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    Quote Originally Posted by outbite View Post
    Kung puro montero kahit driver error - that means may flaw sa design di ba? Kung may flaw sa design why can't MS just go and solve it to stop accidents? if monteros are risking peoples lives - gaano kahirap ba isolve yun? They made so much money with the sales of Monteros in the Philippines.
    sakto brader! ang hindi ko maintindihan bakit yung ilang montero owner todo depensa.

    basta yung MT hindi apektado ng SUA driver error man yan o hindi

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    Quote Originally Posted by outbite View Post
    Kung puro montero kahit driver error - that means may flaw sa design di ba? Kung may flaw sa design why can't MS just go and solve it to stop accidents? if monteros are risking peoples lives - gaano kahirap ba isolve yun? They made so much money with the sales of Monteros in the Philippines.
    It depends on what the flaw is.

    If it's an electronic or mechanical flaw, then yes, they have to do the recall.

    If it's driver error. No. There are thousands of drivers who have no problems driving the MS.

    If it's floor mat entanglement, as they claim in some cases, then there is the possibility of a class action suit if it's proven Mitsubishi knew about the danger of mat entanglement and did nothing to warn the dealers or stop the dealers from offering free floor mats that were out of spec.

    If it's floor mat entanglement by mats that customers themselves installed, there is limited liability for Mitsubishi if it's proven that they did not warn customers sufficiently against installing heavy aftermarket floor mats.

    (pics of a new SUA case)

    (Do you see what I see, heavily folded and rumpled in the passenger footwell?)



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    What's really needed is for the DTI to call in experts for forensic investigation. All they did was accept Mitsubishi's own conclusions on the case. At the very least, an audit of the findings and a recommended plan of action would go a long way to laying the case to rest, whether for or against Mitsubishi.
    Last edited by niky; November 25th, 2015 at 04:37 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Question, is it possible for rust to form on the fuel on injectors due to poor/questionable fuel quality thus leaving it in an "on" position delivering fuel to the engine?

    It was just a random thought I had as the Montero tends to encounter CEL issues due to rust formation in the fuel system? Our had rust formation on the fuel neck, others I personally know had rusting inside the tank. Is it possible for rust to form after the fuel filter?

    I am just asking as this issue is of course a valid concern. I lean more towards driver error more than anything else, but that 1% chance that it could be happening is of course still a concern.

    To add as well, the pedal positioning of the Montero (brake pedal and accelarator) is on the close side but not too close that would make it indistinguishable though. Some fringe cases are likely to be incorrect pedal application because they are personally not used to such clearances if you ask me. If you compare pedal position of the Fortuner vs Montero, the Fortuner is more distinct while the gap between the brake and accelator of the Montero is about 2" only where my foot can only slide almost halfway while still being on the accelerator pedal and it is already hitting the side of the brake pedal.

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    Kung sa AT yan lang nangyayari. Posible may mali sa design pero hindi pwd tangalin ang driver error.. except na lang siguro kung banga na nag rerev parin si MS. Sa 97 sana may isa man lang naka dashcam. Para marinig at makita natin nangyari,

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    Kahit na moot and academic, I will still greatly affect the All new MONTORO's sales... Naka tatak na yan sa Ibang consumers...

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    Kahit na moot and academic, I will still greatly affect the All new MONTORO's sales... Naka tatak na yan sa Ibang consumers...
    affect... yes. probably.
    greatly affect.. i don't think so. it looks so menacingly good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
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    affect... yes. probably.
    greatly affect.. i don't think so. it looks so menacingly good...
    Malaman natin... Total sales ng monty this coming 1st quarter of 2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Malaman natin... Total sales ng monty this coming 1st quarter of 2016
    if they offer real huge discounts to fan their sales bragging rights... who knows...
    i might even be persuaded to cross over.. SUA my gluteus...!
    Last edited by dr. d; November 25th, 2015 at 01:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
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    if they offer real huge discounts to fan their sales bragging rights... who knows...
    i might even be persuaded to cross over.. SUA my gluteus...!
    Well actually ako din.... BastA malaki discount, Tapos lalagyan ko ng Steel bumper na 6Mm ang Kapal Tapos parang may sungay.. Para MONTORO na tAlaga ang dating... He he...

    Serious ako kukuha talaga ako pag malaki discount...Gawin ko talagang MONTORO!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Kahit na moot and academic, I will still greatly affect the All new MONTORO's sales... Naka tatak na yan sa Ibang consumers...
    Pati narin 2nd hand market ng montero. Baka bababa resell value nito. Ito ang concern ng ibang montero owners

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    I know a few A/T drivers, right foot on the gas. Left foot on the brake. Kapag rattle ka na... Wala na.

    Also a few manual transmission drivers na Hindi sanai sa automatic. Sa toyota revo A/T namin, upper half brake means release clutch. The car goes even faster on a downhill. Press Brake harder and you get the car stoppped

    We just need some time to read, learn and understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinworld View Post
    I know a few A/T drivers, right foot on the gas. Left foot on the brake. Kapag rattle ka na... Wala na.

    Also a few manual transmission drivers na Hindi sanai sa automatic. Sa toyota revo A/T namin, upper half brake means release clutch. The car goes even faster on a downhill. Press Brake harder and you get the car stoppped

    We just need some time to read, learn and understand.
    Ha? Left foot on the brakes? Maliban kay OB...

    Sinong gunggong Ang ganun magmaneho? At baka sa 1M drivers Meron Lang isa..

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Ha? Left foot on the brakes? Maliban kay OB...

    Sinong gunggong Ang ganun magmaneho? At baka sa 1M drivers Meron Lang isa..
    I drive AT cars with my left foot on the brakes, whats wrong with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Ha? Left foot on the brakes? Maliban kay OB...

    Sinong gunggong Ang ganun magmaneho? At baka sa 1M drivers Meron Lang isa..
    I drive AT cars with my left foot on the brakes, whats wrong with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceblueyes View Post
    I drive AT cars with my left foot on the brakes, whats wrong with that

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    I drive AT cars with my left foot on the brakes, whats wrong with that
    errr... is that the complete story, or is there something else that you are not including in your narration, sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceblueyes View Post
    I drive AT cars with my left foot on the brakes, whats wrong with that

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    I drive AT cars with my left foot on the brakes, whats wrong with that
    What's wrong with that? You always drive like that?

    Sino naman gunggong nagturo Sayo na tama yun?

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    And sino naman nagsabi sayo na mali yun?

    We are talking about AT cars aren't we?

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    And sino naman nagsabi sayo na mali yun?

    We are talking about AT cars aren't we?

    *Dr. d
    I was simply stating that I drive auto trans. cars with my right foot on the gas and my left foot on the brakes in reply to glenn saying thats "gunggong". I also asked whats wrong with that. I don't see where the confusion is

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    What's wrong with that? You always drive like that?

    Sino naman gunggong nagturo Sayo na tama yun?

    Bro meron talagang driving technique na left foot breaking. Hindi ito uncommon sa mga race car drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceblueyes View Post
    I drive AT cars with my left foot on the brakes, whats wrong with that

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    I drive AT cars with my left foot on the brakes, whats wrong with that
    driving with left foot on the brake is a very rare case. but i believe on this because our CEO is driving his car with left foot on the brake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Ha? Left foot on the brakes? Maliban kay OB...

    Sinong gunggong Ang ganun magmaneho? At baka sa 1M drivers Meron Lang isa..
    Sir nasa kevinworld ka... parang Tom's World lang...

    Dba pag nagdrive yung mga nasa arcade nakatapak pareho ang paa kadalasan.

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    The TGP post and other investigation already nullified the SUA myth. Kung yun thourough na ang testing pero hindi pa din maniwala yung iba, then whatever we say here will not change their mind.

    La ka naman talaga mapapala sa mga fanbois.

    But one thing I know is yung puwede mo ishift to D ang AT without stepping on the brakes opened up chances for accidents. But lahat naman siguro tao dito tinuruan na always step on the brakes diba. Kaya wala dito naSUA eh. So unintended pa ba or nataranta lang? Hahaha

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