hinde dinala sa Drive, so the driver obviously put it in D mode and floored it. I shifter didnt put itself in drive or reverse by itself. Yoko lang magsalita pero me frst hand experience kami sa "Kabayad" moves nyan.

    Now that politics and Media hype is in the mix, well its going to be a full blown circus....

    After all thats said and done, after the DTI, congress, media, at the end of the day, Mitsubishi is going to hold its ground by saying driver error... why? They are the experts, no way DTI is going to say were technically better than you in automotive investigation, so with the politicians and the media... It's gooing to stick. Just look how adamantly Binay denies he owns a hacienda, I mean all the signals and signs are there but since there is no single evidence that links him.... nothing happened. And since no smoking gun points to mitsubishi.... No one will claim they know more than the experts.

    Oh BTW I still believe it driver error. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by petixs View Post
    Yoko lang magsalita pero me frst hand experience kami sa "Kabayad" moves nyan.
    Heard of such rumors. Careful bro, mahirap yang issue na yan.

    Alvin and Doris and Ted and the others are not letting up on the issue. Does that mean, they are also involved in such "shenanigans."

    OT lang, but I'm happy their not letting up on the tanim bala issue which Pinoy is branding as being sensationalized. Wala na cgurong "sensation" ang presidente natin.

    BTT. Sorry po...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmb333 View Post
    May galit ba ang abscbn sa Mitsubishi? Araw araw na lang kasi nasa news ang montero sua
    Pare pareho lang naman pinapalabas araw araw. Naghihintay lang ng pera yan sa mitsubishi. Kaya i really hate the media. Pinipili nila ang ipapalabas. Kaya rin naman mabango ang pangalan ni cory aquino at abnoy dahil sa media e

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmb333 View Post
    May galit ba ang abscbn sa Mitsubishi? Araw araw na lang kasi nasa news ang montero sua

    Maybe some car brand is furious and throwing tantrums for not being given enough time to introduce their product into the market. Like for example, Mux, Mux at least enjoyed a year of no new competition

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Maybe some car brand is furious and throwing tantrums for not being given enough time to introduce their product into the market. Like for example, Mux, Mux at least enjoyed a year of no new competition
    Mux 4x4 at 2.5 naka 50,000 discount na

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    #12
    For the past few days, I get paranoid whenever a Monty is behind me. [emoji16]

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    #13
    Have a colleague who drives an AT Montero. Surprisingly, she is not aware of this issue. Because of her dedication to her work, she probably does not have time to watch the news[emoji15]. She said that she cannot change from P to D unless she is depressing the brake. Similar to my Toyota, this appears to be a safety feature that should prevent the theory of human mistake in some of these SUA cases. There's probably some truth to some of the cases. Also, during her last PM, she had a sticker/reminder from the Casa to "always depress the brake when changing from P to D" or something like that. I will confirm exactly what was written in the sticker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timo07 View Post
    Have a colleague who drives an AT Montero. Surprisingly, she is not aware of this issue. Because of her dedication to her work, she probably does not have time to watch the news[emoji15]. She said that she cannot change from P to D unless she is depressing the brake. Similar to my Toyota, this appears to be a safety feature that should prevent the theory of human mistake in some of these SUA cases. There's probably some truth to some of the cases. Also, during her last PM, she had a sticker/reminder from the Casa to "always depress the brake when changing from P to D" or something like that. I will confirm exactly what was written in the sticker.
    Early montero nga kasi wala yang safety feature na yan.2012 na nga nalagay as per monseratto. Ask mo officemate mo kung ano year model just to confirm.

    Tingin ko ito talaga problem eh.

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    Last edited by Ry_Tower; November 25th, 2015 at 11:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Early montero nga kasi wala yang safety feature na yan.2012 na nga nalagay as per monseratto. Ask mo officemate mo kung ano year model just to confirm.

    Tingin ko ito talaga problem eh.

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    Oh Okay... My colleague got her Monty late last year..

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    #16
    Complicated for the whole SUA issue, not your story alone. Yeah, let's move on...[emoji6]

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    Napansin ko sa CCTV footage ng ABS CBN kanina parang di naman nag brake yung driver. Parang di umilaw brake light.
    Pero kataka taka bakit sa Pinas lang merong ganyan na case

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaggerx3 View Post
    Napansin ko sa CCTV footage ng ABS CBN kanina parang di naman nag brake yung driver. Parang di umilaw brake light.
    Pero kataka taka bakit sa Pinas lang merong ganyan na case
    Hindi naman iilaw ang brake light, pag nag accelerate

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaggerx3 View Post
    Napansin ko sa CCTV footage ng ABS CBN kanina parang di naman nag brake yung driver. Parang di umilaw brake light.
    Pero kataka taka bakit sa Pinas lang merong ganyan na case
    Hehehe. Hindi ka naintindihan ni OB kay ganyan sagot niya sa post mo. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaggerx3 View Post
    Napansin ko sa CCTV footage ng ABS CBN kanina parang di naman nag brake yung driver. Parang di umilaw brake light.
    Pero kataka taka bakit sa Pinas lang merong ganyan na case

    pwede mangyari yan sir kasi nga computer error yan, parang PC lang yan kapag nagloko or nagha-hang, kahit ano click mo sa mga apps di gagana, pati HDD light indicator di umiilaw. tsaka impossible na magshift pa sa drive yung driver sa ganyang sitwasyon, instinct agad nyan tapakan yung brake or itaas ang handbrake ng montero nya, kung naisip naman nya na ishift sa PARk dapat pataas at hindi pababa papuntang DRIVE kasi nga nasa REVERSE sya. yung starex namin dati kahit hindi inaapakan yung brake naka ilaw pa din yung brakelight, dinala namin sa casa nireset lang daw yung ECU ayun ok na ulit.

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